The US is probably safer than where you live

a reply to: myselfaswell

There are lies

There are bold face lies

Then there r statistics.

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These stats brought to u in part by homeland nazis. Now hale oh ba mah n drink some more tap water

originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: Dumbass

Try This

Best I can do mate.

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Myselfaswell

Thanks that was what I'm looking for

Oh, Lordy. Such an abuse of statistics and facts.

For example, Brazil is not a developed country, nor is Mexico, Russia or Chile. So the chart “Homicide Rates for Developed Counties” should show the US as the top dog. Nothing to boast about, in my opinion.

It’s unfortunate that Americans people try to justify their crap record for violent gun crime. People need to take the OP with a big pinch of salt.

Here's some facts - shooting tracker
or
Mass shooting tracker

a reply to: myselfaswell
Sorry but there is an inbuilt bias which distorts the numbers. Please show the TOTAL number of homicides by gun. As soon as you apply a filter to any dataset you can make them show whatever narrative you have. In this case "look the US is not as bad as believed". Well it is when you look at total deaths by gun. Tough deal with it.

I live in Scotland, nobody carries guns, nobody needs guns, we don't have gun shops. Now there is no law against owning a gun you just have to meet certain criteria. The vast majority of people have no need nor desire for a gun. Even our police do not have guns except at airports.

Phone a cop over here and they will come to your house unarmed and without attitude well except the odd a-hole but you get a-holes everywhere in every type of work!

a reply to: myselfaswell
The US is probably safer than where you live

Well, "where I live," we saw the murder of a tv singer, the killing of 50 gays, and a kid eaten by an alligator all in one week. I used to think this city was safe, but damn this week has been ridiculously tragic.

They have fudged the statistics to make it look better for the U.S.

For example, the only mass death caused by guns in England are 1 incident where a farmer lost the plot and went shooting up his town. They say that 1 mass shooting is less than the U.S's 25 shootings.

But the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany’s and five times the U.K.’s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher.

There is no logic there. There was 1 mass shooting in England compared to 25 in the U.S but the frequency of attacks is higher in England? Where's the logic in that.

a reply to: yorkshirelad

You know that during that time, there was 0 mass killings in Scotland. 0 as in none.
We did have 1 in our past but that was 20 years ago and was shocking for us at that time.
That's why we see America as the wild west, it's a foreign culture to us here.

all these stats and charts are a load of cods- wallop and will not saves lives.the more weapons out there,the ease to buy firearms the more these shootings will go on .if people in the usa are so clever with guns how come the killers are not taken out in the first five minuets then,fat lot of good saying you need guns for defence and the like if you dont shoot back,i was in the british army for 9 years and i couldnt just go and get a weapon from the armoury because some-one pissed me off.more control of guns and less guns out there is the only way forward.if you cant have less guns in the usa then you might have the brains to buy some bullet proof vests or find another way to save life.

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a reply to: myselfaswell

Having lived in the USA for a decade, I can agree that the US is not quite as dangerous as it is made out to be. However, I live in New Zealand .... I am pretty sure I am safer her, baring earthquakes, volcanoes and Tsunami.

Excellent post. I put this video in another thread but I'll add it here too:

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: myselfaswell

Having lived in the USA for a decade, I can agree that the US is not quite as dangerous as it is made out to be. However, I live in New Zealand .... I am pretty sure I am safer her, baring earthquakes, volcanoes and Tsunami.

No you guys are just insane with a meager survival instinct. People would be nuts to push you too far :p

a reply to: Teikiatsu

That is Australia with their wild life. Mother earth is trying to kill us, and we are still here Oh and our sports teams dress cooler than your sports teams

originally posted by: morgankesh62
all these stats and charts are a load of cods- wallop and will not saves lives.the more weapons out there,the ease to buy firearms the more these shootings will go on .if people in the usa are so clever with guns how come the killers are not taken out in the first five minuets then,fat lot of good saying you need guns for defence and the like if you dont shoot back,i was in the british army for 9 years and i couldnt just go and get a weapon from the armoury because some-one pissed me off.more control of guns and less guns out there is the only way forward.if you cant have less guns in the usa then you might have the brains to buy some bullet proof vests or find another way to save life.

Because most of the people with guns are law abiding citizens and don't take their guns in places that say 'No Guns Allowed'

Guess where most of the shootings happen?

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Teikiatsu

That is Australia with their wild life. Mother earth is trying to kill us, and we are still here

Oh and our sports teams dress cooler than your sports teams

Don't get me started with that. The USA needs to adopt Aussie Rugby as soon as possible.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

Umm AUssie rules? OR Rugby? Slight difference. Oh and yeah Australia is also safer than the US if you ignore the animals, wild fires, and droughts.

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Teikiatsu

Umm AUssie rules? OR Rugby? Slight difference. Oh and yeah Australia is also safer than the US if you ignore the animals, wild fires, and droughts.

Rules, my bad.

Australia is also an isolated continent with strict immigration control and 1/10 the population density (USA 32.45 ppl/km2 vs Australia 2.91). Only one of our states has a less dense population - Alaska at 1.3. #49 on our list is Wyoming at 6.0

a reply to: Teikiatsu

None the less the topic is that "America is probably safer than where you live". Which is subjective

a reply to: Sometimes

If someone is going premeditate to kill someone it is not going to be with a gun for any semi-sane individual. bc a person is going to try to get away with it.

A person who has lost reality is likely going to simply run over them with their car if they are in a rage.
Do you support banning cars?
If they are in a rage and have lost their sanity people are likely going to notice and perhaps call the police

If they have really lost it, we have knives, chainsaws, hammers, fist. Really though arson at night would be easy and low evidence. The grand slam is my opinion would be setting up carbon monoxide poisoning.

Crazy people happen. The end.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

Overall population density is one of the most abused statistics when comparing countries, as far as I am concerned.

If you compare the US to Australia using population density to arable land, or urban density, you will find things far more comparable.