2016 HO3 Body Found in April Orbits Earth

a reply to: SeaWorthy
You are now sourcing CNN (you forgot to post the link). Do not expect CNN to get the science right.

It does not circle Earth. It is not in an Earth orbit. Its orbit crosses that of Earth.
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...

a reply to: SeaWorthy

You keep saying it orbits the earth.
It isnt affected by our gravity so it is said to circle in a way that LOOKS like an orbit.
Two different words for a reason.

The gravity of the sun is what gives it an orbit.

B

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SeaWorthy

Try this for a better idea of what the orbit actually looks like.
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...

Hit the >> button to animate it.
Use the scroll bars to change the orientation and zoom.

Even stranger than an actual noticeable orbit, they only just found it and it was lol there for the last 100 years!

Not sure why that's strange. It's very small and very far away.

I swear to god if I hit the powerball
I'll donate a sizable portion to bringing
Apple operating systems to replace
every last dusty nugget of Microsoft
at NASA JPL.
Heaven forbid someone on an iPad
wanting to see the Solar Orbit
of an Earth chasing asteroid.

a reply to: UnderKingsPeak
iPads don't do Java? That's strange.

originally posted by: Bspiracy
a reply to: SeaWorthy

You keep saying it orbits the earth.
It isnt affected by our gravity so it is said to circle in a way that LOOKS like an orbit.
Two different words for a reason.

The gravity of the sun is what gives it an orbit.

B

I have continually used the words of NASA..why must everyone focus on that so strongly.

"The asteroid's loops around Earth drift a little ahead or behind from year to year, but when they drift too far forward or backward, Earth's gravity is just strong enough to reverse the drift and hold onto the asteroid so that it never wanders farther away

www.sciencespacerobots.com...

Chodas says, "The asteroid's loops around Earth drift a little ahead or behind from year to year, but when they drift too far forward or backward, Earth's gravity is just strong enough to reverse the drift and hold onto the asteroid so that it never wanders farther away than about 100 times the distance of the moon. The same effect also prevents the asteroid from approaching much closer than about 38 times the distance of the moon. In effect, this small asteroid is caught in a little dance with Earth."

Not content with having just one Moon to hang with all the time, our planet has snatched a smaller asteroid into its gravitational pull. Dubbed 2016 HO3, the asteroid is about the size of a building and has an irregular orbit around Earth.

NASA reports that it is currently locked in an irregular orbit around Earth,

www.zmescience.com...

Earth’s gravity is just strong enough to reverse the drift and hold onto the asteroid

www.universetoday.com...

Ah Gravity?

This new asteroid is much more locked onto us.

www.gizmag.com...

I agree with this guy

To: smokingfrog
2016 HO3, as the asteroid is called, is at least 40 meters across and could be larger, up to 100 meters, researchers say, but it’s too far from Earth to qualify as a true satellite or mini-moon.

“Since 2016 HO3 loops around our planet, but never ventures very far away as we both go around the sun, we refer to it as a quasi-satellite of Earth,”

???

So make up your mind! I’ve never heard of the criteria that it has to be X distance to be a “moon”. If it is in a stable orbit around Earth, then it is a moon.

www.freerepublic.com...

Now back to the ship angle...

a reply to: SeaWorthy

I have continually used the words of NASA..why must everyone focus on that so strongly.

Ok.
Where does NASA say the object orbits Earth, again?
Not here:

Asteroid 2016 HO3 has an orbit around the sun that keeps it as a constant companion of Earth.

www.jpl.nasa.gov...

It is a wonder why we have not exploited Lagrangian points more than we have.
Other than SOHO/LASCO and perhaps some Military... they really go unmentioned, even in this thread.
Why have we not taken advantage of the L4 and L5 points, where there is more stability (or have we, if anyone is more familiar).

a reply to: charlyv
SOHO and ACE are in "halo" orbits at L1. Oh, hell. I'll make it easy:
en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: charlyv
SOHO and ACE are in "halo" orbits at L1. Oh, hell. I'll make it easy:
en.wikipedia.org...

Yes and thanks.
It was really part of the premise of my post, as L4 and L5 are stable, where L1 and L2 have problems.

a reply to: charlyv

That's right.
But 4 and 5 are a lot farther away. And, at this point, there doesn't seem to be much reason to go there when L1 seems to be doing what wants to be done.

a reply to: SeaWorthy
Earth's gravity does have influence on that asteroid, true, but it's still not orbiting Earth. All those sources you quoted are non-NASA sources that worded it in their own way.

Phage linked the actual NASA source, and it clearly states that it's not a true satellite of Earth.

The asteroid's apparent "orbit" around the Earth isn't stable either, so it's not a true moon of ours even from that perspective.

Another reporting fail: www.physics-astronomy.com...
"NASA Just Confirmed That Earth Has A New Moon"

I'm really despairing about the standards of science reporting and the drive for sensationalist headlines these days.

originally posted by: wildespace
a reply to: SeaWorthy
Earth's gravity does have influence on that asteroid, true, but it's still not orbiting Earth. All those sources you quoted are non-NASA sources that worded it in their own way.

Phage linked the actual NASA source, and it clearly states that it's not a true satellite of Earth.

The asteroid's apparent "orbit" around the Earth isn't stable either, so it's not a true moon of ours even from that perspective.

AH Yes Phage did indeed use the same source I used in the OP.

"Since 2016 HO3 loops around our planet

www.jpl.nasa.gov...

None of which was ever the point.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

So, what was the point?
That an object with an interesting Solar orbit was recently discovered?

Or....

Maybe it's a spaceship! In which case, wrong forum.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SeaWorthy

So, what was the point?
That an object with an interesting Solar orbit was recently discovered?

Or....

Maybe it's a spaceship! In which case, wrong forum.

I am not the one that moved it, but I doubt you had any interest in such speculation in any case.
I would bet nothing is an oddity in your book and all science is flawless and unquestionable as are the authorities who choose what info to release..

a reply to: Phage

Can you dumb it down for me?

I cant read the facts due to all the stories..

Please?

originally posted by: tikbalang
a reply to: Phage

Can you dumb it down for me?

I cant read the facts due to all the stories..

Please?

I assume you mean posts not stories. My posts are only quotes from the facts and it seems most of the others are too.

Nothing to dumb down if you read the link in the OP. Object has been found circling the sun along with the planet Earth, if also circles the earth but to far away to be called a "moon" by some and not by others.

Funny how NASA "discover" this after all the talk on Nibiru and all those second sun pictures isn't it? Very convenient.

The estimated size of this object is "less than 100 metres". That is very small by astronomical standards, and therefore the object is very faint. It was almost certainly discovered by pure chance, as it is hardly lighting up the solar neighbourhood like a beacon. Anyway, what does this object have to do with Nibiru, or this ridiculous "second Sun" rubbish?

originally posted by: Mogget
The estimated size of this object is "less than 100 metres". That is very small by astronomical standards, and therefore the object is very faint. It was almost certainly discovered by pure chance, as it is hardly lighting up the solar neighbourhood like a beacon. Anyway, what does this object have to do with Nibiru, or this ridiculous "second Sun" rubbish?

No not nibiru but probably a probe they sent out ahead or a ship.

But it gets weirder. Because the orbit is slightly longer than Earth’s, you’d expect it to drift away over many years, lagging behind Earth more and more every year. But that’s not the case! Earth’s gravity tugs on HO3, changing the orbit slightly every time they pass.

Already talk of us sending a probe to take a look.
www.slate.com...

HO3 is moving just a few kilometers per second relative to Earth in some parts of it orbit, making it much easier to send a probe there. Or maybe, someday, humans.