Advanced 150,000 Year-Old Pipework Found Under Chinese Pyramid

The Baigong pipes are one of the greatest mysteries of the ancient world. They can be found inside a badly-eroded pyramid standing on top of Mount Baigong in the Qinghai Province of northwestern China.

The collapsing pyramid once had triangular entrances on all three sides but over time, two of them caved in and are currently out of reach. The one that remains goes deep inside the mountain. Iron scraps and strange-looking stones litter the floor, suggesting that long time ago, this place saw activity.

a reply to: Helenamatias

Those 'pyramids' with layered strata look like natural formations to me. Don't know about the 'metal pipes', what metals are they comprised of? Spectrographic analysis should reveal if they are manufactured or not.

Edit: Oh, analysis reveals the pipes are basically oxide, coming up from the lake bed and jutting out the mountain side, formed during hydrology and mineral deposit, then eroded out, revealed as tubular structures, called "pipes".

(imo)

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Helenamatias

Those 'pyramids' with layered strata look like natural formations to me. Don't know about the 'metal pipes', what metals are they comprised of? Spectrographic analysis should reveal if they are manufactured or not.

According to the source:
The Beijing Institute of Geology analyzed the pipes using a technique called thermoluminescence, the pipes were made up of ferric oxide, silicon dioxide and calcium oxide, they also contained 8% of an unknown material.

No further news since them

This whole thread intrigues me.

I don't mean to be one of 'those' guys, but... SLAYER himself has already laid claim to a pretty awesome thread on this.

Who built these ancient metal pipes deep inside a mountain cave?

a reply to: Helenamatias

Black smokers and Tufa formations exhibit this same kind of structure. Water channels depositing ''limestone" in caves make stalagmites and stalagmites, similar to the same concretion material they are finding in China.

Edit: In other words it looks to me like water channels in rock that form veins of minerals over time, coating the channels until they become blocked by mineral deposits the same way old city water pipes become plugged with minerals. Veins of metal ore in moutainss form this way. Gold and silver veins are formed this way, due too heat from volcanology, water from runoff and erosion of minerals from the surrounding rock.

Kind of related to that "make Wood transparent like glass"-thread and motive: if there were channels in a material, and you flush them out, all you are left with is long tubes.

The Baigong pipes were discovered around 2000 maybe earlier by some American scientists, although there were no news reports until 2002.
I think that where they were found are regarded as caves rather than Pyramids so far though.
Things could change if structural internal brick work is to be found.

originally posted by: Helenamatias


the pipes were made up of ferric oxide, silicon dioxide and calcium oxide, they also contained 8% of an unknown material.

No further news since them

So the same basic materials that make all cast fossils, like with fossilised tree roots. Its odd that whenever these type of casts have been found anywhere else in the world they are pretty easily classified as fossil roots, but because this is in china, then its a mystery
haha

150,000 yrs ago... well, didn't astr0 say that exact time frame for the et humans' arrival here in that black triangle thread?

I know, likely volcanic vents, or fossilized roots.. .whatever ... just spitballin'... but the timing IS curious!

originally posted by: Baddogma
150,000 yrs ago... well, didn't astr0 say that exact time frame for the et humans' arrival here in that black triangle thread?

Just because someone says something...

We know that homo sapiens has been here for 195,000 years, which is the date science currently has for our species

Anatomically modern humans first appear in the fossil record in Africa about 195,000 years ago, and studies of molecular biology give evidence that the approximate time of divergence from the common ancestor of all modern human populations was 200,000 years ago

en.wikipedia.org...

It's a type of concretion, and they're found all over the world. I saw some in a rock in a local shopping center.

Bottom line: seen out of context, yes they look like pipes. Seen up close and personal, it's obvious that it's a natural rock.
Some examples here: geology.about.com...

a reply to: Marduk

Well, the actual tall tale tells of a group of high tech humans from elsewhere who come here to reinvigorate their damaged dna around 150,000 ... I guess we were a dna doomsday vault... and that implies regular ol' Earthy humans here for a longer period.

And if you actually do some legwork on that tall tale, it gets interesting.. .whether totally factual, or not.

But I was just spitballin' ... I assert no truth.

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: Marduk

Well, the actual tall tale tells of a group of high tech humans from elsewhere who come here to reinvigorate their damaged dna around 150,000 ... I guess we were a dna doomsday vault... and that implies regular ol' Earthy humans here for a longer period.

And if you actually do some legwork on that tall tale, it gets interesting.. .whether totally factual, or not.

Yup, sounds like Sitchin. its made up nonsense

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: Marduk

Well, the actual tall tale tells of a group of high tech humans from elsewhere who come here to reinvigorate their damaged dna around 150,000

There's several problems with this... first off, if they were so advanced they had space travel that means they had the tools and means to genetically modify things. Second, the universe is made up of the same elements everywhere... if they needed a certain chemical compound anyone with high tech equipment could have crafted it. Star drive implies fusion reactors or better... and fusion reactors are the forge for making new atoms out of other atoms.

... I guess we were a dna doomsday vault... and that implies regular ol' Earthy humans here for a longer period.

Depending on whether you identify as a "human being" any member of the genus "homo" or "australopithecus and up", humans have been here for more than a million years according to science.

I have several pieces of similar "pipes" I've collected in the Rio Puerco in New Mexico. Spoiler alert: They're perfectly natural.

a reply to: Marduk

Tsk, tsk ... a bit too dismissive, sir or madame... that story wasn't Sitchen! I'm likely wasting time, and certainly being defensive, but I'll lay out why I don't discard that story like I do for most of what I read here.

I did a thread trying to deconstruct that astr0 maze, and came away just as puzzled. It is completely agreed that it sounds absolutely ludicrous on many, many levels... but if you go through the guys posts on the aircraft forums, and there are hundreds, a picture emerges that he knew stuff... definitely knew stuff about black tech, anyway.. .that much is pretty solid.

Then there was that problematic last post with that tall tale about black triangles, other branches of humanity, secret high tech and using humans as dreaming hardware... and it was ...hard to swallow! I was fairly sure it was the highest order of b.s., despite his earlier seeming veracity for many years, and then some members I respect (almost as much as I respect you and Byrd) told me in private they had some validating experiences supporting the guy's assertions. So that, plus the more than plausible web of tech info he pointed to, created cross correlations that were ...surprising.

It left me with the impression there might well be some rare truth to that one tall tale... or it could be a years long 'psi-op' or sociology experiment, or something weirder like magicians toying with perceptions or something equally "woo," but that one single story left me scratching my head, along with other, less impressionable members ...

but sure, Sitchen was caught fabricating most of his assertions, agreed, but as I said, this was no common ancient astronaut b.s. .. .that's all.

And these pipes... sure, likely natural... and the referenced story, above, was brief and scant, but said humans were "seeded" on many planets and evolved separately, until a higher tech branch of humans came here to repair their damaged dna around 150,000 b.p. .. . which is a trope of so many tabloid tales, I well know, but according to that member, plain ol' Earth humans were here happily evolving for millions of years until their cousins with higher tech dropped by.

SO, again, I don't know for sure, of course, but dismissing it without looking into it is ... dismissive!

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: Marduk

Tsk, tsk ... a bit too dismissive, sir or madame... that story wasn't Sitchen! I'm likely wasting time, and certainly being defensive, but I'll lay out why I don't discard that story like I do for most of what I read here.

I did a thread trying to deconstruct that astr0 maze, and came away just as puzzled. It is completely agreed that it sounds absolutely ludicrous on many, many levels... but if you go through the guys posts on the aircraft forums, and there are hundreds, a picture emerges that he knew stuff... definitely knew stuff about black tech, anyway.. .that much is pretty solid.

Then there was that problematic last post with that tall tale about black triangles, other branches of humanity, secret high tech and using humans as dreaming hardware... and it was ...hard to swallow! I was fairly sure it was the highest order of b.s., despite his earlier seeming veracity for many years, and then some members I respect (almost as much as I respect you and Byrd) told me in private they had some validating experiences supporting the guy's assertions. So that, plus the more than plausible web of tech info he pointed to, created cross correlations that were ...surprising.

It left me with the impression there might well be some rare truth to that one tall tale... or it could be a years long 'psi-op' or sociology experiment, or something weirder like magicians toying with perceptions or something equally "woo," but that one single story left me scratching my head, along with other, less impressionable members ...

but sure, Sitchen was caught fabricating most of his assertions, agreed, but as I said, this was no common ancient astronaut b.s. .. .that's all.

And these pipes... sure, likely natural... and the referenced story, above, was brief and scant, but said humans were "seeded" on many planets and evolved separately, until a higher tech branch of humans came here to repair their damaged dna around 150,000 b.p. .. . which is a trope of so many tabloid tales, I well know, but according to that member, plain ol' Earth humans were here happily evolving for millions of years until their cousins with higher tech dropped by.

SO, again, I don't know for sure, of course, but dismissing it without looking into it is ... dismissive!

Let me just translate your post into English
Black ops
UFO's Aliens
Conspiracy theory
Star Trek plot reference

You are definitely in the wrong forum. No one is interested in science fiction when we have facts...

a reply to: Marduk

You are definitely in the wrong forum. No one is interested in science fiction when we have facts...

Science fiction has a peculiar habit of becoming science fact, but I'm well aware of that accounts uncertain nature and was only commenting that it had curious supportive testimony.

I also wondered if there is any hard data to refute that narrative, as I'm not sold on it but have been out of touch with anthropology for a number of decades.

But I shall leave you to your forum and will try to avoid the door hitting my rear upon my exit. Sorry to have bothered you with a Trek knock-off!

originally posted by: Baddogma
I also wondered if there is any hard data to refute that narrative, as I'm not sold on it but have been out of touch with anthropology for a number of decades.

This is the Homo timeline



We barely go back 200,000 years. When we evolved from either Homo Heidelbergensis, or from Homo Erectus, depending on which Homo dispersal theory you believe in.

We know that modern Human DNA has evolved through all these species, all Europeans for instance have up to 4% Neanderthal DNA, from when we interbred with them on leaving Africa. That is a proven fact.

So these aliens, which species of humanity were they, because the one thing that can be asserted as fact, is that they can't have been Homo Sapiens and that as our DNA has been evolving for millions of years, it would have been useless to them and why would they need to anyway, the scientific knowledge required to manipulate dna is well below inter stellar travel. So wouldn't they have just refreshed it like that.
Like the Daleks did in this episode