Police Called After Transphobic Preacher Trolls Teens Outside High School

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: shooterbrody

She wasn't arrested though. The cop just merely escorts her back to her car. So what rights of hers were violated?

If she wanted to stay and "protest" her rights were violated. I dont know what she wanted, all i know is that on the sidewalk near the school as shown in the video she should have had the right to peaceably protest.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Cops ARE allowed to tell you to move along though, regardless of what you are doing. Loitering can be an offense.

I mean, we've all dealt with traffic cops before, you should know that a cop can think of tons of charges that he can charge you with that you aren't aware you are breaking. He'd never even have to mention her speech and right to protest.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

protesting is not loitering
cops using loitering laws to stifle protests is not a good thing
the kind of cops your talking about shouldnt be cops

I dont know what the local laws and ordinances are in this situation but if you changed the protester to someone protesting for trans rights I would bet you would be on the side of freedom of speech

a reply to: shooterbrody

I'm on the side of comedy here. This lady is dumb and stupid and did something dumb and stupid. Thus I am laughing at it. It just so happens that her political ideals make it a bit more funny for me because of where my politics align, but I assure you I am really just laughing at her. Her remarks about smoking pot being worse than worshiping the devil are among the funniest and dumbest for instance.

No self respecting preacher would list pot above devil worship.

a reply to: Hazardous1408


I'm glad he is so concerned, but his attempts are badly planned and executed.

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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: shooterbrody

Where I'm at, schools are definitely not public property. Being owned by the state or county does not make something "public property."

sidewalks are generally public property

While I think the person in the video is an idiot; idiots have the same right to free speech as anyone else.

The United States Constitution explicitly provides for 'the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances' in the First Amendment.

Common constraints on the right to assemble are a class of time, place and manner regulations. A second type of constraint is the requirement to obtain a permit, where coordination may be needed to ensure public safety.

Sidewalks on privately owned property are privately owned property.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: TinfoilTP

There is no "right to protest." That "right" is contrived from freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.

Both of which have limitations on them.

Tell that to the Trump trespassers, this lady is tame by comparison.

Are they ATS members? Would you like to me u2u them?

If not, your comment is really nothing more "our nutjobs aren't as bad as their nutjobs." Oh, okay.

Pretend there is not a laundry list of members who have posted in support of people who trespass and disrupt Trump events, I don't care, this stuff is pure gold.

Posting in support of something and actually doing something are two completely different things.

And honestly, the whole "we can't talk about this because somewhere along the line somebody on the other side of the political aisle/your country/my country/whatever did something similar and that means we can never discuss this again" is one of the most intellectually weak and lazy approaches to discussion I've ever witnessed.

Sadly, it seems to be pretty go-to for many on ATS.

That's gold, to me.

Your post reads,

Wanting to have it both ways, or in liberal parlance if we do it then it is for your own good but if you do it you are a racist phobic animal.

Ahhh the casual dismissal. Classier and classier man.

It's mind boggling how I can be called a liberal in one thread and a right wing boot licker in another thread.

Perhaps you should try debate without the rhetoric sometime. I think the OP would happily attest that I'm certainly not a liberal.

Thanks for playing.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Public school on private property?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TinfoilTP

So you think that her actions were in good taste then?

She wasn't throwing rocks,. destroying property or trespassing. So, compared to the typical liberal it was down right classy.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TinfoilTP

So you think that her actions were in good taste then?

She wasn't throwing rocks,. destroying property or trespassing. So, compared to the typical liberal it was down right classy.

Typical liberal? How many liberals have you met that threw rocks, trespassed, or destroyed property? Or are you just quoting media rhetoric?

nvm

Poor form.

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: shooterbrody

Where I'm at, schools are definitely not public property. Being owned by the state or county does not make something "public property."

sidewalks are generally public property

While I think the person in the video is an idiot; idiots have the same right to free speech as anyone else.

The United States Constitution explicitly provides for 'the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances' in the First Amendment.

Common constraints on the right to assemble are a class of time, place and manner regulations. A second type of constraint is the requirement to obtain a permit, where coordination may be needed to ensure public safety.

Sidewalks on privately owned property are privately owned property.

no always true
sidewalks near roads are usually on easements which are public property

a reply to: TheBulk

The typical liberal doesn't do any of those things. Ridiculous fringe liberals. I mean come one there was less than 100 anti trump protestors at that rally. In a city of how many? Nothing typical about it. It's a fraction of a fraction of a percentage.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Who has actually stated that removing someone from trashing a cop car is denying free speech? Or did you just make that up ?

Anyone using violence when prostesting should be arrested and charged accordingly. 99% of liberals would agree.

Mod note:

Please re-read the OP of this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Notice that nowhere is this political, but rather on a religious tone and more in the category of the Conspiracies in Religion forum.

Please comment accordingly.

(as always, do not reply to this post)

Ah yes,,,,transphobic...another term for a bat # crazy woman...really didn't need a dictionary to figure that word out after I read the article.
Cheers

a reply to: Krazysh0t

"I'm going to this sidewalk, to use my freedom of speech!"

Haha

originally posted by: zilebeliveunknown
a reply to: Shamrock6

Public school on private property?

Yep. The courthouse is owned by the county, but you can't go in the courthouse and start screaming at people can you?

"Public property" does not automatically equate to "anybody can do whatever the hell they want here." It means the property is owned by a public entity. A school CAN be open to the general public. "Can be" is not the same as "is."