The DNA of the Rothschilds (not what you expected)

As person who loves history and Genealogy I decided to look up the Paternal DNA of famous people including the Rothschilds to see if there is any significance to their bloodlines. Despite everything you know the genetic evidence tells a different story of what we have previously thought.

Both Adolf Hitler & Albert Einstein belonged to the same Paternal haplogroup of E1b1b......which is only found in Jews.

The Rothschilds belong to the paternal Haplogroup J2 which was the original DNA of ancient Mesopotamians.

Quite a few ancient Mediterranean and Middle Eastern civilisations flourished in territories where J2 lineages were preponderant. This is the case of the Hattians, the Hurrians, the Etruscans, the Minoans, the Greeks, thePhoenicians (and their Carthaginian offshoot), and to a lower extent also the Assyrians and the Persians. All the great seafaring civilisations from the middle Bronze Age to the Iron Age were dominated by J2 men.

There is a distinct association of ancient J2 civilisations with bull worship. The oldest evidence of a cult of the bull can be traced back to Neolithic central Anatolia, notably at the sites of Çatalhöyük and Alaca Höyük. Bull depictions are omnipresent in Minoan frescos and ceramics in Crete. Bull-masked terracotta figurines and bull-horned stone altars have been found in Cyprus (dating back as far as the Neolithic, the first presumed expansion of J2 from West Asia). The Hattians, Sumerians, Babylonians, Canaaites, and Carthaginians all had bull deities.

Basically haplogroup J2 is not that significant it's predominantly found among Muslims and Arabs.


The fact that the Rothschilds don't have Jewish DNA could mean that they were instead related to the Khazars who converted to Jewdiasm.

Ashkenaz was a region in Magog where the so-called “red Jews” of Khazaria had ruled an empire on the north shores of the Black and Caspian seas. The Rothschilds, and ‘most’ other Ashkenazi Jews, are descended from the Khazars who are actually Turks.

While the [Turks/Jews by conversion] of Khazaria had been the small minority among both Christian and Muslim citizens, they ruled the empire absolutely; it had been the law of the land that only [TurkJews] could rule! There were two kings, an invisible one called a “khagan,” and a visible one called a “beg.” Interesting, isn’t it, that the invisible Rothschilds are now a few [Turks/Jews] ruling the world.

In 867 AD, The Vikings from Scandinavia, appeared near Kiev (north shore of the Black Sea), and eventually took the city from the Khazars the Turks/Jews. For some years the invaders lived side by side with the Khazars, but thereafter they put the Khazars to flight, at roughly which time the phrase, “Ashkenazi Jew,” was heard for the first time in the regions of Germany and Hungary.

In The Year 2000 There Were Seven Countries Without A Rothschild-Owned Central Bank: They were Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Cuba, North Korea and Iran.

Khazars aka; Ashkenazi Turk/Jew were ‘not’ true Hebrews, but instead Turks who had converted to Judaism. Ashkenazi Turk/Jews are over 90 percent of those who claim to be Jews today– but who are actuallyTurks that wrongly believe to be Jews. The conspiracy to control the world by international bankers is not a Jewish plot, but a Turkish plot. Hitler sent ‘mainly’ Turks to concentration camps! And Turks now run the ‘State’ of Israel!! In short: most of today’s Jews are not the real descendants of the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Judah.

I'm not into conspiracies but after reading about history and other cultures , It's quite obvious that the Turkish people hate Caucasians with a passion. Just take the Young Turks for example the whole show is about shaming white people.



Could there be some genetic history behind all this conflict? Who knows.
If you Google "Roman vs Greek nose" , there are a slot of illustrations showing how the Armenian nose looks like , just like those of Jews.

Anyway the fact that Hitler unleashed genocide on his own people is pretty hilarious and sad at the same time considering all the things he said about them.

a reply to: ancienthistorian

is there a source you can provide that shows evidence for the Rothschilds being part of Haplogroup J2?

Are they required to breed with cousins to preserve their "special" DNA as well?

@Jews E1b1b: Wrong.

"E1b1b ist die häufigste Y-Haplogruppe unter Äthiopiern, Somali, Einwohnern Eritreas und bei nordafrikanischen Berbern und Arabern. Sie ist die dritthäufigste Haplogruppe in Europa.[7] Sie kommt auch in hoher Dichte im Nahen Osten vor, von wo aus sie sich in den Balkan und den Rest Europas verbreitete. E1b1b hat drei verschiedene Subgruppen: M78, M81 und M34."
Source (Wikipedia)

Yeah, sorry that the en-version of this is a stub.

Rough translation: E1b1b is not restricted to humans of Jewish heritance only.

a reply to: FamCore

Eupedia - Genetics - Famous people's Y-DNA listed by haplogroup

I thought there was no such thing as identifying Jews based on DNA or whatever physical characteristics. Whether you are Jewish or not is defined by your religion, not your ethnicity.
Or have I missed the memo?

Nice idea for a thread though.
Makes me curious about my own DNA.
Isn't there a DIY kit available somewhere?

a reply to: theantediluvian

Thank you! interesting site

a reply to: ancienthistorian

FamilyTreeDNA - J2

The J2 subclade is similar in distribution to J1, but it is typically present at a higher frequency. J2 is distinguished from J1 by a lower frequency in Arab populations and the near absence in Africa. The J2 subclade is highest in Anatolia and prominent in Mesopotamia and the Levant – all areas that served as centers of agricultural revolution. J2 is common among Turkish, Kurdish and Jewish populations and significant frequencies are found in the Caucasus, Iran, and Southcentral Asia. TMRCA estimates for this haplogroup range from 4-15kya.

a reply to: ManFromEurope

Also J-M172 aka J2 isn't uncommon among Ashkenazi or Sephardi Jews either.

a reply to: FamCore

Yep, np.

a reply to: z00mster

There are several of them these days with prices in the $99-$199 range. A few off the top of my head are Ancestry.com, 23andMe.com and FamilyTreeDNA.com.

a reply to: ancienthistorian

That's fascinating information! Thanks.

Pretty conclusively proves that Hitler was one, really messed up Dude.......but I guess we knew that.

Makes me want to research the Ethiopian Jewish community again. That's a real lost tale of mystery.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Thanks! I'll check them out

a reply to: z00mster

Mmmm, I'm pretty sure you missed some part of the memo. Its true that there were converts outside of the "Hebrew" blood lines, but as documented on the History Channel, (or the Discovery Channel), there is for example a unique DNA marker for the Levites, a Hebrew tribe, set aside as the Priestly tribe of the ancient Hebrews.

And we know that because of DNA testing of, of all things, actual Jewish people who were DNA tested out of South Africa and Ethiopia. In fact, the Ethiopian Hebrews/Jews have been granted special asylum/citizenship status in Israel for repatriation purposes.

And of course, that begs the question.................what the H were Hebrews doing in Eastern Africa? Its actually a fascinating history linking back to the original "diaspora".

a reply to: theantediluvian

Oh I see you have to send your dna to their lab. I was thinking about making my own lab. Like so:

DIY lab

a reply to: TonyS

Wow thanks for the information. It's fascinating.
I really want to know my haplo group and see how my ancestors migrated.
Only thing is that it appears that only paternal lines can be investigated in that way.
Oh well...

a reply to: ancienthistorian

I have to thank you for your post, and somewhat, (tongue in cheek) curse you for your post.

I've spent literally hundreds of hours of time researching the bloodlines of the "Royals" of Europe in order to prove up, or disprove one of my crack pot theories and now, its back to the darned drawing board.

a reply to: ancienthistorian doesn't Rothschild roughly translate to 'red shield' in some ancient anglo saxon dialect?

a reply to: ancienthistorian

Awesome findings, keep moving forward, this is great work brought forward.

a reply to: z00mster

The maternal lines can't be investigated? I don't know. I've been tracing European royal bloodlines up and down maternal lines, but haven't looked into the DNA stuff because.............I'm just not quite smart enough to "get it".

But here's a fun teaser!

Who's the "ancestor" of Bianca Brandolini D'adda? Bianca is an Italian/Venetian Socialite. See her at:
whoareweintheend.blogspot.com...

Her Ancestor? Her Great, great, great, great, great ......Grandmother was Maria Theresa, Duchess of the Holy Roman Empire.
www.biography.com...

a reply to: theantediluvian

Old Adolf and David Attenborough! Who knew?

a reply to: ancienthistorian

Wait, are you saying YouTubes #1 news channel hates white peoples and is all about shaming them??????