Landlord of California church whose pastor celebrated Orlando massacre will not renew church's leas

a reply to: seasonal

Uh, Jesus might surprise you on this one. In Leviticus it says that "any man who lays with another man as he would a woman, is an abomination to the Lord and should be killed" it actually says that God commands Homosexuals to be put to death. FACT. Fyi an abomination is the WORST thing you can do according to the Bible and gets you a one way ticket straight to eternal damnation. I should also mention that Burning incense, eating pork, eating any kind of seafood other than fish, doing any kind of work or business on a Sunday and women wearing pants are all abominations to the Lord so yeah I'm not a Christian. P.s. I find it very interesting that Christians are so hard core anti abortion, because God in the Old Testament orders a $#%& ton of women to have there unborn children literally cut and ripped from there wombs. Don't believe me? Better get to reading the good book. Don't get me wrong, I do take to heart quite a few of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth but at it's very core Christianity like Islam advocates hatred and violence. It's sad but true.

a reply to: research100

I, as a Christian, whole-heartedly agree with the land lord.

Providing a platform for hate instead of love is antithetical to our cause.

Then again, I don't go to church much for the very reason that the very few people I am able to agree with are either the sole pastor or elder that is any good.

Sorry to make that public, but it's true.

I have told many witches and warlocks that they are better Christians than the people I know, if they would just realize that fact and get away from the seduction which they suffer.

I know that the Lord said that I shouldn't have fellowship with darkness, but that is exactly the reason I avoid churches these days. Someone who claims to worship Satan or to worship Earth is jaded, not necessarily always dark.

Same with my atheist friends.

What a confounding world in which we live.

a reply to: TrueBrit

he did not read any book "wrong", he simply just took certain doctrines, while leaving the more peaceful tolerant ones to wayside, doctrines that are found within the TEXT.

Romans 1:26-32 26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

we must be able to be critical of idea's, if we cannot then we should accept that causalities of those bad idea's, I know in my heart you are smart enough to understand.

and obviously I make no friends being critical of religion, but I think its the most honest path, considering how many have died in the name of.

originally posted by: 191stMIDET
a reply to: seasonal

Uh, Jesus might surprise you on this one. In Leviticus it says that "any man who lays with another man as he would a woman, is an abomination to the Lord and should be killed" it actually says that God commands Homosexuals to be put to death. FACT. Fyi an abomination is the WORST thing you can do according to the Bible and gets you a one way ticket straight to eternal damnation. I should also mention that Burning incense, eating pork, eating any kind of seafood other than fish, doing any kind of work or business on a Sunday and women wearing pants are all abominations to the Lord so yeah I'm not a Christian. P.s. I find it very interesting that Christians are so hard core anti abortion, because God in the Old Testament orders a $#%& ton of women to have there unborn children literally cut and ripped from there wombs. Don't believe me? Better get to reading the good book. Don't get me wrong, I do take to heart quite a few of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth but at it's very core Christianity like Islam advocates hatred and violence. It's sad but true.

You don't seem to be much of a scholar, neither a child that understands the times.

You need to read the whole in context, firstly. What will not exist in Heaven was not allowed in Israel. But God gave His Son so that any who believes in Him will not perish. All things are clean, except that which is sin unto one's self, save the affliction of others. And even then the saints have the power to request God's forgiveness for the guilty.

The Old Testament laws for Israel reflect what shall be in Heaven.

It is written that God said that He would have Israel as a hen over her chicks, but they wouldn't have it.

There was favor for a nation, but Jesus made it so that there is a favor for all people because the Promise was diluted and forgotten in blood, but was remembered in the heart of those who had love for their fellow man and did not worship the work of their own hands.

Now today, we do not judge the world, but we receive it. God so loved the world, and so shall we, but not above Him.

Homosexuals in the world we do not condemn, and none do we condemn. Homosexuals in the church, so to speak, would be treated as they wish to be treated, as long as their idea wasn't too join the church for the very reason to seek a mate.

I think Jesus cares about every heart, and I can be judged for worse things in my opinion than a gay person with that alone as their issue could be.

ETA : I know that we must be in the world and not of it. Remember though that we are to be a beacon of light, not disaster, to those who seek refuge. Those who fell lying to the Holy Spirit sought not refuge, but profit.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: TechniXcality

Seriously.

Put the Old Testament aside

Everything he just cited was New Testament scripture.

I wonder what's going on with the mosque that hosted the imam who preached for the killing of gays and who the Democrat Muslim attended before her killed 49 gay people? Are any of the clearly outraged people in this thread, but who typically apologize for Islam at all interested in this?

a reply to: DeadFoot

True, but remember the same text in context, that those who choose not to acknowledge God were punished. Be careful not to remove even one line or phrase from the context of His Word, for you may miss the entire meaning, and like a child you may not acknowledge all the parent said, only hearing either negative or positive for the purpose of one's own justification.

originally posted by: TheBulk
I wonder what's going on with the mosque that hosted the imam who preached for the killing of gays and who the Democrat Muslim attended before her killed 49 gay people? Are any of the clearly outraged people in this thread, but who typically apologize for Islam at all interested in this?

I had never heard of either of those things. But those people deserve a hot spot in Hell, if only it were real.

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: DeadFoot

True, but remember the same text in context, that those who choose not to acknowledge God were punished. Be careful not to remove even one line or phrase from the context of His Word, for you may miss the entire meaning, and like a child you may not acknowledge all the parent said, only hearing either negative or positive for the purpose of one's own justification.

The passage he just cited has no difference in context, really; as long as we are aware that it is not Jesus saying these things.

I'm not sure what your point is.

I laugh at these posts, it's all a bunch of people doing what they say is wrong

you guys do realize you are judging the preacher?
you guys do realize that you are judging the landlord?


Weighing the judgments between the two on how you want to live your life.

judgment is good

people just don't like it when people judge their actions negatively. that's when the wine of "don't judge" comes into play

originally posted by: DeadFoot

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: DeadFoot

True, but remember the same text in context, that those who choose not to acknowledge God were punished. Be careful not to remove even one line or phrase from the context of His Word, for you may miss the entire meaning, and like a child you may not acknowledge all the parent said, only hearing either negative or positive for the purpose of one's own justification.

The passage he just cited has no difference in context, really; as long as we are aware that it is not Jesus saying these things.

I'm not sure what your point is.

The whole of the Bible is predicated on the idea that Jesus is the Word and represents all of God's Word, regardless of whether it came from His fleshly lips or not. If you need a direct statement to support His followers, read and find that He told His disciples they would do greater works than He.

This would imply that even their very words would be considered at least on par.

Notwithstanding the fact that He also said that it is enough for the servant to be equal with his master.

originally posted by: TarzanBeta

The whole of the Bible is predicated on the idea that Jesus is the Word and represents all of God's Word, regardless of whether it came from His fleshly lips or not. If you need a direct statement to support His followers, read and find that He told His disciples they would do greater works than He.

This would imply that even their very words would be considered at least on par.

Not really.

Many things that the apostles said after his death were the direct inverse of what Jesus taught.

He did not imply that they would do no wrong or make no mistakes.

originally posted by: TheBulk
I wonder what's going on with the mosque that hosted the imam who preached for the killing of gays and who the Democrat Muslim attended before her killed 49 gay people? Are any of the clearly outraged people in this thread, but who typically apologize for Islam at all interested in this?

I am outraged, yes what is happening with that mosque..I haven't seen anything...I have never apologized for Islam

a reply to: TheBulk

When is that mosques lease up for renewal?

Hopefully they get the same treatment.

a reply to: Sremmos80

lol right

a reply to: research100

it's up to the landord to renew a lease or not. I agree with the landlord. I wouldn't have renewed it either.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: research100

Rock and Roll, you speak out in such a way natural consequences will ensue, and while we are at it we should make all the churches pay taxes and stop the evil tithing scams seen on T.V that destroy already downtrodden peoples lives. Ok Ok I know i'm in a fantasy world but if I had it my way

I think some, but there are many non profit churches that have food pantries, clothe the poor, connect the poor and homeless with the proper county offices- There are a lot of churches/religious organizations who should have their tax exempt status revoked, though.

originally posted by: 191stMIDET
a reply to: seasonal

Uh, Jesus might surprise you on this one. In Leviticus it says that "any man who lays with another man as he would a woman, is an abomination to the Lord and should be killed" it actually says that God commands Homosexuals to be put to death.

Yes, this is true. But the same God destroyed Soddom and Gomorrah for the very same abominations, and even turned Lot's wife into a pillar of salt for just looking back at the city being destroyed. And God did all this by himself, without any man to help him "put to death" the sinners.

They were "put to death". So, the scriptures are true. You just need to understand "who"' puts them to death.

Any God that can turn a person into a "pillar of salt" for just turning their head, doesn't need man's assistance to punish the sinners.

The law written in the book is a warning for the believers, to tell them how to conduct their own lives, lest they be "put to death." It's not an instruction for any Christian to go out and do God's job for him. The Christian God is quite capable of judging and punishing all by himself. He has many ways, and chooses the time and the place.