Get Out the Aloe Vera and Cool off the Bern

Will Bernie Sanders do the right thing?

That is, will the Vermont senator accept that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton has beaten him fair and square in their race for the Democratic nomination for president and throw his enthusiastic support behind her in the race against certain Republican nominee Donald Trump?

Sanders could do the right thing and throw his full support to Clinton and the Democratic Party.

He needs to look no further than Clinton's example in 2007, when, following a hotly contested primary season, she threw her unequivocal support behind president-to-be Barack Obama. It's time for him to follow suit.

Clinton has not called on Sanders to drop out of the race even though he cannot possibly win, and has defended his right to take his campaign to the concluding primaries in New Jersey and California two weeks from Tuesday.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

That will just show that he really isn't 'anti-establishment' and is no different than Hillary.

That would resonate through his supporters and make the election a contest between establishment (Hillary) and anti-establishment (Trump).

Not that it'd be a huge difference regardless who won, but the illusion of choice is definitely shattered among many more Americans than before.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Maybe this will give Bernie's violent protesters a new target, and will focus on other Hillary voters rather than the Trump voters. Hillary is their real enemy, not Trump.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Why doesn't Clinton do the right thing and drop out.

Polls show she is virtually tied with Trump if she really cared more about the party than herself she would bow out because polls show Bernie would win the race with a comfortable margin.


Bernie shouldn't drop out IMO come August convention time polls may show she doesn't have a chance.

a reply to: DBCowboy

That will just show that he really isn't 'anti-establishment' and is no different than Hillary.

OR it would show his adversity to the ideas of Trump. Sanders cannot possibly be the next President. No way. To continue this charade is unwise, and it seems to me his ego is showing, big time.

Get real, Sanders is no chump

Hillary is going to have to "man up" and deal with the mess she's made (her entire career in politics)

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Why doesn't Clinton do the right thing and drop out.

Polls show she is virtually tied with Trump if she really cared more about the party than herself she would bow out because polls show Bernie would win the race with a comfortable margin.


Bernie shouldn't drop out IMO come August convention time polls may show she doesn't have a chance.

Oh boy. You need aloe vera Badly. He can't beat Trump, because he can't win the nomination. Even if he wins California, he can't win.

The party needs to unite. It's past time.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Him not winning to Hillary does not automatically equate to having to throw his support behind her, this is an establishment expectation and mindset.

Clinton and Sanders have vastly different fiscal, economic and government reform policies just to name a few so if he were to back her as the nominee he would be betraying himself to what he opposes and would most certainly be seen to be yielding to the establishment.

He said he will fight to the bitter end so let's see what happens.

Apparently this makes sense to everybody but Sanders.

With a week remaining before the California Democratic primary, Hillary Clinton picked up a pair of high-profile endorsements Tuesday — including one from the state’s iconic governor — while Bernie Sanders insisted that it’s still too soon to close ranks around the party’s likely nominee.

California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) argued in an “open letter” to his state’s Democrats that Clinton represents the best chance to defeat the “dangerous” candidacy of Republican Donald Trump, saying “this is no time for Democrats to keep fighting each other.”

A major national environmental group, the NRDC Action Fund, also cited Trump in its decision to back Clinton, suggesting that it was time for liberal groups to rally around her. Trump’s policies would “take us back 100 years,” the group said in a statement.

www.washingtonpost.com... 4-0724e8e24f3f_story.html

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

One isn't the other.

He could beat Trump, but the corrupt DNC probably will not give him the nomination.

I am starting to think Trump will win this election going up against Clinton.


In an election where the Ballot is Trump vs Clinton America Loses either way.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Him not winning to Hillary does not automatically equate to having to throw his support behind her, this is an establishment expectation and mindset.

Clinton and Sanders have vastly different fiscal, economic and government reform policies just to name a few so if he were to back her as the nominee he would be betraying himself to what he opposes and would most certainly be seen to be yielding to the establishment.

He said he will fight to the bitter end so let's see what happens.

Good points, indeed, but to not support her would be to throw the win to Trump, and surely he has better sense than to do that.

I adore the man actually, and I love his values. But it's time to play politics. There is no way around it. He should suspend his campaign. It's the right thing to do.

a reply to: Grimpachi

I am starting to think Trump will win this election going up against Clinton.

I'm starting to fear he can win this election no matter who his opponent is. Scary times.

Gotta love the Zombies for Hillary group.Doing their best to try and demoralize the Sander's supporters. Whats the saying ? "Its not over till its over". There are still avenues that Sanders could become the Presidential Candidate of the DNC. Or turn on Hill-Gal and run 3rd party in November. He has already proven he is a valid candidate. And with the publicity and money he has gotten from the DNC he could basically disintegrate any hope Clinton has of the White House. I know , Bernie pledged support to the candidate. But being how he is a self proclaimed socialist and independent , would that necessarily be binding ?
I would love to see that. Hopefully it would put her out of politics and public office for the rest of eternity. No more Clintoons and , with Jeb's political demise , no more Bush. Peace at last.
Just my thoughts

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Watch what happens in Cali on Tuesday. When Clinton steals that primary it'll be so patently obvious that even the most ardent man hating Clinton supporter will cringe.

I don't think Bernie and his supporters are really all about being "up" with and for the Democrat party. I'd guess they see it as corrupt as the other party.

My hope is Bernie takes it to the convention floor and his supporters turn the convention upside down.

But.................probably won't happen.

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
a reply to: Grimpachi

I am starting to think Trump will win this election going up against Clinton.

I'm starting to fear he can win this election no matter who his opponent is. Scary times.

It does matter who. That is the point.

Clinton never should have ran last time or this time.

Even if Trump wins the RNC will implode and if Clinton loses the DNC will implode. No matter which one wins out of those two it is bad for US. The destruction of those two parties will be good for US in the future.

a reply to: Gothmog

Those are pleasant thoughts.

One can only hope.

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting


That is, will the Vermont senator accept that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton has beaten him fair and square in their race for the Democratic nomination for president and throw his enthusiastic support behind her in the race against certain Republican nominee Donald Trump?

I have a problem with the fair and square comment. It doesn't take a political insider to see the system was rigged against Bernie from the start. Everything from media coverage to the debate schedule to rules being changed at conventions was set up to benefit Hillary. Not to mention the almost insurmountable super delegates that pledged from Hillary right from the get go.

I am sure he hates Trump's ideas and will be tempted to support the quintessential establishment candidate in Hillary over him, but if I had his ear I would remind him that until he and others stand up to this cronyism nothing will ever change.

That is, will the Vermont senator accept that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton has beaten him fair and square in their race

That's just it though.

She DIDN'T beat him fair and square.

A) She hasn't reached the required number of delegates yet

B) There are PROVEN instances of her cheating to win at least some (if not all) of the delegates she's won to date. By proven, I mean actual video showcasing Bernie voters basically being ignored during a caucus, etc.

Look, I'm not a fan of Bernie.
But I am still disgusted at the WAY Clinton and her people have done this to the system.

I said all along that the anger of Bernie voters should be pointed at Clinton, not Trump. They didn't listen to me or anyone else who tried to tell them that. Well, now they can lay in it.... Made their own mess.

And the majority of them are Bernie or Bust...meaning if Bern doesn't get the nom, they'll simply not vote for anyone.
So if Clinton is counting on their support, she's very mistaken.....

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

....My hope is Bernie takes it to the convention floor and his supporters turn the convention upside down.

And then torch the place.
Bern it down to the ground and smash up all of the Mercedes in the parking lot.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

What you are asking is for millions of people to support someone that they really cannot stand. I say let Sanders take it to the convention. Let him burn it down. It needs to change anyway. Both sides do. I feel about the same way with Trump. Sometimes you have to burn down a lot of trees to save the forest.

Remember the PUMA's? Seems they have rebranded...

Telling people they should just shut up and "fall in line" does not sit well with me personally.