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originally posted by: cooperton
No one is saying science isn't real. It is the deluded leaders of the theoretical faithwork of science that are the problem. They tout theory as fact and excommunicate anyone who disagrees.
originally posted by: GetHyped
You posted a bizarre attempt to reconcile religious scripture with your own misunderstandings of animal biology prefaced with some mumbo jumbo that also manages to deny pretty much all of the fields of natural science.
BO XIAN, these are your bedfellows. Enjoy!
originally posted by: BO XIAN
The RELIGIOUS FERVOR that CHARACTERIZES personal, group and institutionalized BELIEFS about science and the topics of science--the RELIGIOUS FERVOR, religious habits, religious strategies, religious memes, religious dynamics etc. USED BY THE LEADERS of scientific institutions are the issue.
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: cooperton
No one says theory is fact except for you all to set up the strawman. Theory is an explanation, one that is supported by observation and experiments that can be reproduced that are then peer reviewed.
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
Evolution is a fact. If you are unwilling to learn about it, thats fine. But dont spread lies.
Evolution is FACT.
originally posted by: peter vlar
genetics seals the deal here. Evolution is a fact.
originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: cooperton
Classic, we've stooped straight into science denial! Exactly as expected.
The irony of decrying science as a religion when you instead deny science in favor of fundamentalist religion is not lost on you.
originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: cooperton
Anyone can click through your posting history on the Origins & Creationism forum to see how far you bend logic to deny science.
No one is saying science isn't real. It is the deluded leaders of the theoretical faithwork of science that are the problem. They tout theory as fact and excommunicate anyone who disagrees.
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
Who are the "leaders"? There may indeed be a problem with the leadership and the development of cult-like attitudes but that is a problem of humans and human corruption rather than inherent to science itself.
Some measure of "faith" in science is necessary for the population at large because the alternative is beyond feasible. Some people can barely write coherent sentences using their primary language, let alone develop a complex and near-perfect understanding of all aspects of "science" ranging from genetic modification to quantum mechanics.
The problem we once again will ultimately run into is that if you define science as a religion than the paradigm shifts from all religions being ultimately equal to one religion being clearly superior, standing over all others. (Science.)
The difference between science and (for instance) Christianity is that science gives you the internet and Christianity gives you a man who is not a man but may or may not actually be the son of God yet also God as well as an ambiguous third entity that died approximately two thousand years ago to absolve you of sins there is no way of measuring or otherwise perceiving until after death inherited from the first human created by a God that has not revealed any obvious signs as to Its ambiguous presence while having many ascribed characteristics that contain fundamental logical contradictions. There are also hundreds of other religions with similarities and dissimilarities that also claim to be the one true interpretation.
Yes, but the promised land on earth for those who unveil the secrets of the words of the Living God are much more grandiose than any human-made technology.
(the religion of) Science tells you it's the best and shows you why it's the best by giving you essentially all of human civilization.
The majority of religions just tell you they're the best and leave it at that.
Any possible results are typically only observable after death, which is useless and irrelevant.
Threats of punishment if you do not follow them are also common.
Generally we do this to make us feel important in the grand scheme of things - a scheme that may or may not even exist.
originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: BO XIAN
No not trying to ban anything, not trying to censor you.
You're free to rant all the ignorant nonsense that you wish.
Please continue as I find it entertaining, I just ask that you take your delusional posting to the proper forum.
The Science & Technology forum is for the discussion of exactly that, science & technology not useless religulous fantasy visions of conspiracy.
K~
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
Science allows me to build my own destiny based on my personal research and achievements.
originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: Nochzwei
absolutely, that is an illustration of the ops point though and WHY I stated it doesn't PROVE time dilation, merely supports it. All it REALLY shows is that when close to a source of gravity, the oscillation frequency of the atom changes.
The fact that many BELIEVE that it PROVES time dilation, is EXACTLY what the op is talking about. That includes MANY scientists BTW...
Jaden