Clinton: '[Trump] could bankrupt America like he's bankrupted his companies'

a reply to: jimmyx

It's valid to have questions.

It becomes a witch hunt when facts are distorted to fit an agenda. The many falsehoods and exaggerations in this thread are indeed a witch hunt, and are not factual representations of his business dealings.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Indigo5

Looks like a witch hunt to me.

so what?......call it anything you want, I want to know how this guy handles his money, along with his business dealings, since this is the ONLY thing we have to go on....he hasn't even been elected to a city council seat, and yet you think he is qualified to be the next president of the United States?

Shouldn't you be at least so demanding of the Clintons?

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Profusion

Lol @ thinking anyone is a better businessman than Trump...

A New York judge ruled Tuesday that a fraud lawsuit brought by the New York attorney general against Donald Trump and his real estate school will go to trial, setting up a potentially unprecedented situation that could feature the Republican presidential front-runner taking the stand.

www.wsj.com...

Not to mention the brewing scandal around his Veteran Fundraiser...

He is a con artist, plain and simple.

...........and Hillary is the bastion of honesty.

It is not an A/B decision..

One is a crappy option..

The other is not qualified to be an option...

It is not the left that is explaining this...it is the sane wing of the Conservative Party..

From the Weekly Standard

“If you aren’t for Trump, then you’re for Clinton” is a cheap rhetorical ploy.

I’d write that any thinking adult would be ashamed for falling for that kind of sixth-grade debater’s stratagem, but a Republican electorate capable of choosing Donald Trump as its standard-bearer is incapable of shame.

The angry insistence — him or her! — is, for the moment, mainly an attempt to forestall further criticism of Trump.

That criticism consists of stating a fact that is not a matter of degree but a binary proposition, a yes/no question.

It is not that Trump is less mentally stable than Mrs. Clinton (probably true) or that he is more dishonest than Mrs. Clinton (difficult to say) or that he might do even more damage to the republic, or any other point of comparison between the candidates.

The issue, instead, is this: Donald Trump is unfit for the office.

He is unfit for any office, morally and intellectually.

A man who could suggest, simply because it is convenient, that his opponent’s father had something to do with the assassination of President Kennedy is unfit for any position of public responsibility.

His long litany of lies — which include fabrications about everything from his wealth to self-funding his campaign — is disqualifying.

His low character is disqualifying.

His personal history is disqualifying.

His complete, utter, total, and lifelong lack of honor is disqualifying.

The fact that he is going to have to take time out of the convention to appear in court to hear a pretty convincing fraud case against him is disqualifying.

His time on Jeffrey Epstein’s Pedophile Island, after which he boasted about sharing a taste with Epstein for women “on the younger side,” is disqualifying.

The fact that he knows less about our constitutional order than does a not-especially-bright Rappahannock River oyster is disqualifying.

There isn’t anything one can say about Mrs. Clinton, monster though she is, that changes any of that.

Donald Trump is not fit to serve as president.
He is not fit to serve on the Meade County board of commissioners.
He is not fit to be the mayor of Muleshoe, Texas.

www.nationalreview.com...

a reply to: Indigo5....


Care to take the time to dissect that quote, and apply rational logic, comparing each part to either of the Clintons and Obama?

a reply to: Indigo5

The problem is that no matter how bad his character is and no matter how many lies he is caught in he has tapped into the bastion of voters that do not care. They lap up his every word and it doesn't matter because he's a reality tv show star and a successful businessman.

a reply to: jimmyx

Yep. He has been sidestepping the tax return issue the entire campaign.

a reply to: Joecanada11

What does a tax return tell you? Each candidate has already submitted information on their finances and there is a trail for donations/contributions.

This is nothing but a talking point and means nothing.....and, if he is undercutting his taxes then maybe he can help our country instead of spending and spending and spending....

a reply to: Indigo5

That's funny. Your bolded text could refer to Bill Clinton, and he was elected POTUS.......twice...... despite being the most morally bankrupted prez ever.

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: jimmyx

Yep. He has been sidestepping the tax return issue the entire campaign.

Hate to burst your bubble, but showing your tax returns is not a requirement to become POTUS. Just ask Ronald Regan, who won in a landslide his first term and never released his tax returns during the GOP nominating process. Is releasing the transcripts of your paid speeches to Wall Street a requirement?

a reply to: UnBreakable

He should release them as everyone in the last forty years has. And yes Hillary should release her transcripts as well.

Everyone hammered Romney to release his. When he finally did, they showed him using legal offshore tax shelters, and all the people with less than $1 million in cash were pizzed off. Same will happen if Trump shows that he's smart enough to take advantage of the benefits that the IRS affords all Americans, if they work hard/smart enough to become wealthy.

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: UnBreakable

He should release them as everyone in the last forty years has. And yes Hillary should release her transcripts as well.

I agree. Trump should release his taxes. Every other candidate for decades past has. That being said, any lawyer would advise against the necessity of doing it. It would only be for public consumption, like I said, it's not a law.

a reply to: carewemust

Right. It's all about hard work and being smart. Has nothing to do with stepping on others and taking advantage. Trump made comments about how he was happy when the economy tanked because he made money off those that had to sell off everything to survive.

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: carewemust

Right. It's all about hard work and being smart. Has nothing to do with stepping on others and taking advantage. Trump made comments about how he was happy when the economy tanked because he made money off those that had to sell off everything to survive.

I'm having a hard time envisioning Donald Trump making the rounds at Estate Sales, buying used chandeliers and golf clubs. But if he says that we he did, I guess that makes him even more down-to-earth.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Indigo5

Geez. He only had 4 bankruptcies out of hundreds of business ventures.

That is hardly using bankruptcy as the basis to make a fortune.

Are you lying or confused?

Trump Steaks, Trump Travel, Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump Board Game, Trump Magazine, Trump University, Trump Ice Water, Tour De Trump, The Trump network (Vitamin Pyramid Scheme), Trump New Media...and that's all before you even get to his 4 bankruptcies in casinos...how the hell do you fail at running a casino? Four times?

Can you please list his successes?...or his 100's of business ventures? Sure he owns some golf courses and real estate with mixed returns..

But hundreds of business ventures?? Cuz as far as I can tell...apart from inheritance and real estate...everything he has tried has been complete crap.

Dude, you really have to do some real research on Trump.

Just saying stuff that's not true about him, is just pathetic.

Obviously you have to do it yourself because you won't believe anything that doesn't make him out to be as incompetent as hillary.

originally posted by: matafuchs
Actually lets look at the OP...Trump will bankrupt? Uh, we are bankrupt. Not even sure where the argument here is. No one in their right mind would want to take this on. The choice should be who is better suited to move the country forward and OUT of a 20 trillion dollar debt. It is a black and white choice....

obama already had the USA's credit rating drop from AAA to AA+.

en.wikipedia.org...

S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time

By Zachary A. Goldfarb

August 6, 2011 Standard & Poor’s announced Friday night that it has downgraded the U.S. credit rating for the first time, dealing a symbolic blow to the world’s economic superpower in what was a sharply worded critique of the American political system. Lowering the nation’s rating to one notch below AAA, the credit rating company said “political brinkmanship” in the debate over the debt had made the U.S. government’s ability to manage its finances “less stable, less effective and less predictable.” It said the bipartisan agreement reached this week to find at least $2.1 trillion in budget savings “fell short” of what was necessary to tame the nation’s debt over time and predicted that leaders would not be likely to achieve more savings in the future. “It’s always possible the rating will come back, but we don’t think it’s coming back anytime soon,” said David Beers, head of S&P’s government debt rating unit.

www.washingtonpost.com...

abcnews.go.com...

a reply to: carewemust

Are you kidding? Estate sales? No he doesn't have to go to estate sales. Apparently you have no problem with him taking advantage of those hit hard by the financial blunders of wall street.

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: Indigo5

The problem is that no matter how bad his character is and no matter how many lies he is caught in he has tapped into the bastion of voters that do not care. They lap up his every word and it doesn't matter because he's a reality tv show star and a successful businessman.

Oh yeah!

Did someone mention lies?

Trump has the wherewithal to reorganize a losing biz, not throw good money after bad like a lefty/progressive/dem would do.

hillary has no clue how to run a biz anyway and it's her ignorance that's making the mistake of yelling fire in a crowded theater.

Did I say ignorance? I meant stupidity, sorry.

Did I really mean stupidity? I think she is just doing what comes naturally to her, lying!!

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Indigo5

Geez. He only had 4 bankruptcies out of hundreds of business ventures.

That is hardly using bankruptcy as the basis to make a fortune.

Are you lying or confused?

Trump Steaks, Trump Travel, Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump Board Game, Trump Magazine, Trump University, Trump Ice Water, Tour De Trump, The Trump network (Vitamin Pyramid Scheme), Trump New Media...and that's all before you even get to his 4 bankruptcies in casinos...how the hell do you fail at running a casino? Four times?

Can you please list his successes?...or his 100's of business ventures? Sure he owns some golf courses and real estate with mixed returns..

But hundreds of business ventures?? Cuz as far as I can tell...apart from inheritance and real estate...everything he has tried has been complete crap.

All those ventures failed, he didn't declare chapter 11. You listed about a dozen that didn't make it. Are you going to list the 500+ that did? I thought not. 80% of small business startups fail. People take chances. Some are successful, most aren't. Let's hear about all your business ventures. I'll hold my breath.