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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Tempter
a reply to: JoshuaCox
I wish I could flag this as a racist thread and shut your ass down.
Give you a taste of your own medicine.
Hmm yet another conservative hoping for a "black teen bashing" thread maybe?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: JoshuaCox
6 news articles by easily manipulated news companies shapes your opinion on this?
I'm not saying our justice system isn't flawed. In fact, there are a number of things I would like to see addressed in a reform of our criminal justice system..
However I think maybe you should find the data and form an opinion around that rather than a handful of news articles.
Fair enough, find a case that refutes it..,
I couldnt...
Hell, I bet it has never ever happened in American history....
Yet in 15 min of Google I found dozens of cases with white rapists that go off with nothing...
Refutes what?
That rapists don't always get long sentences? Sorry, but I don't look at skin color when it comes to a violent crime such as this. You're just a rapist, no matter your hue.
If you want to find some interesting data though, you should look at non-violent crime and incarceration rates. Especially concerning drug arrests.
www.aclu.org...
sentencingproject.org...
No, an example of an African American caught dead to rights and convicted of rape that got less than a year sentence....
Just in the last year or so there have been half a dozen (at least) of white guys getting that amount of time. Yet I can find NO example when concerning blacks...
OK. Where did you get your data so I can comb through it?
Find one case where it happened to a black guy?
Half a dozen white Guy's in the last 2 years...
There should be one case in history for a black guy... Right??
I truly bet there isn't....
originally posted by: FaunaOrFlora
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Are you saying that Trump has a point about the Latino judge?
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: JoshuaCox
6 news articles by easily manipulated news companies shapes your opinion on this?
I'm not saying our justice system isn't flawed. In fact, there are a number of things I would like to see addressed in a reform of our criminal justice system..
However I think maybe you should find the data and form an opinion around that rather than a handful of news articles.
Fair enough, find a case that refutes it..,
I couldnt...
Hell, I bet it has never ever happened in American history....
Yet in 15 min of Google I found dozens of cases with white rapists that go off with nothing...
Refutes what?
That rapists don't always get long sentences? Sorry, but I don't look at skin color when it comes to a violent crime such as this. You're just a rapist, no matter your hue.
If you want to find some interesting data though, you should look at non-violent crime and incarceration rates. Especially concerning drug arrests.
www.aclu.org...
sentencingproject.org...
No, an example of an African American caught dead to rights and convicted of rape that got less than a year sentence....
Just in the last year or so there have been half a dozen (at least) of white guys getting that amount of time. Yet I can find NO example when concerning blacks...
OK. Where did you get your data so I can comb through it?
originally posted by: WhateverYouSay
originally posted by: FaunaOrFlora
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Are you saying that Trump has a point about the Latino judge?
It's the difference between fallacy and logic. You can use evidence to conclude someone is an idiot, you cannot declare someone an idiot to disregard their position.
Trump is putting the cart before the horse. OP is using evidence to show bias. OP did not say a white judge cannot give a fair trial, he reasoned why this white judge did not. The same way if it were demonstrated that Trump, in reality were given an unfair trial, he could make claims to motive.
Hope that helps.
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: JoshuaCox
6 news articles by easily manipulated news companies shapes your opinion on this?
I'm not saying our justice system isn't flawed. In fact, there are a number of things I would like to see addressed in a reform of our criminal justice system..
However I think maybe you should find the data and form an opinion around that rather than a handful of news articles.
Fair enough, find a case that refutes it..,
I couldnt...
Hell, I bet it has never ever happened in American history....
Yet in 15 min of Google I found dozens of cases with white rapists that go off with nothing...
Refutes what?
That rapists don't always get long sentences? Sorry, but I don't look at skin color when it comes to a violent crime such as this. You're just a rapist, no matter your hue.
If you want to find some interesting data though, you should look at non-violent crime and incarceration rates. Especially concerning drug arrests.
www.aclu.org...
sentencingproject.org...
No, an example of an African American caught dead to rights and convicted of rape that got less than a year sentence....
Just in the last year or so there have been half a dozen (at least) of white guys getting that amount of time. Yet I can find NO example when concerning blacks...
OK. Where did you get your data so I can comb through it?
Find one case where it happened to a black guy?
Half a dozen white Guy's in the last 2 years...
There should be one case in history for a black guy... Right??
I truly bet there isn't....
Maybe, maybe not. Can you prove that it happens to whites more than blacks? That is your claim, isn't it?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: WhateverYouSay
originally posted by: FaunaOrFlora
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Are you saying that Trump has a point about the Latino judge?
It's the difference between fallacy and logic. You can use evidence to conclude someone is an idiot, you cannot declare someone an idiot to disregard their position.
Trump is putting the cart before the horse. OP is using evidence to show bias. OP did not say a white judge cannot give a fair trial, he reasoned why this white judge did not. The same way if it were demonstrated that Trump, in reality were given an unfair trial, he could make claims to motive.
Hope that helps.
And my reasoning was not that the judges HATES blacks.
It was as human beings we tend to empathize better with those who look like us and our children.....
I really think the push back is from those hoping to bask in the glow of a black teen bashing thread.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: JoshuaCox
6 news articles by easily manipulated news companies shapes your opinion on this?
I'm not saying our justice system isn't flawed. In fact, there are a number of things I would like to see addressed in a reform of our criminal justice system..
However I think maybe you should find the data and form an opinion around that rather than a handful of news articles.
Fair enough, find a case that refutes it..,
I couldnt...
Hell, I bet it has never ever happened in American history....
Yet in 15 min of Google I found dozens of cases with white rapists that go off with nothing...
Refutes what?
That rapists don't always get long sentences? Sorry, but I don't look at skin color when it comes to a violent crime such as this. You're just a rapist, no matter your hue.
If you want to find some interesting data though, you should look at non-violent crime and incarceration rates. Especially concerning drug arrests.
www.aclu.org...
sentencingproject.org...
No, an example of an African American caught dead to rights and convicted of rape that got less than a year sentence....
Just in the last year or so there have been half a dozen (at least) of white guys getting that amount of time. Yet I can find NO example when concerning blacks...
OK. Where did you get your data so I can comb through it?
Find one case where it happened to a black guy?
Half a dozen white Guy's in the last 2 years...
There should be one case in history for a black guy... Right??
I truly bet there isn't....
Maybe, maybe not. Can you prove that it happens to whites more than blacks? That is your claim, isn't it?
Yes, by the fact that I can find a dozen examples from the last couple years alone, but not one case involving an African American..
If I'm wrong post one...
originally posted by: conspiracy nut
It's all about money, if you have it you can buy yourself the best lawyers. I guarantee if that Stanford kid was broke he wouldn't have gotten such a light sentence.
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: JoshuaCox
6 news articles by easily manipulated news companies shapes your opinion on this?
I'm not saying our justice system isn't flawed. In fact, there are a number of things I would like to see addressed in a reform of our criminal justice system..
However I think maybe you should find the data and form an opinion around that rather than a handful of news articles.
Fair enough, find a case that refutes it..,
I couldnt...
Hell, I bet it has never ever happened in American history....
Yet in 15 min of Google I found dozens of cases with white rapists that go off with nothing...
Refutes what?
That rapists don't always get long sentences? Sorry, but I don't look at skin color when it comes to a violent crime such as this. You're just a rapist, no matter your hue.
If you want to find some interesting data though, you should look at non-violent crime and incarceration rates. Especially concerning drug arrests.
www.aclu.org...
sentencingproject.org...
No, an example of an African American caught dead to rights and convicted of rape that got less than a year sentence....
Just in the last year or so there have been half a dozen (at least) of white guys getting that amount of time. Yet I can find NO example when concerning blacks...
OK. Where did you get your data so I can comb through it?
Find one case where it happened to a black guy?
Half a dozen white Guy's in the last 2 years...
There should be one case in history for a black guy... Right??
I truly bet there isn't....
Maybe, maybe not. Can you prove that it happens to whites more than blacks? That is your claim, isn't it?
Yes, by the fact that I can find a dozen examples from the last couple years alone, but not one case involving an African American..
If I'm wrong post one...
You posted 6 random news articles.
Do you want information on rape convictions or do you want news articles?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: JoshuaCox
6 news articles by easily manipulated news companies shapes your opinion on this?
I'm not saying our justice system isn't flawed. In fact, there are a number of things I would like to see addressed in a reform of our criminal justice system..
However I think maybe you should find the data and form an opinion around that rather than a handful of news articles.
Fair enough, find a case that refutes it..,
I couldnt...
Hell, I bet it has never ever happened in American history....
Yet in 15 min of Google I found dozens of cases with white rapists that go off with nothing...
Refutes what?
That rapists don't always get long sentences? Sorry, but I don't look at skin color when it comes to a violent crime such as this. You're just a rapist, no matter your hue.
If you want to find some interesting data though, you should look at non-violent crime and incarceration rates. Especially concerning drug arrests.
www.aclu.org...
sentencingproject.org...
No, an example of an African American caught dead to rights and convicted of rape that got less than a year sentence....
Just in the last year or so there have been half a dozen (at least) of white guys getting that amount of time. Yet I can find NO example when concerning blacks...
OK. Where did you get your data so I can comb through it?
Find one case where it happened to a black guy?
Half a dozen white Guy's in the last 2 years...
There should be one case in history for a black guy... Right??
I truly bet there isn't....
Maybe, maybe not. Can you prove that it happens to whites more than blacks? That is your claim, isn't it?
Yes, by the fact that I can find a dozen examples from the last couple years alone, but not one case involving an African American..
If I'm wrong post one...
You posted 6 random news articles.
Do you want information on rape convictions or do you want news articles?
One single case where an African American convicted of rape got 6 months or less...
Just one....
Dozens in the last few years by white guys... Just one for a black guy??
So 100% hypothetically say we had the data, and there was no case concerning an African American, but there are half dozen cases a year by white guys..would that mean anything?
I can't seem to find broad info on average sentencing. Doubt that would have it..
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: JoshuaCox
6 news articles by easily manipulated news companies shapes your opinion on this?
I'm not saying our justice system isn't flawed. In fact, there are a number of things I would like to see addressed in a reform of our criminal justice system..
However I think maybe you should find the data and form an opinion around that rather than a handful of news articles.
Fair enough, find a case that refutes it..,
I couldnt...
Hell, I bet it has never ever happened in American history....
Yet in 15 min of Google I found dozens of cases with white rapists that go off with nothing...
Refutes what?
That rapists don't always get long sentences? Sorry, but I don't look at skin color when it comes to a violent crime such as this. You're just a rapist, no matter your hue.
If you want to find some interesting data though, you should look at non-violent crime and incarceration rates. Especially concerning drug arrests.
www.aclu.org...
sentencingproject.org...
No, an example of an African American caught dead to rights and convicted of rape that got less than a year sentence....
Just in the last year or so there have been half a dozen (at least) of white guys getting that amount of time. Yet I can find NO example when concerning blacks...
OK. Where did you get your data so I can comb through it?
Find one case where it happened to a black guy?
Half a dozen white Guy's in the last 2 years...
There should be one case in history for a black guy... Right??
I truly bet there isn't....
Maybe, maybe not. Can you prove that it happens to whites more than blacks? That is your claim, isn't it?
Yes, by the fact that I can find a dozen examples from the last couple years alone, but not one case involving an African American..
If I'm wrong post one...
You posted 6 random news articles.
Do you want information on rape convictions or do you want news articles?
One single case where an African American convicted of rape got 6 months or less...
Just one....
Dozens in the last few years by white guys... Just one for a black guy??
So 100% hypothetically say we had the data, and there was no case concerning an African American, but there are half dozen cases a year by white guys..would that mean anything?
I can't seem to find broad info on average sentencing. Doubt that would have it..
So you went from posting a few news articles to "dozens"? Where is your proof? You're the one making a claim here, not me. I would love to see statistics on convictions and average sentence organized by demographic. I look forward to seeing it. Thanks!
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: JoshuaCox
6 news articles by easily manipulated news companies shapes your opinion on this?
I'm not saying our justice system isn't flawed. In fact, there are a number of things I would like to see addressed in a reform of our criminal justice system..
However I think maybe you should find the data and form an opinion around that rather than a handful of news articles.
Fair enough, find a case that refutes it..,
I couldnt...
Hell, I bet it has never ever happened in American history....
Yet in 15 min of Google I found dozens of cases with white rapists that go off with nothing...
Refutes what?
That rapists don't always get long sentences? Sorry, but I don't look at skin color when it comes to a violent crime such as this. You're just a rapist, no matter your hue.
If you want to find some interesting data though, you should look at non-violent crime and incarceration rates. Especially concerning drug arrests.
www.aclu.org...
sentencingproject.org...
No, an example of an African American caught dead to rights and convicted of rape that got less than a year sentence....
Just in the last year or so there have been half a dozen (at least) of white guys getting that amount of time. Yet I can find NO example when concerning blacks...
OK. Where did you get your data so I can comb through it?
Find one case where it happened to a black guy?
Half a dozen white Guy's in the last 2 years...
There should be one case in history for a black guy... Right??
I truly bet there isn't....
Maybe, maybe not. Can you prove that it happens to whites more than blacks? That is your claim, isn't it?
Yes, by the fact that I can find a dozen examples from the last couple years alone, but not one case involving an African American..
If I'm wrong post one...
You posted 6 random news articles.
Do you want information on rape convictions or do you want news articles?
One single case where an African American convicted of rape got 6 months or less...
Just one....
Dozens in the last few years by white guys... Just one for a black guy??
So 100% hypothetically say we had the data, and there was no case concerning an African American, but there are half dozen cases a year by white guys..would that mean anything?
I can't seem to find broad info on average sentencing. Doubt that would have it..
So you went from posting a few news articles to "dozens"? Where is your proof? You're the one making a claim here, not me. I would love to see statistics on convictions and average sentence organized by demographic. I look forward to seeing it. Thanks!
I ran across dozens of cases, not posted dozens of cases....
I can't find the statistics on sentencing, only on convictions and unreported cases...
All are like really feminist "rape culture" type sites that won't give me straight stats factoring in unconfirmed cases and such.
Guess you still haven't found a single case???
I
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: JoshuaCox
6 news articles by easily manipulated news companies shapes your opinion on this?
I'm not saying our justice system isn't flawed. In fact, there are a number of things I would like to see addressed in a reform of our criminal justice system..
However I think maybe you should find the data and form an opinion around that rather than a handful of news articles.
Fair enough, find a case that refutes it..,
I couldnt...
Hell, I bet it has never ever happened in American history....
Yet in 15 min of Google I found dozens of cases with white rapists that go off with nothing...
Refutes what?
That rapists don't always get long sentences? Sorry, but I don't look at skin color when it comes to a violent crime such as this. You're just a rapist, no matter your hue.
If you want to find some interesting data though, you should look at non-violent crime and incarceration rates. Especially concerning drug arrests.
www.aclu.org...
sentencingproject.org...
No, an example of an African American caught dead to rights and convicted of rape that got less than a year sentence....
Just in the last year or so there have been half a dozen (at least) of white guys getting that amount of time. Yet I can find NO example when concerning blacks...
OK. Where did you get your data so I can comb through it?
Find one case where it happened to a black guy?
Half a dozen white Guy's in the last 2 years...
There should be one case in history for a black guy... Right??
I truly bet there isn't....
Maybe, maybe not. Can you prove that it happens to whites more than blacks? That is your claim, isn't it?
Yes, by the fact that I can find a dozen examples from the last couple years alone, but not one case involving an African American..
If I'm wrong post one...
You posted 6 random news articles.
Do you want information on rape convictions or do you want news articles?
One single case where an African American convicted of rape got 6 months or less...
Just one....
Dozens in the last few years by white guys... Just one for a black guy??
So 100% hypothetically say we had the data, and there was no case concerning an African American, but there are half dozen cases a year by white guys..would that mean anything?
I can't seem to find broad info on average sentencing. Doubt that would have it..
So you went from posting a few news articles to "dozens"? Where is your proof? You're the one making a claim here, not me. I would love to see statistics on convictions and average sentence organized by demographic. I look forward to seeing it. Thanks!
I ran across dozens of cases, not posted dozens of cases....
I can't find the statistics on sentencing, only on convictions and unreported cases...
All are like really feminist "rape culture" type sites that won't give me straight stats factoring in unconfirmed cases and such.
Guess you still haven't found a single case???
I
It's not up to me to prove your point for you. You prove your claim.
Not sure how you expect to address any systematic racism if you can't even figure out what the systematic racism is. You can't fight ignorance with more ignorance.
What if there is actually no racial bias? You're making these claims without having any data to back it up. Why do you want to make a claim you have no reason to make, and then ask other people to prove you wrong? Why don't you prove yourself right and then maybe you can find a solution to the perceived problem?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
originally posted by: Pyrrho
a reply to: JoshuaCox
6 news articles by easily manipulated news companies shapes your opinion on this?
I'm not saying our justice system isn't flawed. In fact, there are a number of things I would like to see addressed in a reform of our criminal justice system..
However I think maybe you should find the data and form an opinion around that rather than a handful of news articles.
Fair enough, find a case that refutes it..,
I couldnt...
Hell, I bet it has never ever happened in American history....
Yet in 15 min of Google I found dozens of cases with white rapists that go off with nothing...
Refutes what?
That rapists don't always get long sentences? Sorry, but I don't look at skin color when it comes to a violent crime such as this. You're just a rapist, no matter your hue.
If you want to find some interesting data though, you should look at non-violent crime and incarceration rates. Especially concerning drug arrests.
www.aclu.org...
sentencingproject.org...
No, an example of an African American caught dead to rights and convicted of rape that got less than a year sentence....
Just in the last year or so there have been half a dozen (at least) of white guys getting that amount of time. Yet I can find NO example when concerning blacks...
OK. Where did you get your data so I can comb through it?
Find one case where it happened to a black guy?
Half a dozen white Guy's in the last 2 years...
There should be one case in history for a black guy... Right??
I truly bet there isn't....
Maybe, maybe not. Can you prove that it happens to whites more than blacks? That is your claim, isn't it?
Yes, by the fact that I can find a dozen examples from the last couple years alone, but not one case involving an African American..
If I'm wrong post one...
You posted 6 random news articles.
Do you want information on rape convictions or do you want news articles?
One single case where an African American convicted of rape got 6 months or less...
Just one....
Dozens in the last few years by white guys... Just one for a black guy??
So 100% hypothetically say we had the data, and there was no case concerning an African American, but there are half dozen cases a year by white guys..would that mean anything?
I can't seem to find broad info on average sentencing. Doubt that would have it..
So you went from posting a few news articles to "dozens"? Where is your proof? You're the one making a claim here, not me. I would love to see statistics on convictions and average sentence organized by demographic. I look forward to seeing it. Thanks!
I ran across dozens of cases, not posted dozens of cases....
I can't find the statistics on sentencing, only on convictions and unreported cases...
All are like really feminist "rape culture" type sites that won't give me straight stats factoring in unconfirmed cases and such.
Guess you still haven't found a single case???
I
It's not up to me to prove your point for you. You prove your claim.
Not sure how you expect to address any systematic racism if you can't even figure out what the systematic racism is. You can't fight ignorance with more ignorance.
What if there is actually no racial bias? You're making these claims without having any data to back it up. Why do you want to make a claim you have no reason to make, and then ask other people to prove you wrong? Why don't you prove yourself right and then maybe you can find a solution to the perceived problem?
It is impossible to prove a negative.....
I can't prove its never happened, but some one could prove it has...such as by posting a case. Lol
Obviously....