Trump Gets NRA Endorsement, Says He'll Ban Gun-Free Zones

The endorsement comes despite persistent skepticism from conservatives over Trump's sincerity on the Second Amendment, after the candidate shifted from backing an assault weapons ban in 2000 to voicing outspoken opposition to any weapons bans and support for an expansion of gun rights since launching his presidential bid.

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This is certainly one way to draw attention to yourself, as if he needs any. Trump still has a long way to go in earning my trust, as most politicians will say whatever it takes to get elected and at this point in my life, I'm tired of being fooled.

Since expressing support for the ban and a longer waiting period for gun purchases in 2000, Trump has done an about-face on the issue. He's since called gun bans "a total failure," opposed an expansion of background checks and called for concealed carry permits to be valid across all 50 states.

He's also vowed to eliminate gun-free zones in schools and on military bases on his first day in office, and never fails to emphasize the importance of the Second Amendment during a stump speech.

That’s quite the bombshell and one that most parents will have a tough time accepting. When children are involved, many people either become irrational or overprotective or both, forcing the rest of their opponents on the issue to comply. Trump's proposal would force us to be more aware and responsible for our actions. It would completely change society as we know it.

The NRA convention appearance is just the latest in a long courtship of gun enthusiasts by Trump. He spoke at the same meeting last April, before he officially launched his campaign. During that speech he touted his own lifetime membership of the NRA and his sons' appreciation for hunting. And one of the first policy statements Trump released on his website was about guns, declaring in that "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon."

I agree with the article when it says, “For Trump, gun rights is more of a base-galvanizing issue”, since he has clearly shown to be against certain freedoms in the past. At it’s best, Trump’s new found love for the Second Amendment could cause Hillary supporters to question their allegiance to someone who speak so profoundly against it.

Where are we headed if Trump gets elected president? Are we safer or only a greater threat to ourselves and others, considering past events that have changed the way many think about guns?

I don't think he has that power outside of government offices and facilities.

More of that hope and change, cough cough, sorry about that, make america great again lol

a reply to: eisegesis

This is SOP for any GOP nominee. Romney and McCain were no friends of the 2nd amendment until they started having aspirations for the POTUS' big chair. It's just a fact of life, if you're going to have any chance of getting conservative America to vote for you, you either have to kiss the NRA's ring or go even further and criticize the NRA for their past sell-outs, calling their history of compromises an affront to freedom.

I don't really care if Donald Trump personally loves the 2nd amendment and firearms... all I care about is whether he recognizes that his personal opinions on that issue need to genuflect to the Constitution and "Shall not be infringed" means 100% exactly that. I believe he's smart enough to realize that and I believe he will reverse course from Obama's childish fear mongering against firearms.

Yea!

Visitors can take guns into the White House!

originally posted by: ketsuko
I don't think he has that power outside of government offices and facilities.

He would have the ability to instruct his justice department to investigate the legality of gun free zones, potentially even bringing the situation before the SCOTUS to determine the constitutionality of public universities and businesses which do business with the public passing "gun free" zone policies. It's exactly the same as Obama's justice department filing a $200,000 fine against the bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a lesbian couple.

Gimme guns, guns and nothing but guns and I'll show you the most peaceful place on Earth.

a reply to: eisegesis

I wonder if I'm allowed to take a gun into any and all Trump facilities once he's president?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: ketsuko
I don't think he has that power outside of government offices and facilities.

He would have the ability to instruct his justice department to investigate the legality of gun free zones, potentially even bringing the situation before the SCOTUS to determine the constitutionality of public universities and businesses which do business with the public passing "gun free" zone policies. It's exactly the same as Obama's justice department filing a $200,000 fine against the bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a lesbian couple.

That is not the same. That was a fine from the justice department for discrimination. You want to compare 'gun free zones' to that?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

It would only be the same if they allowed some people to carry inside said facilities and others were not allowed for x reason.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: eisegesis

I wonder if I'm allowed to take a gun into any and all Trump facilities once he's president?

No you wouldn't, but why would you want to?

You know a gun near the President is a no go, President Trump will be no different.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

I am sure he was talking about his casinos and hotels.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: eisegesis

I wonder if I'm allowed to take a gun into any and all Trump facilities once he's president?

No you wouldn't, but why would you want to?

You know a gun near the President is a no go, President Trump will be no different.

It is Trump that sas he will ban 'gun free zones', that would be all of them.

What are some Gun-Free Zones? I did a Google search and the only example I could find were schools. I would imagine they include court houses, hospitals....where else?

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: ketsuko
I don't think he has that power outside of government offices and facilities.

He would have the ability to instruct his justice department to investigate the legality of gun free zones, potentially even bringing the situation before the SCOTUS to determine the constitutionality of public universities and businesses which do business with the public passing "gun free" zone policies. It's exactly the same as Obama's justice department filing a $200,000 fine against the bakery that refused to make a wedding cake for a lesbian couple.

That is not the same. That was a fine from the justice department for discrimination. You want to compare 'gun free zones' to that?

If you feel that discrimination is a violation of someone's rights, then so is banning someone's right to keep and bear arms.

In that they are very much the same.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

This is SOP for any GOP nominee. Romney and McCain were no friends of the 2nd amendment until they started having aspirations for the POTUS' big chair. It's just a fact of life, if you're going to have any chance of getting conservative America to vote for you, you either have to kiss the NRA's ring or go even further and criticize the NRA for their past sell-outs, calling their history of compromises an affront to freedom.

I agree. It's interesting how many people support the Second Amendment right up until something tragic happens to them or their family. Afterwards, they're eager to cast the right aside, no longer willing to respect those who uphold it responsibly. I understand that a tragedy could have that effect on people, but once again, you don't know what you've got till it's gone and your defenseless self finds your face between a boot and a curb.

a reply to: windword

Plenty of private venues.

originally posted by: windword
What are some Gun-Free Zones? I did a Google search and the only example I could find were schools. I would imagine they include court houses, hospitals....where else?

Some private businesses, like malls. Oddly, malls seem tio find that guns in crowds and movie theaters cause problems. Who knew?

Many states don;t allow guns in bars. One state passed a law recently to allow patrons to carry guns in bars. What could go wrong there?

Trump could preserve the 2nd Amendment by appointing constitutionalists to the Supreme Court.
Then he could support the 2nd amendment by not criticizing guns instead of the shooter every time there is a shooting, unlike the current president.
And, he could encourage lawsuits against unconstitutional limits and bans, without fear of repercussions.
There are things he could do within his power.

Trump has a concealed carry permit, and says he always carries. He has shown support for the 2nd amendment for a long time.

Obama pushes gun control every chance he gets, and Hillary would be worse. The difference with Trump is - he has common sense. He knows the benefits of gun ownership and he blames shooters, not the guns. Just like he blames terrorists for their actions, instead of being apologetic, as if the US brings on the attacks like our current administration does.

a reply to: ketsuko

But they are not discriminating, it is any and everyone.

Isn't it the businesses right to decide what happens with their business?