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originally posted by: Sargeras
a reply to: Dark Ghost
Glad I'm in America, where I might get fired, but I can't be charged criminally for "offending " others.
America's Future? Canadian Man Faces Jail Time for Disagreeing with Feminists
A Canadian man, Gregory Elliott, faces six months in jail for having a disagreement with feminists on Twitter. He has been charged with criminal harassment.
The case involves two feminists (originally it was three) who claim they were harassed in 2012 by Elliott on Twitter. They are currently in court in Toronto. One of the complainants, Stephanie Guthrie, met with Elliott three years ago to interview him about working for her organization "Women in TO politics." But according to The Toronto Star, Guthrie was "creeped out" by the man and said he was "really intense" and so she decided not to hire him.
Court documents show that the two remained cordial through e-mail correspondence after their meeting and also continued their casual relationship via social media for almost 10 months. But things took a turn when Guthrie went after an online video game that allowed players to virtually punch the face of a feminist blogger. She joined other feminists who made it clear they wanted to publicly shame the game's creator. Guthrie had written on Twitter: “I want his hatred on the Internet to impact his real-life experience."
Seeing this message, Elliott reacted creating the hashtag #FascistFeminists and attacked their viewpoints, without once being threatening or violent. Yet, he was arrested in November of 2012, fired from his job, and now faces jail time.
In court this last week, Guthrie rolled her eyes during cross-examination by Elliott's attorney who asked about her "left-leaning politics." He then asked, "Why would you roll your eyes at a trial where my client faces serious charges of criminal harassment?" She said she didn't see the relevancy of such a question.
originally posted by: Robbiem72
a reply to: Dark Ghost
I am an Australian an unfortunately if you say the tiniest thing that may be negative against Aborigines you could be arrested, essentialy si,milar to North American Indians, the state feels guity about their treatment
originally posted by: Winstonian
a reply to: Dark Ghost
There are already tons of countries with speech laws. Look at what Facebook,Microsoft,Twitter, and Youtube just did with the EU. Removal of hate speech within 24 hours.
The SJW's will love this, as they are a huge reason stuff like this is even able to happen. Now the different "officials" and "authorities" will start classifying all kinds of different viewpoints as "hate speech."
Now that the can of worms is open, the lid will never go back on.
Free speech is the most important right that we all MUST defend.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: TheLaughingGod
It's not my country - I don't live there.
My country is America, and the only way you would get arrested for hate speech here is if you are inciting violence against an individual or group. I'm happy with the hate speech law as it is in my country.
originally posted by: syrinx high priest
so apparently this is part of a cyber crime legislation and carries a maximum penalty of 3 years in prison
The maximum penalty for using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence is 3 years imprisonment
Council of Europe Convention on Cybercrime
Legislation The Cybercrime Legislation Amendment Act 2011 commenced on 12 September 2012. The main purpose of the Act was to facilitate Australia’s accession to the Council of Europe Convention on Cybercrime. The Act also amended the Criminal Code offences to ensure consistency with the Conventions.
originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: TheLaughingGod
The racist man wasn't arrested for disagreeing with the woman he called out. He was arrested for posting his racist comments on social media. Apparently there's a law in Australia that says public social media cannot be used to post racist comments. If the man broke this law, he should expect to be punished, just as if he violated any other law. I'm not saying it's a good law. I'm just saying it IS a law, apparently.
originally posted by: Kalixi
a reply to: Dark Ghost
Australia doesn't have Freedom of Speech but has a law which prevents it called Section 18C. Basically you can't bag someones race or ethnicity. It only applies to minorities and not white people.
originally posted by: Kalixi
originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: TheLaughingGod
The racist man wasn't arrested for disagreeing with the woman he called out. He was arrested for posting his racist comments on social media. Apparently there's a law in Australia that says public social media cannot be used to post racist comments. If the man broke this law, he should expect to be punished, just as if he violated any other law. I'm not saying it's a good law. I'm just saying it IS a law, apparently.
No, you can't post or SAY, or write or draw anything deemed offensive with Austtalian Laws. There was a Historian arrested for questioning facts surrounding the Holocaust as in how many people from where. His book was banned and I believe he was locked up for 3 years.
originally posted by: supremecommander
originally posted by: CB328
This is crazy, but unfortunately I could see this happening here in the US.
A lot of people fear that hate crime laws are just a first step in that direction.
What is there to fear? Treat your fellow man as you would want to be treated yourself and you'll never have a problem with hate crime or hate speech laws.
originally posted by: everyone
originally posted by: Sargeras
a reply to: Dark Ghost
Glad I'm in America, where I might get fired, but I can't be charged criminally for "offending " others.
www.truthrevolt.org...
America's Future? Canadian Man Faces Jail Time for Disagreeing with Feminists
A Canadian man, Gregory Elliott, faces six months in jail for having a disagreement with feminists on Twitter. He has been charged with criminal harassment.
The case involves two feminists (originally it was three) who claim they were harassed in 2012 by Elliott on Twitter. They are currently in court in Toronto. One of the complainants, Stephanie Guthrie, met with Elliott three years ago to interview him about working for her organization "Women in TO politics." But according to The Toronto Star, Guthrie was "creeped out" by the man and said he was "really intense" and so she decided not to hire him.
Court documents show that the two remained cordial through e-mail correspondence after their meeting and also continued their casual relationship via social media for almost 10 months. But things took a turn when Guthrie went after an online video game that allowed players to virtually punch the face of a feminist blogger. She joined other feminists who made it clear they wanted to publicly shame the game's creator. Guthrie had written on Twitter: “I want his hatred on the Internet to impact his real-life experience."
Seeing this message, Elliott reacted creating the hashtag #FascistFeminists and attacked their viewpoints, without once being threatening or violent. Yet, he was arrested in November of 2012, fired from his job, and now faces jail time.
In court this last week, Guthrie rolled her eyes during cross-examination by Elliott's attorney who asked about her "left-leaning politics." He then asked, "Why would you roll your eyes at a trial where my client faces serious charges of criminal harassment?" She said she didn't see the relevancy of such a question.
originally posted by: supremecommander
a reply to: LordDraconia
Sorry, but the world is changing.
You will not be given a free pass for racism and sexism.
Deal with it.
So you'd want to punch a woman in her face?
This speaks VOLUMES about the entitlement mentality amongst a small sect of white males.
So aboriginal people being second class is okay to you though?