Graham Hancock, New TedX :Is the house of history built on foundations of sand?

I am a big Graham Hancock fan! Here's his latest Tedx talk that ISN"T banned!

Since 2007, compelling evidence has been published in leading scientific journals confirming that fragments of a disintegrating giant comet struck the earth around 12,800 years ago. The impacts set in motion a mysterious 1,200-year global deep freeze that caused worldwide extinctions of species. Established theories about the emergence of civilization cite the invention of agriculture and monumental architecture some 11,600 years ago—immediately after the freeze. In this controversial presentation, best-selling author Graham Hancock argues that archaeologists, by not accounting for the cataclysm, have gravely misinterpreted history. What the record attests to is not the sudden invention of technology, but a transfer of technology to hunter-gatherers from a more advanced civilization.

I've listened to his colleague Randall Carlson on both Joe Rogan and Grimerica's podcast many times. I truly believe they are onto something the 12,800 year old cataclysmic event and the end of a previously advanced civilization.

In my opinion the ones who built the megalithic structures spanning the globe including Giza.

what's Grimerica like?

I never head of him/them?

a reply to: onequestion

Their (Carlson and Hancock) argument/hypothesis holds that there were 2 celestial impacters, separated by some 1200 years. It's an interesting hypothesis and there are some convincing points made on the JRE interview I've watched; mainstream archaeology is coming around to the idea that the Clovis people of North America were predated by another people that sailed south to South America during this Ice Age and some of the artifacts left by those people could very well help buoy their hypothesis. I'm not sure about an Atlantis/globe-trotting civilization connection, but I am very interested in this theory and hopeful other researchers' efforts in mainstream archaeology uncover supporting evidence of their hypothesis.

a reply to: BeefNoMeat

IMHO, the best proof of the jet set party civilization, is the fact that so many non-white cultures, have white gods

one of the tribes from central/south America, has a story about coming down from the north

originally posted by: thinline
a reply to: BeefNoMeat

IMHO, the best proof of the jet set party civilization, is the fact that so many non-white cultures, have white gods

one of the tribes from central/south America, has a story about coming down from the north

If I am reading you correctly, you're asserting that the 'white gods' of non-white cultures is an argument for an Atlantis connection? FYI I don't discount a possible Atlantis civilization as described by Plato.

pls just give me the bullet point, how did fragments of a comet contain alien tech ?

originally posted by: thinline
what's Grimerica like?

I never head of him/them?

They are good, two Canadian guys with a less serious but curious tone. They joke a lot but stick to the topic it's a good blend.

www.grimerica.com...

a reply to: BeefNoMeat

Yeah, I would say, most-not all-deities match the color palette of the civilization that stated worship them. In the same time period, you have multiple non white cultures the have descriptions of white people doing godlike things. I would argue that the odds of multiple non white cultures making superior beings being white, probably shows that some white people with superior technology showed up. To me, if multiple cultures are making up being, and color palettes, that the made up color would be either a better looking color then white, or a color that is more prevalent in their every day life.

a reply to: onequestion

Thanks

I am checking them out now

Is there any episode you recommend?

a reply to: thinline

Not really I listen to most of them.

If you like this topic listen to the Randal Carlson ones.

a reply to: onequestion

I love Hancock. I don't believe the vast majority of what he says, I'm generally cut from the cloth of empirical evidence on matters of facts, but he is one of the few fringe theorists that I'll entertain myself with now and then. As much as I love the scientific method and consensus, it's nice to just break free from it and speculate without boundaries for a while. I think I just like the stories he weaves much like I enjoy fiction writers, but I'm secretly hoping one day he will be proved right lol.

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a reply to: BelowLowAnnouncement

Well, you have to make an initial assertion before you can start.

This "theory" about impacts with global ramifications approx 12,000 years ago has so many data points to support it that I'm a little surprised it hasn't gained wider traction... but I'm thinking it will.

Catastrophic Theory lost ground to Uniformitariansm in the 19th century, but it's slowly swinging back around as more data is acquired.

I've been reading about tangential evidence for the two main impacts, primarily over North America, for 40 years ...and it has come far since the more tabloid 'crackpot' days. There are decent anthropologists who quietly agree with this scenario.

Unfortunately, it gets convoluted with interpretations from Bible thumpers (who admittedly have some more supporting evidence for their flood, tho I'd contest their ideas about its origins). But leaving that mess aside, the case for relatively recent large impacts and global effects is solid.

If we finally wake up to the danger posed from chunks of rock in our orbit, then all good. We actually could do something about it, now.

It would explain many "mysteries" discussed on this site.

a reply to: onequestion

Quite right, that's one of the reasons I entertain him and people like Robert M. Schoch too. Ya never know where the truth will come from!

a reply to: thinline

Gotcha. A corollary to that would be the treatment of the Conquistadors by the natives upon their arrival. If they would've left well enough alone, the natives may well have incorporated the 'whites' arrival enter their religious narrative and been the 'gods/deities' of the natives some 12,000 years. It's not far-fetched by any means; tangible evidence of an Atlantis has been ever-so-elusive and that gives me pause for its existence. There is evidence of people inhabiting the coast of South America at, or before, of the time of the Clovis people in North America.

I do enjoy Hancock's story-telling and believe he makes some convincing points/arguments, but the evidence so far doesn't point to an Atlantis connection (I know nothing of the white deities that these people worshiped, so I concede the possibility of a connection if, indeed, they were incorporating a white deity(s) into their religious narrative). Good chat

There were likely a series of events between 13k and 9k BC. Those events may have been what wiped out the mammoth, and pushed humanity into agrarianism. By 8k BC you see domesticated grains and bovines, goats/sheep, and pigs.

Thanks for sharing. I think Hancock's a moron, personally....but im interested in his ideas nonetheless.

originally posted by: BelowLowAnnouncement
a reply to: onequestion

Quite right, that's one of the reasons I entertain him and people like Robert M. Schoch too. Ya never know where the truth will come from!

Robert M Schock is somewhat more credible, however, as he seems to be a mainstream academic that isn't afraid to dabble in some woo for the sake of leaving no stone unturned. To me, that is commendable.

Great post

Imagine for a minute that you are the leader of a large and powerful country. Your scientists tell you that they have detected a 6 mile wide object that will collide with the earth creating a massive ice age.

What do you do?
Of course it depends upon the amount of time you have but how would you go about preserving your culture and hopefully reboot civilization?

I was thinking about that as I was working outside and realized that most people would die. So, you would have to choose who you would want to have alive. You would need multiple places for people to shelter and you would have to stockpile vast quantities of resources. You would also have to limit the number of people who would have access to your supplies otherwise they would consume all the food and then every one would die.

It would be a challange

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
Aww, Hancock as a "moron" is a tad harsh... maybe "silly," "overly credulous" and "motivated by book sales over careful science?"

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
I think Hancock's a moron, personally....but im interested in his ideas nonetheless.

Not to stray too far, but what makes you think Hancock is a moron?

As best as I can tell, he's been advocating the same thesis for 25 years and hasn't made any over-the-top Ancient Alien-type claims. In a nutshell, he believes there was a highly advanced civilization in pre-history that displayed high-culture, art, science, etc. and were sufficiently advanced enough to possess technology that would be god-like in the eyes of early humans. Along comes some impacter from space and that civilization (the Atlantis of Plato) is destroyed and any and all knowledge of its existence went with it.

He and Schock's thesis that the Sphinx is much older than currently accepted has always been of interest to me. Honestly, I find it hard to believe anyone would confuse Hancock as a moron and I respect your opinion and contributions - it strikes me odd you'd think him as a moron.

Sidebar: I swear I am gonna have you guys a file/pic for my avatar in the very near future. Thanks in advance!