New York Times: How Donald Trump Behaved With Women in Private

a reply to: theantediluvian

I stated earlier in the thread that it should not even matter for either side in a general election. Everyone knew Bill could not keep it in his pants and he was elected twice.

Trump has had multiple wives and he stepped out on them. This is true. However, it was in the news at the time and he never lied about it. It happened. Not cool but it did.
Clinton was impeached based on 4 charges. He lied. Be a man and use the set you had fondled.

Two different ballgames.

The issue is that Trump was in the NY papers but Hill and Bill covered up most of what he did. You will see those ladies on the trail soon. If nothing else, maybe having them all in one place will give HIl a stroke and you will all get your Bernie dream...

originally posted by: BlueAjah
Model featured in Trump 'hit piece' slams NY Times, says her story was 'spun'

A former model who was featured at the center of a lengthy New York Times report that assailed Donald Trump’s treatment of women said Monday that her account was taken out of context, misquoted and “spun” by the Times in order to portray the Republican presidential candidate in a negative light.

“They spun it to where it appeared negative. I did not have a negative experience with Donald Trump,” Rowanne Brewer Lane told “Fox & Friends.”

The entire premise of the article was just destroyed. Along with the tIme's credibility if they had any in the first place.

a reply to: mkultra11
The NY Times had credibility? I think that they took care of that years ago.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: matafuchs
If that stuff matters so much to you, it's not too late to throw your support behind Bernie who has no scandals and isn't noted for his lying.

Bernie has no scandals? You might want to review how Bernie views women:
Sen. Bernie Sanders' Essay: Women 'Fantasize About Being Raped'

Scary

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a reply to: matafuchs

Predator? Who did he sexually assault?

Juanita Brodderick?

After the alleged assault, she continued to campaign for Clinton and that including attending his events. She never said anything to her then husband. She later denied that it had happened when questioned and when she finally accused him of assaulting her 20 years later, she gave conflicting accounts and her only corroborating witness was a friend she'd supposedly told about the incident after it happened. As it turns out, that friend and witness was the daughter of a man that killed by a man whose sentence Clinton commuted as governor.

Kathleen Willey?

She said he groped her in a hallway yet after that alleged assault, she wrote him a number of affectionate letters. She lied to the FBI, Kenneth Starr found her account to not be credible and Linda Tripp testified that Willey had a thing for Clinton and that she was overjoyed after her encounter with Clinton.

Paula Jones?

What was her claim again? That after she went up to his hotel room, Clinton propositioned her? Then years later she sued him for a bunch of money with lawyers that if I'm not mistaken, were provided by the RNC. I know she had an RNC handler that was acting essentially as her agent, booking her on talk shows and the like. Then they (the RNC) launched a fundraiser for her! I also seem to remember that the gist of her claims were that she turned him down and was punished for it and that turned out to be untrue.

AFAIK, every other woman that Clinton was accused of having any sort of sexual encounter with either denied it happened or said it was consensual.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Who said anything about sexual assault? Tipped your hand there.....


He is a predator. A predator does not have to rape. He lies to cover it up. Should he have lost the presidency over a bj in the oval office, no, but he should not have lied under oath as the POTUS. It was not about the act his impeachment was over how he handled it. If he can blatantly look at a camera and tell the entire nation nothing happened...well, what else did he do and lie about? She enabled it because she stays with him. It is not like he did not bang all of these women....

PS....delve a little deeper than just the wiki....

Please give this a read...

www.breitbart.com...

and watch this video from 1992...denial...an enabler...

www.youtube.com...

a reply to: BlueAjah

"Rape fantasies" are quite common:

Psychology Today - Why Do Women Have Rape Fantasies?

In recent studies, more than 90 percent of women admit having had sexual fantasies, and depending on the study, some one-third to two-thirds confess at least occasional fantasies of being forced into sex. Of course, sexual assault is a horrible violation. Why would any sane woman fantasize about it? A recent study suggests that rape fantasies are most prevalent among women who are the most erotically open and adventurous, who feel most comfortable daydreaming about sexual situations way beyond what they’d ever want to experience.

Psychology Today -Don’t Call Them “Rape Fantasies”

Study after study has revealed that one of women’s most popular erotic fantasies is being raped. Yet the fundamental dynamics of such fantasies has almost nothing to do with such a heinous act—which isn’t simply aggressive, but coercive, violent, and at times even life-threatening. After all, a woman’s feeling scared out of her mind is hardly conducive to sexual arousal.

NIH - The nature of women's rape fantasies: an analysis of prevalence, frequency, and contents.

This study evaluated the rape fantasies of female undergraduates (N = 355) using a fantasy checklist that reflected the legal definition of rape and a sexual fantasy log that included systematic prompts and self-ratings. Results indicated that 62% of women have had a rape fantasy, which is somewhat higher than previous estimates.

Wikipedia

Studies have found rape fantasy is a common sexual fantasy among both men and women. The fantasy may involve the fantasist as either the one being forced into sex or as the perpetrator. A 1974 study by Hariton and Singer[1] found that being "overpowered or forced to surrender" was the second most frequent fantasy in their survey; a 1984 study by Knafo and Jaffe ranked being overpowered as their study's most common fantasy during intercourse. In 1985, Louis H. Janda who is an associate professor of psychology at Old Dominion University[2] said that the sexual fantasy of being raped is the most common sexual fantasy for women.[3] A 1988 study by Pelletier and Herold found that over half of their female respondents had fantasies of forced sex.[4]

More to the point, the bit was just the dramatic lines of a larger work that was about gender roles. Did you not read the rest of it? Don't take my word for it: breakdown at NPR.

a reply to: matafuchs

Donald Trump lies constantly. So much so that it's his first response in any situation it seems. Just like this weird making up a PR person to brag about himself debacle. I find that even more disconcerting than lying about an affair because lying about an affair is a fairly common thing for people to do, under oath or not. What Donald Trump was doing was some next level deceit.

Not to mention the fact that he just lied about it when confronted with the story.

You keep saying you have some problem with lying but then you turn around and ignore Donald Trump's lying. So you only have trouble with people who aren't Donald Trump lying?

a reply to: theantediluvian

He leaked information about himself? Uh, who did this hurt and why does it matter? TBH, a lot of people do that when they need publicity. Bands...actors....politicians. It is not deceit. Read the article. They laughed at him. It is quite funny but harmless.

He says it was not me and let's talk about issues. Is that not what we want in our candidates? To talk about issues and not phone messages for 20-30 years ago?

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: matafuchs

There were four charges and 2 were brought forward. It was for lying about Lewinski and his sexual harassment case with Paula Jones. Clinton was a disgrace. He did not even try to cover it up. If Hillary wants to stay so they can be a power couple, that is fine but more than likely it is because her and Huma like to 'hang out'....

Ridiculous.

You think Trump and Melania would be together if he wasn't rich? Hell no you don't and neither does anyone else yet I have yet to see you calling her a gold digger.

Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are both philanders. I personally could care a less about philandering but here again, you seem to have arbitrarily different standards for the Trumps and Clintons — Bill is a "disgrace" for his indiscretions and lying and Donald Trump is unfairly maligned for his lying and indiscretions? If that stuff matters so much to you, it's not too late to throw your support behind Bernie who has no scandals and isn't noted for his lying.

Melania was already a self made millionaire, no need to dig for gold. Very nasty of you to suggest that...

originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: mkultra11
The NY Times had credibility? I think that they took care of that years ago.

The New York Times is reaching a new low in Sleaziness... even for them! I'm sure the paper doesn't even have the integrity to apologize, now that the so called "trump victim" has denounced their anti-Trump story as twisted and wrong.

For argument's sake, let's say that Donald Trump had private parties with babes back in the day. How does that compare to the people who have LITERALLY DIED due to Hillary's actions and inactions?

It that twisted "hot babe" story the best that the Democrat media can come up with? If so, Trump's victory should be assured, if Americans use their brains in the voting booth this November.

a reply to: Profusion

First girl they interviewed came out and exclaimed how pissed off she was that they used bits and pieces of her story and twisted the rest. She said they lied about what she said about Trump. And coming from that liberal rag, I believe it.

As for Trump being Biff Tannen... Well:

We'll start with the "coincidence" piece.
According to campaign donation records, Zemeckis has frequently contributed to political candidates affiliated with the Democratic Party.

Now we'll move on to the reality piece...
It's true that Gale claimed in October 2015 that Biff Tannen was based (entirely or in part) on Donald Trump. It's even possible that Gale believed that the character's inspiration hinged on a real-life figure who (in his view) came to closely match Tannen in 2015.

But Trump was a relatively minor celebrity in 1985, known mostly in the New York City area as a real estate developer. Trump's reality TV show The Apprentice was still many years away, as was any serious indication Trump would ever leave real estate to enter politics. If Trump indeed crossed Gale and Zemeckis' minds when Tannen was being developed in the years prior to the 1985 film, neither thought to mention it until after Sanders/Trump comparisons began appearing on social media in late 2015.

A minor-league Manhattan businessman very well could have appeared on the radar of two Hollywood producers, but the "prediction" of Trump by Back to the Future appeared to be retrofitted to 2015's current events, not prescience on the part of the filmmakers in 1985.

And good luck finding a story prior to 2015 where Zemeckis or Gale claimed that Biff's character was based on Trump. Next we'll be hearing about how Biff's 1885 character, coincidentally, was based on Butch Cassidy.

a reply to: Profusion

Yo, you won't find a single story about that before 2015... Please don't be so naive. You've been duped by the BttF writers because you didn't bother to research what they told you.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: butcherguy
Not by Hillary.

Not sure what you mean... Are you saying that Hillary didn't impeach him?

This NYT piece is a hit piece for sure. And yes, FOX (and other conservative outlets) does hit pieces on Hilllary. But to suggest that Bill Clinton was given a pass for his womanizing is ridiculous! The whole country was glued to their TVs and the man was impeached.

Not to mention that it has NOTHING to do with Hillary. If SHE was the one using men, then there might be something to say about it, but using Bill's exploits to tarnish Hillary is just ... stupid. He's not running for president. She was the VICTIM of a womanizer and trying to make her somehow responsible is just going to turn more and more women against Trump, since his message is that Hillary is somehow to blame for her husband's affairs.

What I mean is that Hillary 'stood by her man'.
Her choice, to be sure, but also a choice that she has to live with in more ways than one.
She actively went about destroying the names of the women that were brave enough to tell their stories about Bill. Some of them were beaten by Bill, according to their stories.

As far as the impeachment goes, Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath.... not for womanizing.

Guarantee you, too, that if she knew she could get more votes, she'd throw Bill under the bus faster than you could say...........

originally posted by: olaru12
Let me make a small prediction here.

Donald is SOL.

Just like Trump won't last 6 weeks...

Just like Trump won't make it to the first caucus...

Just like Trump won't make it past New Hampshire...

Just like Trump won't ever get to 50% without there being 2 people in the race...

And my favorite prediction so far.... Trump will never get past Hillary and be president...

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Sillyolme

What did he do illegally? Nothing. And as far as the woman, she was trying to squeeze them and she lost. It happens all the time but suddenly he is kicking old ladies into the street. If she would have settled with the original offers she would have retired to Miami....she had a choice. They all did. She was greedy and lost.


He likes hot women. What is wrong with this?????

Hot women are offensive to southpaws because being good looking gives them too many privileges. Lefties prefer the looks of women like Hillary and Yoko Ono.

a reply to: Sillyolme

His impeachment didn't have anything to do with his womanizing, did it?

If Trump takes out this paper or someone else sues the pants of them I am going to laugh so hard.

It's pretty clear Trump is 10 steps ahead of the media on everything at this point.

Their attacks make him stronger.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Well, Hillary essentially murdered 4, lied to the families of the murdered victims, and look at her... And look at you... Ooooooh the irony...

a reply to: theantediluvian

Ok, you've read the article... Have you listened to her interview?