EU Referendum Vote - Watch it live here

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: YarlanZey

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: SprocketUK
Gibraltar -remain

Bit of a obvious one really.

Yes apparently they depend on UK for their high quality standard of living

It's more to do with what Spain would do to the border if the UK leaves.

well that's what the news lady said anyway

a reply to: ipsedixit

Makes you wonder.

a reply to: Fingle

I know what you are saying is true however.....

I honestly believe that if we vote leave we will leave, it will take years but I think if we vote out we are out unless there is some kind of monumental change in EU politics.

I actually think that what will happen if we leave will be that we will spend 3 or 4 years negotiating our leaving the EU, because the economic uncertainty that will cause our economy will suffer and public opinion will shift to a overwhelming "remain". As such we will try to reverse it and the rest of the EU will show us the figure

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: SprocketUK
Gibraltar -remain

Bit of a obvious one really.

sigh.... 381 to go.

I wonder what Cameron and Farage are up to right now?

Is this vote first past the post? 50% plus 1.

originally posted by: ipsedixit
a reply to: Raven95

Gibraltar voted 19,000 plus to remain vs 800 plus to exit.

lost feed - Is that an actual result or just another estimate? Ah back now 823 to leave and 19,322 remain

Sounds like farage making excuses already..... oh dear.

originally posted by: YarlanZey

originally posted by: Fingle



Erm.....Bread and Circus again????? Remain was always the outcome?

Article 50 would make Britain's EU membership a legal matter. However, even if tonight June 23 referendum produces a Leave majority, the government would not be obliged to invoke the legislation.


A vote for Brexit will not be determinative of whether the UK will leave the EU.

That potential outcome comes down to the political decisions which then follow before the Article 50 notification. The policy of the government (if not of all of its ministers) is to remain in the EU. The UK government may thereby seek to put off the Article 50 notification, regardless of political pressure and conventional wisdom.

Could be very interesting if leave wins big matter of small print left out of truth?

But then it would be a matter for a very biased parliment to decide !!!!

uk.businessinsider.com...

I dont know how many people are aware of this. That even if Brexit was to win we could still remain.

Then I'd expect to see a large riot police turnout.

The fix was in as expected

What a fraud.

originally posted by: Fingle



Erm.....Bread and Circus again????? Remain was always the outcome?

Article 50 would make Britain's EU membership a legal matter. However, even if tonight June 23 referendum produces a Leave majority, the government would not be obliged to invoke the legislation.


A vote for Brexit will not be determinative of whether the UK will leave the EU.

That potential outcome comes down to the political decisions which then follow before the Article 50 notification. The policy of the government (if not of all of its ministers) is to remain in the EU. The UK government may thereby seek to put off the Article 50 notification, regardless of political pressure and conventional wisdom.

Could be very interesting if leave wins big matter of small print left out of truth?

But then it would be a matter for a very biased parliment to decide !!!!

uk.businessinsider.com...

Any party under the umbrella of a leave majority, if Britain were to vote leave, would win the next election by simple votes. No party could ignore the British public on such a divisive agenda.

Any government that was in power during a vote to leave, would have to hold an election if their position was to stay but the people voted leave. They could not hold power.

I fully expect us to stay, but...

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

No doubt a rig vote.

a reply to: intrepid

Is this vote first past the post? 50% plus 1.

Nope.....Running tally....Leave can win by 1 vote

originally posted by: Raven95
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

No doubt a rig vote.

Honestly i am very open minded but also highly critical.

If you show me actual proof of a rigged vote I will look at it and take it seriously.

If however all you have is superstition, speculation and circumstance then sorry you not going to win a "it was rigged" debate with me.

So yeah by all means i do not put it past them to rig the vote however without proof there is no reason for me to believe that anything has been rigged at this point.

Hmm Newcastle is projected to have a narrow win for Remain. They had predicted Newcastle to be 60%/40% for Remain so if it's close it could indicate that Leave have a larger turnout than 1st thought.
Interesting.

Newcastle is expected to declare for remaining by a narrow margin and this is giving the remain side pause because polls were indicating the Newcastle result should be a 2/3rds majority for remain.

The overall results might be very close based on this thinking.

a reply to: ipsedixit

Newcastle goes to leave?

a reply to: Raven95

No Remain by the sounds of things but they were expected to be 60/40 for remain.

I reckon it'll be 3 am before we have a decent idea.

originally posted by: mclarenmp4
a reply to: Raven95

No Remain by the sounds of things but they were expected to be 60/40 for remain.

It if is 60/40, then its not going to be a close vote.

Close vote would be like the Scottish independence vote, 48/52.....

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

The fix is in as expected.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

That's just Newcastle who were expected to be Pro EU. If it's as close as they are making out then it could indicate that the leave campaign might have more traction than 1st thought.