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Today’s university accommodation is often more hotel than squat, with en-suite bathrooms and wifi as standard. Recently, students have dropped their preoccupation with double beds, dishwashers and twice-weekly cleaners and have begun to focus instead on who they share their halls of residence with. Students who apply to the University of Birmingham and request LGBT-only accommodation can be housed away from their straight classmates. Now, students at the University of York and the University of Central Lancashire want LGBT-only accommodation, too.
The growing demand for LGBT dorms in the UK parallels an increased demand on US college campuses for ‘racially themed dorms’ so that black students can live away from their white colleagues. In the wave of protests against racism that swept US colleges late last year, the call for racially separated spaces on campus was made repeatedly. The University of California, Berkeley already has ‘self-segregated housing for African-Americans as well as other racial minorities’, while students at University of California, Los Angeles have requested the creation of a separate ‘Afro-house’ residence for black students.
Today, identity politics is so dominant that talk of expanding universalism appears hopelessly old-fashioned. The current generation of students scorn the notion of equality because they believe people only have interests in common with others who, at the most basic level, look like them. It is assumed that people with different skin colour, gender or sexuality experience the world in a qualitatively different way, and can neither speak about, nor on behalf of, each other. Worse, different groups of people are pitched against each other, as if the very existence of some groups, particularly white straight men, is a source of oppression.
I think all this segregation is probably a good idea. I am not interested in these people who just want to crawl off into their little holes where they can be truly ‘who they are’. Who they are is of no concern to me. People who are always looking for ‘safety’ and ‘identity’ are just tedious. They are not worth knowing. They are dull, predictable and lacking in any kind of creative thinking that is not about themselves. They have nothing to contribute to society. I am all in favour of segregating the boring and infantile people of the world.
I am interested in people who are making an impact on the society, who stimulate thought and with whom you can have a decent discussion. All these people do is take up oxygen. They do not truly want to be involved in life.
They might like to call the rest of society racist or homophobic but we just do not like them and surely even they would agree that all human beings are free to associate with whoever they like. If you want to be accepted in society then be something more than the colour of your skin or your sexuality. Be a person that society is delighted by.
originally posted by: Morrad
Students who apply to the University of Birmingham and request LGBT-only accommodation can be housed away from their straight classmates.
originally posted by: Tsubaki
What's the problem with letting gays have the option to stay with other gays? It's not like they are demanding their own college campus or something. Just out of curiosity, what problems would this cause?
originally posted by: In4ormant
originally posted by: Tsubaki
What's the problem with letting gays have the option to stay with other gays? It's not like they are demanding their own college campus or something. Just out of curiosity, what problems would this cause?
It's the irony of asking for their own segregated locations while actively promoting inclusion to everyone else.
You do see this right?
originally posted by: Tsubaki
originally posted by: In4ormant
originally posted by: Tsubaki
What's the problem with letting gays have the option to stay with other gays? It's not like they are demanding their own college campus or something. Just out of curiosity, what problems would this cause?
It's the irony of asking for their own segregated locations while actively promoting inclusion to everyone else.
You do see this right?
Inclusion of everyone to what? To be gay? Or are you saying liberal and gay are synonymous? Those are separate things...
originally posted by: In4ormant
Inclusion and equality is their soapbox. Don't muddy things here. The word is hypocrite. You can't champion equality and inclusion for ALL people whether it be bathrooms, restaurants, schools, buses , water fountains etc. and then say that you want your own segregated space that is only for your group.
Is this really that hard for you to see?
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
WOW just f'n wow!
Gay and black only classes next?
And these idiots want free education? lol!!
They don't deserve anything free, make them pay for it. Dumbasses.
originally posted by: IShotMyLastMuse
a reply to: Tsubaki
the problems are mainly subtle:
by normalizing these "safe spaces" for, like in your example gay people, over time you will create the assumption that they NEED that protection because all heterosexual people hate or judge them.
some people truly are oppressed or marginalized, most others, just think they are because they rather blame "the system" than their own mediocrity, immaturity or personal failings. creating these safe spaces can very well increase the number of people that want just want everyone else to give them a free pass, as well as give a preconceived notion to people who just aren't that informed and are seeing these systems for the first time, i mean if you never heard about this at all, and i brought you suddenly to a college where gay people have an area dedicated to them, wouldn't you just assume "well i guess EVERYONE must hate them, so this way they are protected"
After all in a truly equal society there should be no boundaries, be it artificial or self imposed.
the moment you create a boundary, you are also identifying yourself as "the other/the different"...and i thought social justice warriors were against inequalities?
originally posted by: Tsubaki
originally posted by: In4ormant
Inclusion and equality is their soapbox. Don't muddy things here. The word is hypocrite. You can't champion equality and inclusion for ALL people whether it be bathrooms, restaurants, schools, buses , water fountains etc. and then say that you want your own segregated space that is only for your group.
Is this really that hard for you to see?
That would be hypocritical, however, I still think you are confusing being gay with being a liberal.
There are conservative gays. Is inclusion and equality their soapbox as well?
Maybe this is a reason? Or this?
Im genuinely curious what negative effect this would have on anyone that's not gay, and more importantly, why does anyone thats not gay care?
originally posted by: Tsubaki
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
WOW just f'n wow!
Gay and black only classes next?
And these idiots want free education? lol!!
They don't deserve anything free, make them pay for it. Dumbasses.
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