Trump's charity claims could violate fraud laws

Trump's charity claims could violate fraud laws

Hey this looks like fun. So this Presidential election may be marked by a race to see who can be federally indicted first. Hillary for emails or Trump for deceptive business fraud (I guess he isn't as great of a business man as he likes to yell he is).

If Donald Trump’s claims that certain of his commercial ventures benefit charity are untrue, he could be held liable under Section 349 of New York’s General Business Law, which forbids deceptive business acts and practices, as well as under charitable solicitation laws, according to legal experts.

In promoting products as varied as Trump University, Trump Vodka, a Trump board game, and his new book “Crippled America,” the businessman has declared that the proceeds would go to charity. None of Trump’s proceeds from Trump University have gone to charity, and only a few hundred dollars of charitable giving related to Trump Vodka has been accounted for. News organizations have been unable to verify his other claims, and his representatives have been unwilling to provide more information about them or even to confirm them.

Referring to Trump’s claims about his “Crippled America” book profits, a spokesman for Scheiderman’s office said that the law against deceptive business practices was a more likely avenue of pursuit than the charitable solicitation law. But he added that lawyers at the attorney general’s office had not yet decided whether to look into the matter.

So far, Trump has made somewhere from $1 million to $5 million in royalties on the book, according to a personal financial disclosure filed last month with the FEC, but Hicks did not respond to repeated questions about whether any of the proceeds went to charity and no donation has been publicized.

So there you go. Choose your criminal and next President. Hillary "I want to keep my state secrets personal" Clinton or Donald "I abuse people in need for my own profit" Trump.

Yah, its difficult to indict Trump as a politician, he's never been one before. As far as crooked, he's a businessman from New York, how crooked does one have to be to get things done there?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

There is a YUGE difference between what you have described and Hilary's PERSONAL email server. One is a charity that is run by a director who is not Trump and may have run afoul of some obscure laws. The other is cut and dried personal incompetence by Hilary. I am not sure what planet you live on, but it ain't the same one as me.

Pending Federal Criminal Investigation & over 30 Pending FOIA Lawsuits: Hillary Clinton

Civil cases involving possible fraud courses and charity donations: Donald Trump




One is clearly more a threat to American Citizens and US laws than the other. Not even close.

a reply to: Metallicus

One is a charity that is run by a director who is not Trump and may have run afoul of some obscure laws.

A director chosen by Trump. If he can't hire an underling who is neither incompetent nor a crook, what do you think his cabinet is going to look like?

a reply to: LifeMode

Civil cases involving possible fraud courses and charity donations: Donald Trump

Abuses that are smoothed over with cash settlements. Trump buys forgiveness with bribes. If he becomes President, he will not feel the need to respond to the law at all.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

"I abuse people in need for my own profit"

Need to add that to the Clintons. Except a thousand fold .Know how much bribe money they have accepted from ME countries who abuse women , LGBT , Christians.

If you are going to put the truth out there , open it up for all truth.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Krazysh0t

There is a YUGE difference between what you have described and Hilary's PERSONAL email server. One is a charity that is run by a director who is not Trump and may have run afoul of some obscure laws. The other is cut and dried personal incompetence by Hilary. I am not sure what planet you live on, but it ain't the same one as me.

So because there is a difference between the severity of the illegal activities that makes it ok for Trump to have broken the law? Is that the logic you are presenting?

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Krazysh0t

"I abuse people in need for my own profit"

Need to add that to the Clintons. Except a thousand fold .Know how much bribe money they have accepted from ME countries who abuse women , LGBT , Christians.

Do you? How about naming sources? Don't be vague either. This is your chance to shine.

If you are going to put the truth out there , open it up for all truth.

Well are you going to "truth" it out for us? You made insinuations but no substance.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Race to the White House or Race to the Prison Cell? Actually I doubt either of them will indicted for anything whether or not they deserve it... but wow did America fck up this election cycle or what!

The book is the only one of those products/services that made any substantial money, I think.
I'm sure that he'll find a way to worm out of this. He'll probably claim that eventually, a portion of the books profit will go to charity and that they have been waiting for the money to stop rolling in from the book, then donate a portion of the profit.

Either way, if you say proceeds go to charity to sell more products, you better follow through.

a reply to: intrptr

50 Degrees of Bent.

a reply to: Kali74

I have to agree. Criminal charges won't be pursued against either of them.

Just saw that Trump has fired his,campaign manager. The organisation is falling apart.
Multiple sources saying this per MSNBC and NYT

There are no words...

As the Trump world turns...
Corey Lewandowski out as Trump campaign manager
According to CNN.

So because there is a difference between the severity of the illegal activities that makes it ok for Trump to have broken the law? Is that the logic you are presenting?

No, just makes him more palatable than the alternative.

Do you? How about naming sources? Don't be vague either. This is your chance to shine.

You mean like the Washington Post:
www.washingtonpost.com... 8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html

Bloomberg:
www.bloomberg.com...

Politifact:
www.politifact.com...

Wall Street Journal:
www.wsj.com...

Or even other ATS threads with more:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I mean surely, this can't be the first time you're hearing about this?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Kali74

I have to agree. Criminal charges won't be pursued against either of them.

Why not? Bill Clinton was disbarred for 5 years from practicing law for lying and also had to pay fines and he was the President.

Criminal charges could totally be pursued. The Government is extremely compartmentalized. NOBODY has all the power. If the FBI recommends indictment with a strong case and Lynch says no, she could also be indicted. Obama does not have much say in the matter other than granting pardons. Lynch also donated money to Hillary so she will likely have to recuse herself anyway. That is a severe ethics issue of giving personal money to someone who you are suppose to be looking at objectively.

a reply to: LifeMode
You're right. It's a possibility in a sane and just world. If this where a movie or a novel, both Hillary and the Donald would be arrested at the end of the story. However we live in reality where these things never seem to work out as simply as we'd like them to.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Race to the White House or Race to the Prison Cell? Actually I doubt either of them will indicted for anything whether or not they deserve it... but wow did America fck up this election cycle or what!

The above quoted for truth.

The Clinton Foundation is completely corrupt. I dont think Donald has much to worry about on that front. Funny how the media portrays little things for Trump being so heinous, yet Killery gets a free pass on decades of wrong doings.