In Search For Cures, Scientists Create Embryos That Are Both Animal And Human

a reply to: ketsuko

Considering that as of now it's embryonic with the embryos having to be destroyed at 14 days...

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Here's the thing, we don't need it. We can clone ourselves quite easily and cheaply. All it takes is something called sex. OK, it costs time and space but it works quite perfectly for most of the population. Technologies often get "started" with the promise of "a better, healthier life" or "higher yields" as in GM crops and all the unholiness associated with it.

You don't need to convince believers, we need unbiased information which is something no company will supply. Monsanto swears that their product produces more, requires less pesticides and is generally "all good". That is a lie.

The reality is that it is a toxin which is harmful to plant, water and animal life. Advertising and a whole #load of cash will convince anyone of anything, eventually. Just look at religion, fooled a whole lot of intelligent people.

Scientists are always "looking for new cures". They rarely, if ever, find them. MS, AIDS, cancer, muscular dystrophy, I could go on.

PS I am not a God-fearing man. Do we really have a soul? Science can't tell us so it could go either way. I think we are just an animal with a slightly more complex and over-active brain. I could be wrong.

Furries

I think a lot of people here have been caught up in one word - hybrid.

A genetic hybrid is NOT the same as an actual, bona fide hybrid (such as a liger or a zedonk). A genetic hybrid is a merely an organism which has genes from another animal implanted into it. There are sheep in Uruguay which have been grown with a gene which causes jellyfish to fluoresce. They are genetic hybrids. They act, behave and look like sheep, but glow in the dark. They are not slimy blobs of gelatinous wool, they're glowing sheep.
If we are able to create an animal which grows human bone marrow for cancer treatments, that animal would be a genetic hybrid. It would be whatever animal it was, except would have human bone marrow. Not a human skeletal structure, or nervous system, or brain, or opposable thumbs. It wouldn't question it's existence any more than others of it's kind did. If it mated with another of it's species who also had human bone marrow, the resulting offspring wouldn't be a manbeast. It'd probably have human bone marrow, though.

Science in and of itself is neither good or evil. It is simply the search for the answer to a problem. The growth of genetic hybrids has the potential to solve a hell of a lot of problems, and opens up the possibility of further developments in directly influencing human genes to prevent serious medical conditions.

Yes!
Soon I will be able to order Spider pig

On 2nd thought - yuck

"As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be with the coming of the Son of Man."

What was going on in the days of Noah you ask? Genetic manipulation, all flesh had been corrupted by the science of the fallen ones. Yahweh's solution at that time was to wash it all away with water. This time the corruption will be so pervasive the Earth will be made molten.

I feel sorry for the creatures that have already been produced and will be in the future by our extreme arrogance and inhumanity. I know they suffer.

a reply to: ShadowsOfEridu

I fear you are right

I always imagined our history like that

You can't seriously assume that in doing this we would not have any procedures for if anything goes wrong. There's no logical reason not to give it a try.

I dont see what is wrong with it if its saving life's or or helping the human race to overcome problems and survive. People say we shouldn't do it because its playing god. Isn't it about time the church stops holding back the human race from in the name of a fictional charictor called god that doesnt exist! They have been doing it for the last almost the last 2000 years. I wonder how mutch more advanced humans we would be if the church never existed?

a reply to: JackofBlades

Genetic hybrid is a broad term. You're talking about a gene such as the one that produces green fluorescent protein and inserting that into another organisms cells. This is called a transgenic organism.

One could say that all genetic modification is perfectly moral in that the human mind is a product of nature's work and therefore anything that comes from the mind is natural including the concept and ability to alter organisms outside of what we have previously known as traditional methods. One day all this will be considered traditional. I wonder if early plant breeders were considered heretics to nature.

"There is nothing new under the sun" ,"the truth is stranger than fiction" Anyone remember cattle mutilations?

At some point we maybe able to consider our selves gods due to science. If one created a virtual universe one would be the god to said universe.I personally believe it's inevitable.

I can understand the benefit if it went exactly as they say they plan for it to go - human organs being grown in farm animals would be amazing for medical science. I know people are hung up on the term "playing god" but it doesn't have to mean offending the "big guy upstairs" by messing with his creations (I'm atheist for the record). The concern is that experimenting with DNA without full knowledge of what will happen could have controversial consequences. Experimenting is how we learn, so it's necessary if they want to go down that road, but the mistakes they make here could be really ethically questionable. It's not about "souls" but about consciousness and how "human" their awareness could be. If the brain was influenced at all by the human DNA then they have to decide what to do about it, at what point they can destroy the subject, whether or not they should.

I fully expect these types of experiments have gone farther than is reported in the article at some time and place, but the questions it raises are sill important, even if they're late. Poor pig men.

I guess I'm one of the few that sees nothing wrong with this. I really need to go back and read more about it but frankly I'd love a bit of animal dna... if they could get the human/animal to all play nicely together. It's a shame I couldn't have been born in a generation where it could actually happen. Weird thought, maybe. But hey medicine works in many different ways... and there are more options with more dna.

Personally, I believe combining different Beings (animals, humans, Nature Spirits, etc.) to create designer life will have some un-reversable consequences.

* When two different sentient species are combined, there is an enforced coexistance during their life, and probably afterwards in the afterlife.

*The concept of blending souls is possible, as after death one's life is distilled down as soul existence. There is more to memory then just images, there is also feelings and mentality.

* A clairvoyant look at organ transplants will see the conflict on a life force level. Bone marrow transplants 'look', to the inner eye, like two awarenesses fighting for possession of a body. Probably why rejection is such an issue.

* Think also of whom and what will incarnate into those designer bodies. To get around that glitch, science will need to keep the designer life artificially alive and non-breeding. Being stuck in an immortal life against one's will and being nothing but a slave will impact on the consciousness of the designer Being, probably very negatively.

* Culling enemy or outdated designer life will be a problem, science's solution will probably be to create diseases as the easy way out. Arms race.

When this happens humanity will look at the horror of nukes as the "good old days"in comparison.

Just an educated guess

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: neoholographic

So what happens when ISIS starts playing with chimeras and building hybrid armies out of frightening beasts?

Apparently their Ancient Ancestors did!!

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: Kali74

What if human/animal chimeras grow and rise in our population, and decide to turn against normal humans? There have been wars for far lesser reasons.

This has all the potential of going south real quick.

THE LAW !! Abides!

Island of Lost Souls (1932)

Dr. Moreau: What is the law?
Sayer of the Law: Not to eat meat, that is the law. Are we not men? Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?
Dr. Moreau: What is the law?
Sayer of the Law: Not to go on all fours, that is the law. Are we not men? Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?
Dr. Moreau: What is the law?
Sayer of the Law: Not to spill blood, that is the law. Are we not men? Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: LightSpeedDriver

Would you not be playing God by murdering the scientists?

No, playing the Devil, remember, God does not exist.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: JimiBlack

Then how do you know?

The question should be...how do YOU NOT know.

It would appear you are in need of some DNA upgrades, so you can SEE.

originally posted by: Bigfatfurrytexan

P.S. Humans are animals...

I don't understand people that insult animals like this.