Trump’s racist attacks are creating chaos — and even his own campaign is sick of it

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
People say Trump is not racist - but he has the full support of racists - so...

Here's what I think... More than a racist, Trump is an opportunist. He's not principled enough to be a racist. He doesn't have any principles, positive or negative, he's just working for the win. He doesn't have the opinion that white people are better than Hispanics or black people, he's just taking the opportunity to appeal to ANYONE who may have some trace of racial issues or fear in their minds... And there are a LOT of those people in this country. From the mildly racist to the skinheads of our country, Trump's goal is to appeal to their fear to get their support. It doesn't have anything to do with what he thinks about other races, it has to do with what he sees as an opportunity to gain more hateful and fearful followers.

Are some of his attacks racist? Yes. They're crafted to be so (dog whistles), but it doesn't come from any principles he has about other races.

I agree with Spider. He doesn't want to be president. He wants to WIN.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

newyork.cbslocal.com...

Back in February, thought I saw it somewhere

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

I agree that the man is a narcissist. Winning comes first and foremost in all things Drumpf

But I also know the man has history

It's clear which side he comes down on. Somewhere in the recesses of that which we might refer to as Donny's mind, there is a kind of philosophy. It's been consistent

He could have chosen from so many different angles - his whistles are aimed at a specific kind of dog. Opportunist - definitely. If he's hooked on adulation only - and winning - he could have pandered to anyone. He pandered to the people he understands

The way I see it is - even if it was only tool? It was the racist tool that he chose

I find these discussions about Trump amusing, where on one side you have people who understand what it is being talked about when some may refer to him as racist, and on the other side you have Trump supporters denying he is anything of the sort.

I don't really have an opinion either way regarding my personal interpretation on what the guy says, or my interpretation of the media's interpretation of what they say he says.

I do know that most of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is such utter nonsense, from what I have heard myself, that I can't really understand how anyone would take him seriously, let alone want him to represent them in any way, or even sit and listen to such blather or defend such utter nonsense.

The guy makes so little sense that it is really difficult to determine whether he is racist or not.

originally posted by: supremecommander
a reply to: pyramid head

A landslide? You do realize that you can't win the presidency by solely winning the conservative white male vote?

Trump supporters are hilarious.

I'm a minority. It's racist to assume only "white males" have a problem with mentally Ill leftist.

People Don't want a moronic socialist or sociopath with her pedophile raping husband in the White House.

Leftist are hilarious.

a reply to: olaru12

Some people have an ego-driven personality, along with a complete disregard for what others think. They want things done their way, right or wrong.....but of course if it's their way, it's right. Give them power, they don't want to share it, unless it's to someone beholden to them or a toady.

This thing with the judge. Trump plays the race card, but it also should be seen as an indicator of something he would do as a POTUS. Some of us here are old enough to remember Richard Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre. In more recent times, or George W. Bush's dismissal of the U.S. Attorneys. (And Bush's other shameful bullying showdown in J Ashcroft's hospital room, with its aftermath.)

You might be able to loudly proclaim, "You're fired!" on a tv show or as president of a corporation, but it can't be done so easily as President. Unless you're an ego-driven bully who disregards what others think. Unless you believe a judge should be "fired", and you would do what you could, abusing your power, to make it happen.

a reply to: xuenchen

How do you know this? Not the Bernie supporters, including me in WA state, are going to vote for Trump over Hillary. The last poll I found said 69% of Bernie supporters would vote for Hillary.

a reply to: desert

I'm really conflicted in believing that Trump really believes his own BS and then thinking, he can't be that stupid not to see he is destroying the GOP. Is that his plan? If it is....it's working.

However, the neocons aren't to be ****ed with. He may have bitten off more than he can chew. But how could he not know this....I do see signs of dementia; maybe that's it.

Interesting times.....

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: olaru12

According to Trump supporters Trump has never said a single racist thing and absolutely does not cause chaos so these aides must be lying!

According to liberals and the media, EVERYTHING Trump says causes chaos, and is racist.

Wanna know why?

Because to liberals anyone who is not a liberal MUST be a racist and want to cause chaos for being in that "other" camp of people.
They don't understand that people who don't think like they do can be anything other than one or both of those things.

Remember when people said they really didn't like Obama, and right away people on the left said they must be a racist? That's because they couldn't imagine there would be anyone who couldn't like Obama since he fit the liberal perfect profile that supported all of their most beloved delusions.

There's much more, but I think at this point you can get the meaning here.

To me, what's so infuriating and retarded - that's right, I said it, retarded - is that very smart people that I know and admire are buying into Trump's ignorant and divisive bull#. It makes me cringe to hear people I care about selling out their principles when they do their mental gymnastics to try to justify the crap that comes flying out of the Donald's mouth. It's embarrassing.

I was glad to see Newt Gingrich call bull# on it and I don't even like that guy but I can concede that he is very smart. More Republicans need to do this.

But part of me wonders if it's not just all orchestrated. Because as long as Trump still has money rolling in, how can anyone of character say he doesn't speak for the party?

a reply to: olaru12

Oh, olaru, interesting times indeed!

I know what you mean, but then I think a lot of us understand the idea of BS in politics, where you have to end up compromising and working together to get things done, and the idea of BS in business, where BS is used to sell.

Big business BS is what Trump understands. He wants to close the deal. His ego cannot make him stop now. He doesn't care about the GOP, because in business his goal is to dominate the market with ruthless tactics.

It is one thing for the GOP to have an honest businessman as a candidate. Trump is a flim flam man. Trump's business is Trump, and he's always sold it for all it's worth. The GOP used him, and he used the GOP. There will be no marching bands to redeem either the GOP or the GOP's Harold Hill. They've both behaved despicably.

Re dementia. I am beginning to think that that is a real possibility. His father died from Alzheimers, and maybe there is some dementia going on. But he is so powerful. who will tell him? I don't toss around mental health impairment lightly. There is certainly a continuum of mental capabilities in senior citizens. Sure, there are "senior moments", but that is not what I think you and I are referring to.

a reply to: HoldMyBeer

I thought there was some hope for the party while Ryan was still holding out. When he caved I realized that it was all about winning - nothing more. He made a deal with the devil - and wants his goals realized. He no longer cares how that happens

I've heard more than a few conservatives say how disappointed they are - in my personal life and on the internet. It's so good to hear. If people don't want for this man to determine that this is what the GOP is all about - they need to start speaking out now. Loudly

originally posted by: desert

Re dementia. I am beginning to think that that is a real possibility. His father died from Alzheimers, and maybe there is some dementia going on. But he is so powerful. who will tell him? I don't toss around mental health impairment lightly. There is certainly a continuum of mental capabilities in senior citizens. Sure, there are "senior moments", but that is not what I think you and I are referring to.

I absolutely suspect that too. Or maybe even some artery blockage affecting the oxygen levels to his brain. My Dad has this and he is a LOT like Donald Trump. Right down to the manic social media.

www.nytimes.com...

“Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging.”

That quote is essentially the same thing Trump is saying about the judge in the Trump U case.

She got none of the media fire trump has gotten.
So is she a racist as well?

Because I'm totally gonna believe what NBC says about Donald Trump.

NBC is just a mouthpiece for the Progressive Left.

a reply to: TheBulk

Exactly.

www.washingtonpost.com...


Excerpt from a article written by :

Alberto R. Gonzales served as White House counsel and U.S. attorney general in the George W. Bush administration. He is the dean and Doyle Rogers Distinguished Professor of law at Belmont University College of Law in Nashville, Tenn. Follow @argonzales

But there may be other factors to consider in determining whether Trump’s concerns about getting an impartial trial are reasonable. Curiel is, reportedly, a member of a group called La Raza Lawyers of San Diego. Trump’s aides, meanwhile, have indicated that they believe Curiel is a member of the National Council of La Raza, a vocal advocacy organization that has vigorously condemned Trump and his views on immigration. The two groups are unaffiliated, and Curiel is not a member of NCLR. But Trump may be concerned that the lawyers’ association or its members represent or support the other advocacy organization.

Coupled with that question is the fact that in 2014, when he certified the class-action lawsuit against Trump, Curiel appointed the Robbins Geller law firm to represent plaintiffs. Robbins Geller has paid $675,000 in speaking fees since 2009 to Trump’s likely opponent, Hillary Clinton, and to her husband, former president Bill Clinton. Curiel appointed the firm in the case before Trump entered the presidential race, but again, it might not be unreasonable for a defendant in Trump’s position to wonder who Curiel favors in the presidential election. These circumstances, while not necessarily conclusive, at least raise a legitimate question to be considered. Regardless of the way Trump has gone about raising his concerns over whether he’s getting a fair trial, none of us should dismiss those concerns out of hand without carefully examining how a defendant in his position might perceive them — and we certainly should not dismiss them for partisan political reasons.

Trump did nothing wrong pointing out that he does not trust this particular judge because of his alleged affiliations. In fact it would be his duty to do so if anything else. Just like Alberto R. Gonzales explained in his article.

IF one could just only get reasonable doubt about this judge then even that would be enough to appoint another.


La Raza means "The Race"
Sounds familiar? It should, Adolf and his party talked the same way.

La Raza but i am sure all the so called progressives will not even watch the reality depicted about this La Raza movement but rather sit on their butts with their fingers in their ears going lalalalalalala while this La Raza movement threatens and explains how they will take everything away from "the whitey" "the crackah" like they do this recording.


See no evil, hear no evil.
But you will notice and feel it when (not if) it comes your way nonetheless. Room for denial will cease to exist.

a reply to: everyone

So, Trump’s aides indicated that they believe Curiel is a member of the National Council of La Raza... No proof, no facts. They just indicated that they believe something... They are wrong, by the way, as has been proven.

Not a strong position.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic


And when has this exactly been disproven because as far as i know this is still a running matter.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: olaru12

According to Trump supporters Trump has never said a single racist thing and absolutely does not cause chaos so these aides must be lying!

According to liberals and the media, EVERYTHING Trump says causes chaos, and is racist.

Are you actually closing your eyes and humming nanananana????

This isn't just Liberals...It's people who have been trying very hard to support him like Paul Ryan, Newt Gingrich et al. It's the actual leader of the GOP having to denounce Donald trump...it isn't just mainstream...it is both people like Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney as well as people like Glenn Beck, and right wing radio hosts...

It is just amazing the crazy retorts that start with "those liberals"...or the "establishment"...those calling trump on his BS span the political spectrum.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: everyone

So, Trump’s aides indicated that they believe Curiel is a member of the National Council of La Raza... No proof, no facts. They just indicated that they believe something... They are wrong, by the way, as has been proven.

Not a strong position.

And has been pointed out a dozen times now, He is in fact a member of a racially exclusive lawyers group called "The Race", which shares both a name and objectives with the National Council of La Raza.