Saturn Isn't What You Think It Is Either David Icke

a reply to: Wolfenz

Thanx for the PDF. Downloaded it to read later!
Yes Jordan opened My eyes to some things I did not know.
Interesting World in which We live eh?
Thanx again. Syx

originally posted by: crowdedskies

originally posted by: SyxPak

Just my thoughts here but I don't think David fabricated anything.
Check out this video from Jordan Maxwell. About Saturnisms...

Thanks for making the point. However, the video of Jordan Maxwell (even if made years before David Icke's) , has the same wild assumptions and distortions. I do not believe in a Saturn-based occult system. Both of them are off course , in my opinion

Researchers must stop making assumptions and judgements about what occultists do and don't do. They should first join the ranks of occultists ( a lifetime dedication). Then they will stop coming up with the wild and speculative nonsense.

You make a good point, though a little harsh, but maybe justified.

People too much try to judge esoteric things through a distorted exoteric lens. Distortions come from superficial judgment of things not understood.

People don’t enough have experience themselves or search out what’s more vital that any dogma, one way or the other, and that is understanding.

To understand something is intuitive knowledge that’s can’t be labeled. It can only be experienced

a reply to: DigitalVigilante420

It's kind of funny that some of the worlds greatest minds as we perceive them were into using Lysergic dythalymide

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight

You may believe whatever you like. As to the occult - you speak for all occultist's? You are just as guilty as the "researchers" you dismiss.

I speak for myself only and I see the Saturn theory as a delusion at best , if not a fabrication. No doubt , some will agree with me and some won't.

This is a forum and I am merely stating my personal view. I am not speaking on behalf of any group .

Rersearchers and journalists particularly irritate me. I once had a friend who was a TV journalist . It was extraordinary that the thing that caught his attention most were the things that he did not have a clue about and would never be able to comprehend. These are the situations that he would be keen to cover. At the end of it , he would be as clueless as he was at the beginning. Similarly with so called "occult researchers"; they never really dip their feet into the water. Instead they create all sorts of theories that they present as fact.

The only occult researcher that I respect was the late Colin Wilson. He would just present the facts as they are and let you decide.

originally posted by: Willtell

You make a good point, though a little harsh, but maybe justified.

People too much try to judge esoteric things through a distorted exoteric lens. Distortions come from superficial judgment of things not understood.

People don’t enough have experience themselves or search out what’s more vital that any dogma, one way or the other, and that is understanding.

To understand something is intuitive knowledge that’s can’t be labeled. It can only be experienced

I did not mean to be harsh and wish I could have presented my argument in a more gentle manner.

You are totally right, in my view, about intuitive knowledge having to be experienced in order to be understood. Hence the best proof that magic works is when you get to that level where you know what can be done.

originally posted by: crowdedskies

originally posted by: Willtell

You make a good point, though a little harsh, but maybe justified.

People too much try to judge esoteric things through a distorted exoteric lens. Distortions come from superficial judgment of things not understood.

People don’t enough have experience themselves or search out what’s more vital that any dogma, one way or the other, and that is understanding.

To understand something is intuitive knowledge that’s can’t be labeled. It can only be experienced

I did not mean to be harsh and wish I could have presented my argument in a more gentle manner.

You are totally right, in my view, about intuitive knowledge having to be experienced in order to be understood. Hence the best proof that magic works is when you get to that level where you know what can be done.

I said your harshness may be justified. It wasn’t a criticism of you at all.

People too easy jump on bandwagons without really knowing much about something

Your comment, imo, was apropos

Well, David is a member here, maybe he will chime in.

(despite the nasty comments)

The Perception Deception covers this video. I had read the first 100 pages and started again, mind blown!

The reason I didn't continue reading was because alot of it I already know, understand. So it is kind of like preaching to the choir.

But you can really see the focus they have on creating so much unrest, reactions, anger, discord, because we're feeding the beast that way.

It's making me commit to finding ways to bring happiness into the lives of those around me, overcoming the constant waiting, scarsity, bring joy and higher frequency activities and encourage crafts, activities, that lead to expanding our world, and promoting this, nudging this in others, along with people waking up to the beast system and forging their own dreams and visions for a better world forward.

I finally got around to watching this and really getting into it. Something struck a correlation with a current issue regarding the political race.

Remember a few days ago when Trump got annihilated for using the "Star of David" in an anti-Hilary piece?

Correlate that with the section in this video about the 6 sided star. David connects it to a LOT of powerful entities including the Rothschild family.

Maybe Trump ISN'T one of THEM? And I don't just mean the Rothschild but maybe some other string pullers. Maybe he can't use that symbolism? Or maybe he pissed off someone REALLY high up the chain? Or broke some type of rule?

It's reasonable to assume there is a much different and much more secretive set of rules for those with a massive audience.