Link between Orlando Terror Shooting, San Bernadino and Washington Naval Yard...and more?

a reply to: stinkelbaum

You know, these posts are not even funny. Not sure why you are doing it but if you take the time there is a link to all of these and somehow it is being exploited.

a reply to: Willtell

In 2010, G4S Wackenhut changed its name to G4S Secure Solutions (USA) to reflect the new business model.

So in the US they became the USA SS?

originally posted by: eisegesis
Orlando shooter's employer G4S found nothing of concern

Orlando FBI chief Ron Hopper said agents investigated Mateen in 2013 and in 2014 regarding terror threats, but lacked sufficient evidence in both cases to pursue charges.

They must have seen something in him that he didn't at the time.

One must wonder if the FBI hadn't been profiling this guy for years, and only investigated (and probably questioned) him in order to plant the seed of terroristic ideas, or to push him past ideas into wanting to act.

Just like an addict or someone with an addictive personality--if you dangle the carrot enough times, they're going to seize the moment at some point.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

He is also tied to this guy...Marcus Dwayne Robertson. He is based now in Orlando after prison release.

www.dailymail.co.uk... ebsite-used-dispense-teachings.html

Robertson, who was a former US Marine and undercover FBI agent before turning into a radical Imam, was released from prison last year despite warning from officials and prosecutors that he would recruit people to carry out horrendous acts of violence. He was considered so dangerous that he was kept shackled with his own security detail away from other inmates. Whenever he was transported to court, authorities had a seven-car caravan of armed federal marshals escort him. He was eventually moved to solitary confinement after prison officials discovered that he was trying to radicalize his fellow inmates. After serving as a Marine for six years, Robertson, 47, went on to become a bank robber, before turning FBI informant after his arrest in exchange for a short prison sentence. He was dismissed by the FBI in 2007 after allegedly attacking his CIA handler, and then began preaching Islamic extremism. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... ebsite-used-dispense-teachings.html#ixzz4BZn8JPUY Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

So we have a Muslim extremist who not only connected through his mosque to the first known US suicide bomber, his other 'friend' happens to be a FBI/CIA contact who was cut loose because of his ties.

The final nail...it was the HIllary State Department who shut down the investigation at that mosque.

originally posted by: thinline
so what you are saying is...

That the Obama administration can label all of these acts as work place violence instead of Islamic terrorism

I'm honestly reluctant to say much online lately because of the climate here in the states, but if you do a little checking on Philip B. Haney it may be of help in bringing our current predicament into clearer focus. The man has impeccable credentials. In March of 2003 he received this signed and dated certificate:

Be it known that Philip B. Haney is a Founding Member of the Department of Homeland Security, dedicated to preventing terrorist attacks within the United States, reducing America's vulnerability to terrorism, and minimizing the damage from potential attacks and natural disasters.

His book (with co-author Art Moore), "See Something, Say Nothing. A Homeland Security Officer Exposes The Government's Submission To Jihad" is pretty eye-opening. If his work hadn't been deleted at the order of "high-ups", San Bernardino (and possibly more) might have been prevented. He was too good at his job.

From Page 18:

The Madrassa Boys case, the Tablighi Jamaat Initiative, and the IIE case had all demonstrated the legitimacy of the concerns Congress expressed publicly about the "radicalization" of US citizens and the failure to connect the dots, particularly following the 2009 Christmas Day bombing attempt by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the "Underwear Bomber".

But, now, here I was, being investigated once again by my own agency, for doing exactly what Congress had commissioned us to do.

Three years later, on December 10, 2015, as details of the San Bernardino shooting were still emerging, I appeared on Megyn Kelly's Fox Newsn Channel program, The Kelly File, to talk about the Tablighi Jamaat case and its relationship to the massacre. The next morning, Smith called me, saying that all he could think about were the families of the people who were killed by Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik.

The approach has shifted from a law-enforcement-based to a "civil rights"-based policy known as Countering Violent Extremism, or CVE.

From page 5:

Emphasizing "engagement and dialogue," CVE focuses on protecting civil rights and civil liberties. Not of American citizens in general, but particularly of Muslims, both citizens and foreigners, who in many instances are associated with a threat to the nation's security.

So anyone hoping to make a dent in this growing problem has one hand tied behind their back because of official policy. If someone has known connections to people or a place of worship that is on the radar of national security and makes trips in and out of the country to somewhere on the list of potentially troublesome areas, all of that is off-limits and they are NOT allowed to put any of it in a database allowing the cross-referencing of individuals and places of worship with radical/terrorist ties.

It is a violation of their civil rights to monitor known three & four man groups highly trained at proselytizing for radical Islam.

And if there is no active threat, why are there Blackhawks flying over my home back and forth to Orlando? Earlier in the week prior tp the shooting, a few days before, I saw a AH-64, twice. Never seen an attack helicopter here...except for airshows.

You do not see these where I live. I also lived in the Tampa/St Pete area for years and you would see CENTCOM/SOCOM maneuvers all the time.

a reply to: matafuchs

Black hawks have been flying over Tampa for two years now, but that had to do with relocating them due to limited capacity issues. They have to practice too. Even when I went to enjoy this, there was not an Apache present.


Maybe they are just stationed near you, or have recently been relocated from somewhere else? I went to the 2014 show though, not this years.

a reply to: AmericanRealist

I lived in St Pete for years since I was a kid in the 70's. You saw them all the time as well as other jets out of MacDill. This sudden appearance is not a coincidence.

Bottom line, I have heard from 2 people in Law Enforcement. A sheriff spokesperson and a sheriff I know very well. Long term employees.They advised us to not go anywhere for at least the next week in Orlando. The security has been beefed up at all parks and public places.

The spokesperson told me they could not tell me more based on the ongoing investigation but also advised to not go to any public places in the Orange Country near theme parks, etc.

Seeing these military vehicles in areas they should not be reminds me of Boston.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Look…I’m not doing politics from this perspective.

From the conspiracy angle this isn’t right/left for me at least, it’s right/wrong.


I like the investigative aspect of this thread...gathering information.

I agree in as much that this if not political in the ordinary sense.

Politics is absolutely being used as part of a much larger agenda. In a perfect world, a country that offered everyone the same freedoms and civil rights while providing for the common good would be about as close to paradise on earth as could be hoped for. Unfortunately, this world is far from perfect.

As you said, I am speaking apolitically and have no religious agenda, either. With the way things are unfolding, anyone with the backbone to speak up will surely be labeled a racist & bigot in short order. There is a kind of loathsome brilliance to this strategy. Anyone attempting to sound the alarm will become the focus and the actual problem will continue to grow unabated...

a reply to: CornShucker

Phillip Haney being interviewed on HANNITY RADIO SHOW NOW.

a reply to: IAMTAT

That is quite an eye opening story, current Administration
deleted his research, it might have helped deter the Orlando attack.

Something very wrong here....

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: IAMTAT

That is quite an eye opening story, current Administration
deleted his research, it might have helped deter the Orlando attack.

Something very wrong here....

This stinks on ice.
He said Ft. Pierce Islamic Center info. was deleted. Could've possibly prevented this.

a reply to: IAMTAT

San Bernadino

thehill.com...

It is stated it could have stopped these attacks also...

Faisal Shahzad (May 2010), Detroit “honor killing” perpetrator
Rahim A. Alfetlawi (2011); Amine El Khalifi, who plotted to blow up the U.S. Capitol (2012);
Dzhokhar or Tamerlan Tsarnaev who conducted the Boston Marathon bombing (2013);
Oklahoma beheading suspect Alton Nolen (2014);
Muhammed Yusuf Abdulazeez, who opened fire on two military installations in Chattanooga, Tennessee (2015)

a reply to: IAMTAT

A related article...( main stream but still confirms many key
points of his story )

www.freep.com...

originally posted by: CornShucker

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Look…I’m not doing politics from this perspective.

From the conspiracy angle this isn’t right/left for me at least, it’s right/wrong.


I like the investigative aspect of this thread...gathering information.

I agree in as much that this if not political in the ordinary sense.

Politics is absolutely being used as part of a much larger agenda. In a perfect world, a country that offered everyone the same freedoms and civil rights while providing for the common good would be about as close to paradise on earth as could be hoped for. Unfortunately, this world is far from perfect.

As you said, I am speaking apolitically and have no religious agenda, either. With the way things are unfolding, anyone with the backbone to speak up will surely be labeled a racist & bigot in short order. There is a kind of loathsome brilliance to this strategy. Anyone attempting to sound the alarm will become the focus and the actual problem will continue to grow unabated...

I being from an Islamic heritage can say things others can’t say


And they certainly don’t know what I know


I’m planning a OP called…Its Wahhabism Stupid, maybe or something like that


Notice the lack of interest when I do that


people are truly programmed

a reply to: Willtell

Would that be like a Catholic starting "The Church of the Holy Bong Water"?

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: CornShucker

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Look…I’m not doing politics from this perspective.

From the conspiracy angle this isn’t right/left for me at least, it’s right/wrong.


I like the investigative aspect of this thread...gathering information.

I agree in as much that this if not political in the ordinary sense.

Politics is absolutely being used as part of a much larger agenda. In a perfect world, a country that offered everyone the same freedoms and civil rights while providing for the common good would be about as close to paradise on earth as could be hoped for. Unfortunately, this world is far from perfect.

As you said, I am speaking apolitically and have no religious agenda, either. With the way things are unfolding, anyone with the backbone to speak up will surely be labeled a racist & bigot in short order. There is a kind of loathsome brilliance to this strategy. Anyone attempting to sound the alarm will become the focus and the actual problem will continue to grow unabated...

I being from an Islamic heritage can say things others can’t say
And they certainly don’t know what I know
I’m planning a OP called…Its Wahhabism Stupid, maybe or something like that
Notice the lack of interest when I do that
people are truly programmed

I can guarantee you'll have one guy read it with interest.

Maybe, just maybe you can snap a few people out of their complacency. I agree with you about how people have given away far too much and just stumble through their days blindly accepting whatever their chosen politicians or so-called journalists feed them with no personal discernment.

For a while now, I've held off saying it but I wish someone would remind a certain "Constitutional scholar" that there is precedent for a president initiating a temporary ban on allowing foreign nationals to enter the country. Democrat Jimmy Carter placed a temporary ban on Iranians during tension while they held our embassy personnel hostage. He also booted Iranian students as well as others out of the country as well!

originally posted by: stinkelbaum
if were looking for tenuous links, i understand the perpetrators had at some point drunk coffee and cola, therefore tying nescafe and pepsi into this conspiracy.

Well, that actually makes a whole lot more sense than the media's brilliant theory that guns (Specifically semiautomatic ones) cause mass shootings.

Whew good Gad al mighty!! I've just recovered from a severe case of "lost voice" This stinks to high heaven and the worst part is the droppings of bread crumbs for us "the pigeons" to gobble up, some of us are ravens and crow's though. Either one of two scenarios here... 1). Intentional misdirection (but the gubmint would never do that) or 2). blatant boasting as in the "in yo face beetches" kind!

The first "good" (high paying) job I was offered after my enlistment contract ended was for embassy security duty in Kuwait. I walked away from that in an attempt to salvage my marriage (unsuccessfully). I took another way lower paying job close to home. I ended up leaving that job (the domestic security field pays sh!t) to pursue a less stressful better paying gig.

I lost that job when a STATE LEVEL (conducted by state police not feds) background check came back with a negative hit. WHEN I inquired into this I found out that one of the references I used (1 out of 3) bad mouthed me. It wasn't hard for me to deduce the "x factor" here.

2 of the 3 references I used were "day ones" ,"ride or dies" or best lifelong friends... one of which I served with. The third was a girlfriend who (bad timing for me) I had had some issues with maybe a week before she was interrogated.

The reviewing officer's account (which he was not even supposed to tell me) was that "one of my references had said that I was a conspiracy theorist and into sites such as ATS". That was all it took to prevent me from being a "special police officer" glorified security guard of a gated community.

I'm not saying anything other than this whole event smells like well placed hot garbage!

I know this falls into the "I know someone and trust me because it's true and blah blah blah" But I knew you guys would want to hear this and if you have been around here at all you know me and you know I do not care for nonsense or baseless theories. These things being said, here you go: My younger cousin (one of two twin sisters about nine years younger than me) works in the ER where the victims were taken that night. She has been working there for over five years now. She related to me two days ago that when the victims were all being brought in, one individual was also brought in (she DID NOT work on him and has no further information beyond what I am telling you here) and was guarded by six armed guards all night. She has no idea who he was, she did not work on him, and at the time she assumed it might be a cop or someone involved in the shooting. Since we know now it could not have been a cop and we know the story is that there was only one shooter, she is baffled as to who this was, what with the shooter being killed on site. Like I said, I knew you guys would want to hear about this and that is all of the information I have.