Witness Reports Helicopter 'escorting' cigar UFO

originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: BO XIAN

It is fascinating how slavishly some folks seemingly MUST mush the observations into their own constructions on reality.

You could apply your own words above to pretty much all of your own posts/observations!

It's true that we all incorporate, accommodate new information into our older constructions on reality.

IF WE DIDN'T we would HAVE to change our original constructions on reality. There aren't a lot of options. There may be degrees of change but not a lot of options--either one changes their world view or one doesn't, when confronted with new information.

That phenomenon is not what I was referring to.

I was referring to a rather closed-minded, blind, narrow, rigid, tidy-little-boxed sort of overwhelming compulsion to shove things, shoe-horn things into a presumed tidy little box even when doing so doesn't really fit the evidence or the facts.

You are welcome to construe me as doing so. I have a very different view--as do ALL the many who have lived with me as housemates and roommates--as well as my bosses and co-workers.

originally posted by: pryingopen3rdeye
a reply to: BO XIAN

i witnessed a ufo at portland international airport once, it was brief lasting all of 2 seconds, i was passenger in a vehicle driving by the airport when i saw something dart rapidly from ground to clouds straight up, it took 2 seconds for it to get from ground to cloud level out of sight, i was stunned,

couldnt make out much shape, could have been a disc, or a ball, had a very small profile

it originated right from the area of the Portland Air National Guard Base, which is right next to the airport

THANKS much for your personal experience report.

Did you have any emotional sensations that seemed to be keyed to the sighting?

I will ask him again. So many times I have asked him to come here. He could cover so many subjects. So many people believe a scientist wouldnt believe in a Living God, but his reseasch had lead him directly back to God. He would be a perfeft candidate for Ask me anything. He was also the recipient of one of Intels first three chips. He built a PC around it. One of the first on the planet. It made headlines here. A whole section of the paper. That was the 70s... And just for the hell of it, Ill throw this in. He was personal friends of Harlan Sanders. They never ordered chicken when they ate together..... Isnt that funny stuff?

I remember a lesson he taught some years ago included 9-11. It went all the way back to George Washington, and wall street, and the Dutch, and the little church at ground zero. He, as a research scientist had so much information, it overwhelmed people. He got into everything. even the type of tree and what God said. I have pages of notes here somewhere. I really wanted him to present that one on ATS

originally posted by: visitedbythem
I will ask him again. So many times I have asked him to come here. He could cover so many subjects. So many people believe a scientist wouldnt believe in a Living God, but his reseasch had lead him directly back to God. He would be a perfeft candidate for Ask me anything. He was also the recipient of one of Intels first three chips. He built a PC around it. One of the first on the planet. It made headlines here. A whole section of the paper. That was the 70s... And just for the hell of it, Ill throw this in. He was personal friends of Harlan Sanders. They never ordered chicken when they ate together..... Isnt that funny stuff?

He sounds like quite a guy.

IF he's more comfortable filtering questions and answers through you vs an AMA, that would be understandable. Either way--I'm keenly interested in picking his brain.

Thanks tons for even considering it.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
I remember a lesson he taught some years ago included 9-11. It went all the way back to George Washington, and wall street, and the Dutch, and the little church at ground zero. He, as a research scientist had so much information, it overwhelmed people. He got into everything. even the type of tree and what God said. I have pages of notes here somewhere. I really wanted him to present that one on ATS

So what does he think of the book

THE HARBINGER by Cahn?

And Jacques Vallee's books?

And Chuck Missler's videos?

Who are his favorite speakers, writers on such topics?

originally posted by: BO XIAN

originally posted by: visitedbythem
I remember a lesson he taught some years ago included 9-11. It went all the way back to George Washington, and wall street, and the Dutch, and the little church at ground zero. He, as a research scientist had so much information, it overwhelmed people. He got into everything. even the type of tree and what God said. I have pages of notes here somewhere. I really wanted him to present that one on ATS

So what does he think of the book

THE HARBINGER by Cahn?

And Jacques Vallee's books?

And Chuck Missler's videos?

He did talk about the Harbinger. He loved that book I think he agreed with it. Im not sure about the others, but he likely knows about them. He reads constantly

Who are his favorite speakers, writers on such topics?

a reply to: visitedbythem

Perhaps your reply got lost somehow between your writing it and posting? All I see are the quote from my post. ???

a reply to: BO XIAN


He did talk about the Harbinger. He loved that book I think he agreed with it. Im not sure about the others, but he likely knows about them. He reads constantly

Hit me with some questions for him and I will forward them, and get back to you. His days are now filled with book reading, research, gardening, and painting. He is a real good painter. On a sidenote, his dad was born on the Turkish side of mount Ararat in 1900. We escaped in 1910. Grandpa gave me information in early 1960s about Noahs Ark

a reply to: visitedbythem

THANKS MUCH!

I PM messaged you some questions.

You are welcome to share whichever ones he feels comfortable with you sharing, should he be willing to answer them.

Could you start a thread about what he told you about Noah's Ark?


Blessings,

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: BO XIANMy father is almost 90. His father told me about Noahs Ark He would be 116 now. He talked to me about it when He was 65 . I turned 59 a couple days ago

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: BO XIANMy father is almost 90. His father told me about Noahs Ark He would be 116 now. He talked to me about it when He was 65 . I turned 59 a couple days ago

Ahhhh . . . Sorry I didn't keep all that straight.

Whatever you recall about Noah's ark, would be interesting, to me.

You can read your PM's by clicking on the envelope in the upper right corner.

Cheers.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: carewemust

Some people would consider Portland to be "near" Canada.

AT least closer than Phoenix! LOL.

I think it's an interesting case. I'm sure the naysayers can shotgun enough holes in it to make a sieve. That's their habit and skill through endless hours of practice.

Will be interesting to see how they handle it when the craft start showing up in lots of neighborhoods and the nightly news.

The hole will only be believed by other naysayers...If two witnesses saw it who had no connection to each other it would hold up in a court of law...That kind of evidence can convict a person for murder and send him to the electric chair...So there are no holes for me...

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
I'm not saying it didn't happen, but why give this any credibility? It's a vague story, submitted by a single person, with no corroborating witnesses or evidence. I could make up something similar and submit it tomorrow, and people would lap it up.

in my opinion, a story like this is about as good as it gets today. i find this kind of simple descriptive report, free from alot of wild alien speculation or obvious filler, and with a mufon/nuforc case number to be much more credible than any youtube video or story about "tall whites", "insectoids", "grays" or "reptilians".

I've seen one of the triangles. like this report it was a simple sighting. there were no other witnesses that filed a report (that i'm aware of) despite being near a highway. the old motorola electrify cell phone camara wasnt strong enough to work well in the dark so i have no evidence either (though not for lack of trying, i just dropped the phone on my hood and watched the thing when i realized i was wasting time while trying to record it). having seen what ive seen, the only speculation id offer on this case is that it could have been one of the triangles on edge. personally, i suspect some of the cigar reports are triangles viewed from the side. my logic being that if i were the commander of a secret airship/SDI craft/whatever, and know im likely to be seen i'd turn the thing to present the smallest silhouette possible.

a reply to: Iscool

Well and truly said, imho.

Most folks seem to forget such facts about witnesses.

Thanks.

a reply to: LordSnow21

Sounds very reasonable, to me.

I think your comment about views of craft 'on edge' view are likely quite true.

Thanks.

a reply to: In4ormant

No, probably not aliens but most certainly not an F-117, thats all. But since you like being a smart ass and all why dont you go learn about aviation so you dont make ludicrous statements like a CH-46 escorting a F-117.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
Posted by: Roger Marsh May 19, 2016

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“The helicopter was manmade, without visible insignia, possibly a dark blue/green color. Looked to be a Chinook, as it had two props. Very large, very loud. Object was flying in front of the helicopter, and appeared totally black, oblong, like a cigar or elongated diamond shape. Weather was clear, 46-degrees F., with a visibility of 10 miles. Wind about 5 mph.Battleground is a thriving populous community, a suburb of Vancouver. It is located about 30 miles north of Portland International Airport, and about 20 miles north of Vancouver and about 30 miles southwest of Mount St. Helens.”
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I love UFOs and UFO stuff but why would they escort it with a large double rotor transport helicopter instead of a more attacky type?

a reply to: Night Star

Wonder what that's all about?

It remembers me back of that cigar shaped craft the Russian migs encountered in mid air somewhere in the mid fifties.

There's video circulating about that encounter.

I do think the occupants flying that thing are not the ones who are not eager to get this in the open.

Also if we can connect the dots to the Mc kinnon story ,well " what else ?"

And if its them who also flying that thing back then ,one can say that the government are working along side with them .

If so then we all know who they are IMO..