Is Stephen Hawkings really an Imposter?

a reply to: kuraijanai2013

Yes, it would easily be possible, all they have to do is find another person with an advanced case of a super rare disease that causes physical deformities and looks identical to Stephen Hawking and to have the 'new' version with the same medical prognosis outlive the original.

Honestly, to me the main differences between the two photos relate to one being taken under studio lighting and the other, not.

This, like the YouTube flat earthers and Nibiru/Aztec Calendar nonsense in 2012 is yet another example of Internet kookiness.

God help my bored ass.

He's a media personality as well as a scientist and will have management. Going off the variety of images on google, it looks like he's had his hair coloured a few times. Where he should be grey, a lot of more recent images show him with blondy brown hair. These could be photoshopped by his media management guys or his hair really has been tinted.

Does it matter? Not much.

His missus might want him to look good on TV and photos. He could appreciate his role-model status as a disabled person and wants to look his best.

He's more than a brain in a wheelchair, he's a human being with all that goes with it - emotions, self-esteem etc.

originally posted by: bknapple32
What I find fascinating is the sleuths on ATS have done all their judging based on two pictures provided by the OP. Nevermind the thousands of pictures and video that exist on the internet. No no, lets just look at these two pics and call it a day. Eye Roll....

Not directed at the OP.

Kind of the way it works with Mulders.
Look at every major event that gets covered here and you have people that think they can tell more about a situation from a few pictures then people actually doing the work on the ground. Their is one poster here that every time something happens in the world you know they are going to show up and claim , "This picture doesnt look the way I think it should look , IllmuiNSAMasons proof!"

originally posted by: kuraijanai2013
a reply to: nonspecific

Good to hear a sensible and healthy discussion. It was even better to hear members took my words about not intending to offend as sincere, because they were.

I agree there are many facial similarities between the two pictures, especially the ears, which are normally the most accurate way of identifying people.

It is the ears that look off to me !

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: kuraijanai2013

You specifically HAVE insulted Mr. Hawkings, his family and sufferers of the condition. Why start this insinuation of a conspiracy if you DIDNT mean to do this very thing?

Its not even funny. Its intentionally trollish of you....and no, its not ok to just "what-if" on him or the condition. I feel bad for you.

Sometimes, it's ok. This time, I'd be ashamed to be you. "Can't think of anything else to conspire about?

As a member, I'd don't think either I'm alone in my opinion.

Welcome to ats, where nearly everything is offensive to somebody, somewhere, often based on nothing more than a "what if" question.

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: kuraijanai2013

You specifically HAVE insulted Mr. Hawkings, his family and sufferers of the condition. Why start this insinuation of a conspiracy if you DIDNT mean to do this very thing?

Its not even funny. Its intentionally trollish of you....and no, its not ok to just "what-if" on him or the condition. I feel bad for you.

Sometimes, it's ok. This time, I'd be ashamed to be you. "Can't think of anything else to conspire about?

As a member, I'd don't think either I'm alone in my opinion.

Welcome to ats, where nearly everything is offensive to somebody, somewhere, often based on nothing more than a "what if" question.

How DARE you!!!

!!!

Harumph!!!!

a reply to: kuraijanai2013

He's really a reptilian shapeshifter, why do you think he's always in that wheel chair?

Apparently his transport pod experienced turbulence and sustained moderate damage during the dimensional transfer from Planet Snake rending the power supply for his clocking device irreparable. Now forced to use Earth technology to power said clocking device he is stuck in that chair.

On a more serious note, the Man is a genius and arguably one of the greatest minds humanity has produced thus far, give the poor dude a break.

God bless you Mr Hawkins, i hope you live another 20 years!

a reply to: kuraijanai2013

Is Stephen Hawkings really an Imposter?

I want you to look at the two photos of him below. The one on the left is from 1970 and the one on the right from 1990 - twenty years apart...

Could be but I think you are missing a key component here. Photoshop

Believe it or not, version 1 was released in 1990

a reply to: kuraijanai2013

I find this conspiracy theory to be amusing and interesting.

It’s the bottom teeth that get me. He clearly had them replaced at some point because they used to be so decayed:


I guess I cannot understand why someone would pay money to have their bottom teeth replaced to look like these:




But that's about as far as I have gone with it.

originally posted by: Kandinsky

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: kuraijanai2013

You specifically HAVE insulted Mr. Hawkings, his family and sufferers of the condition. Why start this insinuation of a conspiracy if you DIDNT mean to do this very thing?

Its not even funny. Its intentionally trollish of you....and no, its not ok to just "what-if" on him or the condition. I feel bad for you.

Sometimes, it's ok. This time, I'd be ashamed to be you. "Can't think of anything else to conspire about?

As a member, I'd don't think either I'm alone in my opinion.

Welcome to ats, where nearly everything is offensive to somebody, somewhere, often based on nothing more than a "what if" question.

How DARE you!!!

!!!

Harumph!!!!

But....

What if I dare?!?

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Yes, I mean even the spectacle style has changed.

In all seriousness though, it could be a possibility, he is a bit of a cash cow for physics after all.

He certainly was not all that well off until 'A Brief History of Time' was published in the late 80's... I think, and that book was meant for us plebs to understand, still it was a 'huuuge success' as Trump might say. Still, I think it's safe to say that the book makes him wealthy in the low tens of millions of pounds sterling, while his contributions to science probably a lot less.
So he is not really filthy rich. As for the pictures, well it's the same man, just a bit older and chubbier on the right, could be happier now than he was in the earlier picture, if you by some of the things his ex-wife said about scientific colleagues around that time, (his ex-wife BTW is said to be back with him)

Curious though that Hawking pops up in a thread like this, just a few days after Hawking being the next critic of Trump, by calling Trump a demagogue.
Anyway, for Hawking's book, you can get it in audio on Youtube,

a reply to: kuraijanai2013

Frankly, while he's smart and all, he says some stupid things quite frequently.

I don't really consider him to be legitimate either way, since I disagree with him on many counts.

Who knows. You might be right. So then, who is this new Hawking? What do you think?

I think that your theory would actually explain a lot. Do you have any other thoughts on the matter? What made you think that he's an imposter? I was born in 1991, so my knowledge of him is limited to that time period.

I don't think you're being disrespectful. I think you bring up an interesting idea. Good for you.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: kuraijanai2013

I find this conspiracy theory to be amusing and interesting.

It’s the bottom teeth that get me. He clearly had them replaced at some point because they used to be so decayed:

I guess I cannot understand why someone would pay money to have their bottom teeth replaced to look like these:

But that's about as far as I have gone with it.

I'm thinking that could be pure necessity, Motor Neuron disability makes all the muscles weak, perhaps that way he can masticate any semi solid foods easier, or better. He could easily choke to death for a variety or reasons, and because the jaw drops in ALS, the mouth is open and he could aspirate foreign particles into the airways and lungs, that could include bacteria from the teeth even. It's a seriously dreadful disease, God bless him.

Lay off of the OP, this isn't the first time I've heard this theory. The average age of a person living with ALS is 3-5 years. Hawking has lived 52 years with it, only 5% live more than 10 years and only 1% live longer than 20. How convenient that the person that has lived the longest in the world with this disease is THE authority of quantum physics and other science. The mans word is taken as gospel how convenient that he can't talk without a voicebox. This conspiracy theory has as much weight as any (not saying I believe it but it is plausible until some I've seen on here)

a reply to: BoxFulder

"The mans word is taken as gospel how convenient that he can't talk without a voicebox."

I beg to differ given the fact that his own interpretation of the universe has changed over time. People don't consider Hawkins word to be gospel, but the information he does communicate does indeed bear consideration in our scientific community's

Whats a "voicebox" got to do with anything considering the Man in question expresses his ideas through mathematics a hell of a lot more than he does orally(electronic speech)?

a reply to: rukia

Thank you. I believe the Stephen Hawking of today may be a voice use for manipulating the polar views on science through the media. As for the physical person, who knows if he is the real man or not? But he does seem to be exceeding the age expectancy for someone with his condition...

a reply to: andy06shake

Hawking wrote a Brief history in time, the imposter could be the one with the evolving views (not stating as fact but rather devil's advocate), I only bring up the voicebox because it can be hacked, manipulated, into saying whatever the powers that be wants him to say(once again just playing devil's advocate)

originally posted by: kuraijanai2013
a reply to: rukia

Thank you. I believe the Stephen Hawking of today may be a voice use for manipulating the polar views on science through the media. As for the physical person, who knows if he is the real man or not? But he does seem to be exceeding the age expectancy for someone with his condition...

At least you've come up with an original conspiracy theory

You're suggesting 'TPTB' are using a disabled, mute man in a wheelchair to push the 'official story' of science.

Genius!

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Yes, I mean even the spectacle style has changed.

In all seriousness though, it could be a possibility, he is a bit of a cash cow for physics after all.

He certainly was not all that well off until 'A Brief History of Time' was published in the late 80's... I think, and that book was meant for us plebs to understand, still it was a 'huuuge success' as Trump might say. Still, I think it's safe to say that the book makes him wealthy in the low tens of millions of pounds sterling, while his contributions to science probably a lot less.
So he is not really filthy rich. As for the pictures, well it's the same man, just a bit older and chubbier on the right, could be happier now than he was in the earlier picture, if you by some of the things his ex-wife said about scientific colleagues around that time, (his ex-wife BTW is said to be back with him)

Curiuos though that Hawking pops up in a thread like this, just a few days after Hawking being the next critic of Trump, by calling Trump a demagogue.
Anyway, for Hawking's book, you can get it in audio on Youtube,

Sure, I appreciate he isn't stinking filthy rich, but he has managed to secure funding for quite a few Physics projects.

I think it is the same guy, but the eyebrows must be dyed the same colour of his hair, and that is rare to see.

Stephen Hawking's profile is different on the photos in the O.P, so it is very difficult to compare and tactics like this are usually used to try to prove something that proves nothing.

Interesting thread though.

originally posted by: kuraijanai2013
a reply to: rukia

Thank you. I believe the Stephen Hawking of today may be a voice use for manipulating the polar views on science through the media. As for the physical person, who knows if he is the real man or not? But he does seem to be exceeding the age expectancy for someone with his condition...

The man has a job for goodness sake, in the University of Cambridge..go and give him a shout!
If you want to talk about stats give proper credence to what they mean. MOST sufferers of ALS are not young for starters, 50 to 60+ and most of them do die in a few years, even so not enough is known if Hawking being very young at the onset can make any difference, his constant care may have made a difference, who knows?
Who knows his whole body pathology?
One thing is most important to him though, was the ability to communicate, and with the aid of his voice box he can, others may have died simply because they could not do that, so when you give him a shout, ask him about that, and I'll bet you he will say that the voice box has kept him going thus far, at least in some experience he has had.

This from Hawking just last year,

Physicist Hawking, who sufferers the disease, lost ability to speak in 1985
Said it was 'one of the most frightening and isolating' aspects of illness
Campaigners fear many patients die before getting the help they need
Many wait months for communication equipment, relying on family to interpret their needs, but others die first
Vital equipment includes alphabet charts, speech therapy as well as high-tech speech devices, eye gaze systems and voice-banking
5,000 people are living with the disease - 30% die within year of diagnosis

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

So you see, the same doesn't apply to all ALS sufferers at the same time in their illness, and that requires a variety of specialist skills at any given time.