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Mysterious Art Bell guest vanishes over time - In search of the Hollow Earth / Shambala / Agartha

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posted on Jun, 9 2016 @ 11:21 PM
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I accidentally... or unintentionally rather, came across an article on Hollow Earth by the Telegraph on the Agartha, Land of the Ancients, or the Hidden Land, etc - which is rumoured to exist throughout many cultures and myths, etc

Most articles like this I think many can attest are dismissive and usually make a short mockery of the subject before ending with a jab at anything that doesn't fit with common thought. No matter the subject, so long as it isn't accepted thought it gets a pretty decent bashing without any serious look in most media sources.

In this case the author actually looked into the subject though, and that alone surprised me but it made for an interesting read as well.

Enter Dallas Thompson aka - Dallas Steven Thompson Jr. - Original C2C Program with Art Bell & SD Thompson

A young guy (30s) from Hawaii who called in to the Art Bell show October 4th 2002.

The article gives a brief history of Thompson, a former personal trainer who hydroplaned during an El Nino storm, who's care went reverse 70MPH off a cliff 250ft and crashed. Destroyed the top of the car in the wreck:






When Thompson was found, the roof of his blue Honda Accord had been crushed almost to the floor. The fireman who rescued him was amazed he hadn’t been decapitated. As he’d been sitting, helpless, in the wreck, Thompson had had a vivid near-death experience. He claimed to have seen a “light so bright that it burnt my eyes” and made him “legally blind” and to have had bizarre knowledge about the world poured into him. When he regained consciousness, he was convinced that the Earth was hollow and had an opening at the North Pole. He’d come on Coast to Coast to discuss his mission to locate and explore it.




The guy mentions in the original article seems to have tracked down the Dallas Thompson story nearly everywhere it's posted online, and claims that Dallas plagiarized him. The thing I noticed (besides the tenacity and persistence of the guy claiming this) is that the book he claims the material was stolen from is only 25 pages long.

The Cosmic Manuscript by Dallas Thompson is itself 172 Pages. Im not sure how 25 pages can turn into 172. Unless he means to say he copied multiple books, but what I read wasn't that. The book Thompson wrote also appears to have chapter titles that, at least some, are personal or specific/individual to his story.



And, while it is available, it's being sold for $800+ up to $1000.00 which doesn't agree entirely with the news article. Since they all appear to be used, and indeed the book is not widely available as its implied.

The original article from Telegraph states the author made an attempt to track down the person behind Stephen Dallas Thompson. And while the author claiming he was plagiarizing him gave an area and address, the author struck up nil in his efforts. That being said, he implied there was a simple explanation, and that he was merely hiding because he had plagiarized someone else's work.

I just don't see how the whole story makes sense. The caller on Art Bell, Dallas Thompson, put a lot into this if it was just a 'con'. He really sounds like he is convinced in everything he speaks about in the C2C call.

The interesting part was he claimed he had investors who were going to fund his trip in search of the inter-dimensional vortex leading into the middle of the Earth/Agartha/Hollow Earth/etc. He wasn't asking for money or funding, he claimed he had all that set and was planning to make his trip up there. Not only that, but the film crew that was planning it had worked with him in the past. Which begs the question, where's the beef?

He had a website called - tothehollowearth.com and I went into internet archive to try and pull the old snapshots, but got an error each time. It appears the website is still owned, but not directed anywhere. His old site, the main one for his manuscript can still be snapshotted, and I grabbed the snapshots.

Multiple posts around the web bring up the story and a few just dismiss it easily, some pointing out the guy was manic or other non-arguments. One thing I will point out is I believe Admiral Byrd's "journal" has been adequately debunked, and its cited a few times in the discussion. Besides that this is Skunk Works, so Im hoping people can rather shed some light on the story vs simply trying to hammer it into the ground.

The story peaked my interest because I hadn't heard abut it. In fact, I might've but I would've immediately dismissed it. It does seem familiar but it's not something I would've paid any attention to. What I have trouble with now is how quickly and easily it's disappeared. Most of this stuff is mirrored by multiple people, or just doesn't disappear the way this one has.

As someone from one of the articles I read said: "It can't be that hard to find someone who's been documented in various places."

And they're right. The original author of the article tracked down who the accusatory author claimed was the original author of Cosmic Manuscript, and who was living in the right place at the right time. But they were much older, fatter, and even though also an author, apparently no the right Dallas Thompson.

He then found another number with the right name, right place:


Maybe Thompson is in hiding. Maybe government forces or evil bankers made him disappear, terrified of the world-changing truths he was about to unleash. Maybe he did journey to Hollow Earth, descend into it with his helicopter backpack and is now prancing joyfully with the mammoths, and the ancient tribes, living in a paradise of pure air, warm climes and abundant food that will sustain him for another 1,657 years.

Or maybe he forgot to pay his phone bill.


The skeptic in me is going to point out that an unpaid phone bill just doesn't seem likely. The websites, the investors, the plans, the participation, all of it evaporated, vanished into the ghost of machine. What is more likely to me is that the other, older author perhaps capitalized off of an article of a car crash victim. But that doesn't quite make sense either, because he has the same name.

All of it is just too coincidental. I could see it a big ruse to try and sell books, but those types of people tend to follow up, to parade around follow ups. To chase down other authors whining about a copied sentence or paragraph.

So if anyone has anything more on this story, without spending the entire effort trashing it, this would be a good place to link or post. I searched but didn't find anything.
edit on 10-6-2016 by boncho because: (no reason given)


EDIT: most importantly I think, here is the original Yahoo Group Thompson was reportedly posting to. The one he later vanished from.
edit on 10-6-2016 by boncho because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 9 2016 @ 11:32 PM
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It is told that it takes 15 hellish days to get to the "paradise" of middle Earth. There are apples grown there, as big as your head. Gotta have ginormous edibles for all the Giants that inhabit middle Earth.

That's all I got.

Good mystery!!



posted on Jun, 9 2016 @ 11:45 PM
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a reply to: boncho

I've researched this for quite some time. The world under our feet has always been fascinating to me. It's no coincidence that when people speak up about their interest in exploring the north pole, people get interfered with.

A man named Steve Currey had very detailed plans about a hollow earth expedition. In fact, his website for the trip is still up:

www.voyagehollowearth.com

Coincidentally, Currey died before the date of the voyage.



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 12:15 AM
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a reply to: AgarthaSeed

The original article linked gave a pretty detailed account of origins to Steve Currey's expedition or the failings in the origins.


So convinced was Cluff that, in 1981, he flew his wife and five children from New Mexico to a new life in Alaska. “I thought, ‘Why don’t we see if we can find the way to the Hollow Earth?’ ”

In Alaska, Cluff met a small group of people who had travelled to the icy state with the same idea. Soon they were ready to embark upon their mission. “We started on the road up to Point Barrow,” he says. “We saw a sign, at one point, saying ‘This Is A Private Road: Don’t Go Any Further’. So we didn’t go any further.”


Obviously Cluff was lacking some tenacity, which he later found when he met up with Currey. His website may be up, but it appears he's passed on:


. In 2003, he received an email from a man named Steve Currey who’d recently inherited his family’s travel firm that specialised in far-flung expeditions. Currey had once heard his father talking about the Hollow Earth and was familiar with Cluff’s book. They decided to plan a new trip.

“We worked on it for several years,” says Cluff. The scheme involved chartering a Russian nuclear ice breaker that was used to take tourists to the North Pole. Once the basics were worked out, they began recruiting members. “Steve was charging about $26,000 for a spot on the ship and he actually got about 40 people to put down the money.”

Before the voyage, they chartered a plane to fly over the pole to locate the opening. “We were going to leave in August 2006. But in April of that year, Steve found out he had six inoperable brain tumours. Just before we were ready to fly, he died.”


That wasn't the end of the disasters either:



Another member of the expedition – Dr Brooks Agnew – was appointed as the new leader. After renaming the operation “The North Pole Inner Earth Expedition” and raising yet more funding, they planned for a summer 2014 departure. But a further unexpected disaster befell the team.



“Brooks Agnew resigned last September,” says Cluff. “He said a major stockholder in his company had withdrawn all their money, saying it was because [Agnew] was involved in an expedition to find the Hollow Earth.”
When another key member of the team died in an aeroplane crash, Cluff began to wonder if mysterious powers were manoeuvring against them.


People talk about "mysterious powers" or "the powers to be" all the time, and claim they are being thwarted. But to be honest, it's becoming rarer and rarer. Not those claims specifically, but the believability of those claims. Instead we have certifiable crackpots and idiots pushing grand wild claims, "Born in Agartha, son of the Plaedians, blah blah blah"

I haven't combed over the stories enough to discern what appears to be fact or fiction, but I presume the misinformation and disinformation (if there is anything worth discovering) would keep anyone from knowing the truth anyway.



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 06:32 AM
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but...but....they told me it was flat. Oh, I am so confused..


JK, interesting mystery. Nice job on presentation.



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 09:27 AM
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What C2C episode was that so I can find it? Never mind, I see you already posted it.
edit on 10-6-2016 by Onthebit because: found the answer



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 12:44 PM
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The backing off the cliff sounds like a suicide attempt.

If something can't be ruled out with present information it should be looked at.




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In the 1864 science fiction classic, Journey to the Center of the Earth, Professor Otto Lidenbrock deciphers a message that reads: "Descend, bold traveller, into the crater of the jökull of Snæfell, which the shadow of Scartaris touches before the Kalends of July, and you will attain the centre of the earth. I did it." And so starts an imaginative and lively adventure.

Today, Jules Verne’s subterranean adventure seems quaint in comparison to fictional space expeditions. However, at the time it was published, many wondered what lay deep beneath the Earth’s surface. A few people truly though planet was hollow. ​ Decades before, a real-life journey to the Earth’s center nearly happened thanks to a notoriously passionate proponent of the Hollow Earth theory and an American president, writes Esther Inglis-Arkell for io9.com.

It was the 1820's. John Cleves Symmes, Jr., an American army officer was traveling around the country on the lecture circuit, proclaiming his theory of a Hollow Earth, one that envisioned the planet as several solid concentric spheres, according to a circular he published, featured by Rebecca Onion at Slate’s history blog "The Vault." Symmes was asking for "one hundred brave companions, well equipped, to start from Siberia in the fall season, with Reindeer and slays, on the ice of the frozen sea…" with plans to slip between those concentric spheres, which he believed were open at the poles "12 or 16 degrees."

For io9.com, Inglis-Arkell writes that Symmes lobbied Congress for funding for the epic journey. They said no. However:

John Quincy Adams said yes.

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I wonder what information made the President say yes. They never made the expedition though.




posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
but...but....they told me it was flat. Oh, I am so confused..


JK, interesting mystery. Nice job on presentation.


Weird how popular Flat Earth got in the last 5 years or so isn't it? Hollow Earth is something else entirely. The Earth doesn't actually have to be hollow for there to be a Hollow Earth. Channeling the inner science fiction writer in me, there could be a dimensional vortex, at the poles. There could be a way to cross over into another realm, etc, with the entrance and exists on either side of the world. Which ties in to numerous myths and religions all around the world. Vanishing islands, mirages, etc up in the areas they claim to exist.

Im not saying these do exist, but they could, without the world needing to be actually physically hollow. There was a paper just this week or last I went looking for it but couldn't find it. Essentially it was looking for very subtle changes in the desert and had to do with multidimensional physics. A world inside the world.

There are various trains of thought on this kind of thing. A world living inside a world. Multidimensional worlds living in the same space as each other.

We see the world in the spectrum of light our eyes are able to process. What if we saw by way of x-rays, gamma rays or wider wavelengths? (Besides the obvious problems with trying to light your home). Infrared? Better yet, what if we saw the world by the vibrational or rotational characteristics at the molecular level. Meaning we would see molecular make up of everything around us, but it would appear like being stuck in a sea or foam (gas that makes up air). Forget that, what about if distance was just unknown, in observable, or time even. If we had no perception of distance, what world would we see? Just gobs of matter pressed against each other? In any case, many hypotheses, theories, thought, philosophies, etc have all posed questions similar.

The Flatlanders are a perfect example.



Ants and bugs are pretty close to Flatlanders. We wreck havoc on them all the time, maybe because our wives screamed in fear-disgust-anger. So we run off to nuke their courageous herder-hunters off on a mission.

Here's the thing though, we have mathematical theories, like String mainly, to at least posit the potentiality of a world that could be connected to many more dimensions. We could be the Flatlanders.

How ignorant are we to not only ignore that possibility, but declare that anyone who even entertains or inquires about it is a moron. That we should be happy with and cease entirely once we've reached the current, common-accepted-thought.

If you refuse to let your mind be held captive, then it doesn't take long to find certain things in history that speak to a much more interesting relationship we have to our Earth and inner-Earth.



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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The backing off the cliff sounds like a suicide attempt.


Maybe I presented it poorly. It doesn't sound like a suicide attempt [in context]. It was a massive rain storm I believe taking place in Hawaii (Ocean-Tropical Weather), during El Nino specifically, and he was travelling 70 MPH I think, spun around 4 times and then flew off a cliff, dropping 250 ft.

The emergency responders brought a body bag. They couldn't believe he was alive. Now, I believe his blindness was documented, but I haven't been able to find anything to confirm the nature of it. Essentially he was diagnosed legally blind at the hospital after the accident.

The thing is though, he claims it was from burned out retinas. (Not detached or other physical damage, which you might expect) When he went off the cliff, after crashing, he remembers seeing a giant-bright-light, so bright it was comparable to looking into the sun. His claim is that the burning of his retinas are from the light.

Now, this is a pretty huge stretch. I was kinda bummed out I couldn't find many pieces of supporting evidence for this case. Which is frankly bizarre. We have a documented accident, a planned trip with investors (which I can get the website to work in iArchive, and we have books sold, and various people officially associated. Records are near non-existent though. It's like him and his story was purged from the net.

Anyway, even as unlikely as it is, I was in search of medical reports or newspaper articles documenting his injuries to see if I could confirm how he sustained the damage to his eyes. I think some people overlooked this, Art Bell certainly did in the interview, as you can hear DST state the reason he went blind, but Bell was more concerned with protesting a blind man wondering into the arctic in search of a fairy tale doorway.

He was determined to be legally blind, but claimed his sight came back to him eventually. Though he still has trouble reading. It would be interesting to know if this could be debunked, or just to have some kind of confirmation of what happened exactly. If it was indeed burned out retinas from a bright light, it may be the one of the very few instances where physical evidence was left behind when someone 'went into the light'. Im not holding my breath on it though. The cynic in me says detached or damaged retinas from the fall/crash.
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posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 03:26 PM
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He was planning on making the journey on May 24 2003. The Iraq war started March 3 2003.

Anyone else think it's funny the YouTube video linked in the article no longer exists?

This is an interesting story, thanks for bringing it up. I wonder, can we find out if anyone close to him also has disappeared? I mean, surely if anyone was going to take him out they would possible take out anyone close enough to him that knows what he knows? But then again, he did write the book so I guess the cat is out of the bag and all they could do now is stop him from looking for the hole?

Fun topic, I look forward to any new developments.
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posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: boncho

Weird how popular Flat Earth got in the last 5 years or so isn't it?


It sure seems like disinfo meant to discredit all theories that question the official geological story of the earth.



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: boncho

Thanks, yes that sounds different. So he was not despondent and ready to die.



he was travelling 70 MPH I think, spun around 4 times and then flew off a cliff, dropping 250 ft.

From the OP


who's care went reverse 70MPH off a cliff 250ft and crashed



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEyeYou want to talk

disinfo meant to discredit


Stop by and check out Subduction. Earthquakes are Proof of a Expanding Earth.



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: MotherMayEyeYou want to talk

disinfo meant to discredit


Stop by and check out Subduction. Earthquakes are Proof of a Expanding Earth.



I will! On that note, I believe I read somewhere that until the theory of subduction became officially accepted as a leading geological theory, the expanding earth theory was a real contender.

I tried once to find photos of subduction in action, but all I could find were artist renderings. I've been meaning to do more in-depth digging though.




edit on 10-6-2016 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEyeI couldn't find any either. But that in itself is no reason to dispell the theory. There are better ones to do that. The whole theory of Subduction, is authorless. No one is taking credit for it. The only thing I could find was Samuel Cary taught it, but then rejected it as unworkable. And his station in life is or was much higher than mine


My conclusion is, via ages of the ocean floors, expanding. And a solid planet can not expand, and that is why they are pushing "Subduction". My guess.

Oh, love your name by the way lol lol
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posted on Jun, 10 2016 @ 11:28 PM
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Earth is not expanding and it is not hollow. Subduction is the process that balances out sea floor spreading. It is the direct opposite of proof that Earth is getting bigger.

Subduction is not authorless. It was first proposed by Harry Hess in 1962 as a mechanism (together with sea floor spreading) behind Weggener's continental drift theory. It has been researched for many decades and has a lot of evidentiary support. No-one is "pushing" subduction - that implies that there is some sort of covert agenda behind it. It is a theory that has gained acceptance because the evidence supports it. That's how actual science works, as opposed to just making stuff up.

Plate tectonics is powered by the internal geology of the Earth. If you accept subduction as a geological process you deny a hollow Earth.



posted on Jun, 11 2016 @ 09:10 AM
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Plate tectonics is powered by the internal geology of the Earth. If you accept subduction as a geological process you deny a hollow Earth.
Thank you for that, and that. But actually, you must reject not only subduction, you must reject a global layer of molten lava as well.

Again, thank you for Harrys name, I will research him, and his associations..



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 12:26 AM
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I thought you had missed that it was in a bad weather storm, which was documented. Very well could've wanted to commit suicide, though nothing has been mentioned in that respect. We could just assume any crash is automatically suicide attempts, but Im not sure the purpose nor the giant leap in logic it takes to assume any crash is a suicide.

It could just have been bad weather and he hydroplaned when he hit a patch of water on the road, spun around a few times before going off a cliff. As stated. How does one plan to hydroplane their car while attempting suicide?

In either case he lived to tell about it, had an NDE, and was involved in an accident no human was likely to walk away from. Your random assertion makes little difference to the point or the effect of the story.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 05:29 PM
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Anyone else find the location of the North Pole opening?



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 03:00 PM
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Brooks Agnew is still on the talk radio circuit peddling his electric trucks more so than trying to get together an expedition.

This is an imaginative read: The Smoky God (George Emerson-Olaf Jansen) A true account of the Norwegian sailor Olaf Jansen and how he sailed his sloop through an entrance to the Earth's interior at the North Pole.

www.checktheevidence.com...
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