Stargate SG-1 End Credit's; U.S. Space Command

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: Nyiah
If you think the show's a conspiracy, stay the hell away from the good fan-fics. There's some that are written so well with such a high degree of military accuracy that it makes the show's military advisors look amateurish. Total conspiracy for those going full retard.

Oh and the denial without making any real argument begins.

"It's not because I said so"

"Nuh uh, I'm right and your wrong"

Hey, why not. What's good for you is good for me, too. Burden of proof is on you to begin with, pony up & shut us up.

originally posted by: onequestion
Where are you getting your information?

The CIA isn't after power.

They are after whatever they keep discovering in their black projects like Blue Book, MK Ultra, Stargate and on and on and on.

Which are all forms of power.

Bluebook was dual purpose, on one hand national security to discover what was in the skies of importance, on the other propaganda to reassure the public.

MK Ultra is a way to conduct assassinations or to wage a covert war.

Stargate, was a remote viewing project as another means to gain information. Worth mentioning, Stargate was an Army project until it was handed to the CIA in 1995 where it was promptly dismissed.

a reply to: Aazadan

First off, you sound so sure of your assumptions(theories), how can you be so sure of your knowledge?

Are you CIA?

on the other propaganda to reassure the public.

Assuming that the CIA is involved in propaganda what's to say that Stargate isn't some form of propaganda?

Stargate, was a remote viewing project as another means to gain information.

Were you involved in Stargate?

Also do you really think it's a coincidence that it was allegedly shut down in 1995 and the Tv Show began in 1997?

Also what information were they trying to gain and did it work?

originally posted by: onequestion
First off, you sound so sure of your assumptions(theories), how can you be so sure of your knowledge?

Are you CIA?

I'm not, but would it matter to you if I was? If I'm not you can say I'm ignorant on the subject, and if I am you can say I'm trying to spread disinformation.

As for how I can be so sure, I'm not but it's a reasonable conclusion based on known information.

Assuming that the CIA is involved in propaganda what's to say that Stargate isn't some form of propaganda?

It very well could be, it wouldn't be the first time we invented something super natural in order to make our enemies think we had some unbeatable technology. Going down this line of reasoning though, aren't you invalidating your original premise that Stargate was a real project designed to get alien technology or anything else the show dealt with?

Were you involved in Stargate?

Also do you really think it's a coincidence that it was allegedly shut down in 1995 and the Tv Show began in 1997?

Also what information were they trying to gain and did it work?

I think it is a coincidence, the show and the program had nothing to do with each other, they were completely separate goals. The goal of SG1 was to ally with alien races and recover technology the US could use for national/planetary defense. The goal of the actual program was remote viewing, it had nothing to do with travel or technology. If it worked or not is another matter. Ed Dames claims it did but the Army and CIA claim it didn't. Neither is entirely credible here so I'm inclined to go with thinking it had limited results but that it could have easily been anywhere from a colossal failure to a runaway success.

a reply to: Aazadan

I'm not, but would it matter to you if I was? If I'm not you can say I'm ignorant on the subject, and if I am you can say I'm trying to spread disinformation.

I'm not claiming your ignorant I'm pointing out that you sound very sure on something that seems to be more of a theory.

Going down this line of reasoning though, aren't you invalidating your original premise that Stargate was a real project designed to get alien technology or anything else the show dealt with?

My theory is that the Stargate program is a metaphor for something else.

Interesting how in the plotline of the series they use to the Stargate to go to different worlds isn't it?

In remote viewing is it possible they were able to see into different worlds inhabit by other intelligent life forms? Or that other plots within the show were were metaphors or realities?

I'm theorizing potentials I'm not wholly convinced of anything. I just think there's something in the Middle East that everyone wants besides oil and minerals.

I think it is a coincidence

It's to similar of a coincidence with eery timing. I don't believe in coincidence.

Ingo Swan may have different views on the remote viewing program and I believe 100% that remote viewing exist, the astral world is real, now what it is and how it functions is a different story altogether.

a reply to: onequestion

That the military would advise a show like this isn’t really surprising at all. As probably already mentioned, there might be two reasons: 1) for accuracy and to portray agencies in a non-offensive way, and 2) to ensure that any content does not, inadvertently or otherwise, expose classified material.

They’re looking for the Holy Grail because it has an unknown hieroglyph on it. Except it’s not in the Middle East, it’s in Utah. Okay, I’m kidding about Utah although Joseph Smith may well have known something about it, and supposedly the “gold plates” he found did indeed have to be translated from Ancient Egyptian. I’d speculate that a long time ago, as in 500 years or so, a ship was captured on the high seas by Welsh bandits which held considerable treasures - and the pirates eventually met their fate with Davy Jones, treasure and all. So the “goldern goblet” is now somewhere at the bottom of a deep ocean. It could be that said pirate was Davy Jones, and hence the legend of Davy Jones’ Locker - which may well contain the Holy Grail. As crazy as this may seem, one need only to look into the Latter Day Saints to see that they certainly have a very keen interest in bloodlines, gold, Egypt and Christ, so go figure.

This doesn’t seem particularly relevant to SG1 on the one hand, but given the links to Ancient Egypt then one is certainly entitled to wonder about it all.

a reply to: IllegalName

It's not the military it's space command specifically and it's the only show they have ever advised according to their IMDB profile.

Yet we know there's been a plethora of space movies and tv shows.

originally posted by: onequestion
In remote viewing is it possible they were able to see into different worlds inhabit by other intelligent life forms? Or that other plots within the show were were metaphors or realities?

I'm theorizing potentials I'm not wholly convinced of anything. I just think there's something in the Middle East that everyone wants besides oil and minerals.

The big mineral in the show that they were after was Naquadah which ended up doing everything and powering anything. Basically it was a super charged Uranium without the radiation. Not all that different from element 115 in the real world.

What people are after in the Middle East is oil, minerals, and riches. Don't underestimate the value of oil, infact this is why I don't think a replacement for oil has been invented and hidden away. Whoever had such an invention would completely upend the worlds geopolitical structure and become the most powerful nation on the planet. Imagine being the provider of fuel to the world, that's A LOT of leverage, and even if you didn't export it... would completely free your nation from the oil dealers.

It's to similar of a coincidence with eery timing. I don't believe in coincidence.

What timing? Books with Stargate in the title had been coming out for decades and other than both being sci fi concepts the movie/tv series and the actual program shared nothing in common.

I am trying figure out what the theory is here? The military who is happy to provide advisers and even access to bases, ships, aircraft etc. to movies or TV shows that show them in a positive light because it is a good recruiting tool. The down side is to get such support the military makes certain demands. For example anything that resembles a real classified program or a conspiracy or controversial idea that a movie or show may have as part of its story would have to be removed because the military does not want to appear to endorse of give credence to such ideas.

Take the case of Area 51. The military was a big fan and wanted to support the film Independence Day however they insisted that their could not be ties between Area 51 and a crashed space ship from Roswell. The producers would not change that part of the story line so the military pulled its support. When SG1 decided to use Area 51 they agreed to put into its story line than Area 51 never had anything to with Aliens until it was used by the Stargate program.

So the one thing you can be sure of is, if the military is involved anything that even resembles a real conspiracy will never make it in the film or show, only things coming out of complete fiction which in no way shape or form could appear to tie the military to anything even slightly real will be allowed.

a reply to: onequestion

I can't link the PDF from my phone but look up DoD Instruction 5410.16. It gives the criteria for allowing military advisors to film and television. Just because a movie involves supposed military personnel doesn't mean they get an advisor. They're very strict as to what gets their help and what doesn't.

a reply to: MrSpad

Speculate;

What about Stargate could have resembled a real space program that needed scrubbing?

a reply to: Aazadan

What people are after in the Middle East is oil, minerals, and riches.

Again speaking in such absolutes.... how do you know?

What timing? Books with Stargate in the title had been coming out for decades and other than both being sci fi concepts the movie/tv series and the actual program shared nothing in common.

Oh I don't know... in 1995 the CIA allegedly ends a program called Stargate which is a remote viewing program possibly used to view other worlds?

In the TV series they use the Stargat to visit other worlds and it just so happened the show was create 2 years later.

That's impeccable timing and plotline similarity.

a reply to: onequestion

And the movie that the show is based on was released in 1994.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Oh perfect. Even better.

I'll demonstrate the numerology.

You use chaldean numerology, you can look it up online.

Stargate is 3+4+1+2+3+1+4+5 = 23

S is a 3 and G is a 3

So SG is 33 for the 33 degrees of masonry.

33 + 23 = 56

now add the 1

for 57

For those of you who have yet to figure it out, the secret setting of the compass is 57.

The freemason square (90 degrees) minus 33 degrees is 57 degrees.

But here we're using 33 and 57 to come up with 90.

Lateral thinking is a requirement of the freemasoncraft I believe. In other words, pictures mean the
same as numbers and ideas. So like I said, they hid the symbols in the name.

Here's the kicker, its also in the bible, technically jews should know, since they put it there,
but as I have found in my research, you gotta be pretty high on that totem pole to learn it.
I hacked it out per some other related research.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: MrSpad

Speculate;

What about Stargate could have resembled a real space program that needed scrubbing?

Nothing which is why outside of the Area 51 alien ship crash reference the producers never had to change anything. So long as Stargate remained a complete work of fiction the and portrayed the AF in positive light the AF was happy to support it.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: intrptr

As a matter of fact yes I do.

I know, I just can't believe you actually said that. The portal to forever is through your soul, man. Probably haven't ID'd that terrain yet.

Who is Double Secret Productions and why is this the only project they have ever worked on?

Could it be that they were a front company?

Could the CIA have been involved?

a reply to: MrSpad

How do you know that?

Is that speculation or were you involved on the project?

a reply to: onequestion

Because they were the company that Jonathan Glassner and Brad Wright formed for Stargate. They created the show and started a company to produce it.