EgyptAir flight from Paris to Cairo has vanished from Radar

a reply to: Zaphod58

A follow up question. If they did take evasive action at that speed, could this have placed high stress on the aircraft thus causing structural damage?

a reply to: bucsarg

Depending on what they did, theoretically, but even commercial aircraft are stressed to around +2.5Gs. They could have made an unusual maneuver that stressed parts of the aircraft, but it would have had to be an extremely hard maneuver.

Looking at the reports on Twitter and various news sites, it looks like the wreckage found is floating debris.

a reply to: Zaphod58

here is a quote about the wreckage

In a series of tweets the airline said that investigators found floating materials likely to be wreckage, life jackets and plastic debris.

a reply to: jappee

A flight number is a route Number, so MS804 is paris - Cairo, not always the same plane though. Now it will change to something like MS805 or MS8041 depending on what route numbers are availble.

I believe the numbers to be coincidental, but choosing a Flight number would actually be very easy if you wanted it to match a set number of days.

Hey I was just responding to your comment, if you thought this was off topic you shouldn't have made any comments about numbers... Like you I responded to someone because I wanted to add my input

Must be that all 66 passengers and crew have passed away... what a large loss of life. I hope if it was an intentional act that investigators can find out what happened and help find out ways to prevent a similar scenario from happening again RIP

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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: bucsarg

Very possible. Not many airlines teach upset training to their crews, although that's increasing as time goes on. If they felt they had to make a hard turn to try to avoid something, they could have lost control accidentally.

Wouldn't a change of course show up on radar before the plummet?

a reply to: TinfoilTP

From the sources I have been reading the aircraft did change course twice before plummeting.

Also just read the USA intelligent services stated from their imaging they think they see signs of an explosion.

a reply to: bucsarg

Hillary Clinton also mentioned in an interview that at this point, "we think it's terrorism" THANKS FOR NOTHING HILLARY, YOU SUCK

Yep and every sensible person can probably guess who is responsible for it. Im not going to say because we aren't allowed to say MUSLIM.

a reply to: MEDIKATED
come on, you're way too gullible....

Press release

And a video.



Not that i'm standing behind that which is said in the video, but it gives a good display of the Athens FIR (flight information region) and Cairo FIR.

About the movements, the official data does not say anything about such movements, only that the signal was lost when the aircraft was about 10 miles past KUMBI into Cairo FIR.

Have they checked primary radar recordings after the signal was lost? that is my guess, but it is only a blip on the screen, no further information like seen on civil radar which is dependant on the transponder data of the aircraft.
The movements therefore is nothing more than rumors to me for now.

a reply to: FamCore

Yes, the same Hillary who'd welcome Middle Eastern refugees into our country without vetting them, and allow them to work in our airports.

What's scary when looking at Europe is how many Muslims are working for the airline industry. But that's what happens with open borders.

a reply to: Onthebit

Yes id say defo ISIS/CIA done it.

originally posted by: MEDIKATED
Yep and every sensible person can probably guess who is responsible for it. Im not going to say because we aren't allowed to say MUSLIM.

Oh really who here has said that...

We state facts (most of the time), if it is Muslim terrorists that are behind it then I would hope there is a discussion as to what took place. And yes if confirmed that it is a terrorist attack then all money will be going on someone who is a member of the religion of peace . All be it with a healthy portion of what if questions..

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a reply to: Davg80

Mossad/Cia whatever....we create our own terrorist and now showcase it all on youtube....

originally posted by: WeSbO
a reply to: jappee

A flight number is a route Number, so MS804 is paris - Cairo, not always the same plane though. Now it will change to something like MS805 or MS8041 depending on what route numbers are availble.

I believe the numbers to be coincidental, but choosing a Flight number would actually be very easy if you wanted it to match a set number of days.

Hey I was just responding to your comment, if you thought this was off topic you shouldn't have made any comments about numbers... Like you I responded to someone because I wanted to add my input

Flight numbers are the line number of the aircraft. Like flight 1292 would be the 1282nd airplane of that model when it was made at the factory. Not routes, unless they have completely changed it, they have always been that way.

a reply to: bucsarg

I just saw that on slate

Ken Dilanian ✔
‎@KenDilanianNBC
Scoop: NBC News reporting that US intel sees evidence of explosion on Egypt Air MS804 10:31 AM - 19 May 2016
Dilanian added that the evidence involves satellite data, including images.

ETA:
Also, from bbc

Wreckage is not from aircraft, Greek aviation official says Posted at 12:18 Some confusion continues over the wreckage that has been found in the Mediterranean. Earlier, EgyptAir said the debris was confirmed to be from flight MS804. But now, the head of the Greek air safety authority, Athanassios Binos, has told state ERT TV that the wreckage "does not come from a plane".

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originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: bucsarg

Hillary Clinton also mentioned in an interview that at this point, "we think it's terrorism" THANKS FOR NOTHING HILLARY, YOU SUCK

Donald Trump tweeted 2 hours before any officials mentioned terrorism... "Looks like we have another terrorist attack. When will we get tough, smart, and vigilant?"

Source: www.cnn.com...

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