Donald Trump And The Number 47 - Is Trump The Antichrist?

I am not sure if this is the right forum section for this topic, so if it should be in one of the political sections, the mods can feel free to move it.

First, let me state that I am not saying that Donald Trump is the Biblical Antichrist. Every time a topic like this comes up, some people will accuse anyone discussing the possibility of someone being The Antichrist of, "predicting" or "prophesying" that so and so "is The Antichrist". I am doing no such thing here, and I want that to be made clear. I am merely wanting to discuss the possibility of this, and to discuss the topic. I am not saying Trump is or is not The Antichrist, nor am I making any predictions or prophecies. So please don't falsely accuse me of that here. I am just interested in having a discussion about the subject, as a possibility.

Second, every time one of these Antichrist discussions come up, some people say, "there is no character in the Bible called 'The Antichrist'". This happens every time an Antichrist discussion arises. I am talking about The Beast of Revelation, which the Catholic church calls, "The Antichrist". Some of the names the Bible gives for this character are as follows:

CHAPTER FOUR. NAMES AND TITLES OF THE ANTICHRIST.

"The Beast"
"The Lawless One"
"The Son of Perdition"
"The Man of Sin"
"The Bloody and Deceitful Man"
"The Wicked One"
"The Man of The Earth"
"The Mighty Man"
"The Enemy"
"The Adversary"
"The Head Over Many Countries"
"The Violent Man"
"The Assyrian"
"The King of Babylon"
"Son of the Morning"
"The Spoiler"
"The Nail"
"The Branch of the Terrible Ones"
"The Profane and Wicked Prince of Israel"
"The Little Horn"
"The Prince That Shall Come"
"The Willful King"
"The Vile Person"
"The Idol Shepherd"
"The Angel of the Bottomless Pit"
"Abaddon"
"Apollyon"
"Destroyer"
"The Rod of God's Anger"
"The Unclean Spirit"
"The Lie"
"A Star"
"The Vine of the Earth"

There are also these names given for The Beast (what the Catholic church calls The Antichrist), that are ascribed in The Bible and/or in Satanic worship:

THE ARCHANGEL. (War In Heaven.) Rev. 12:7-12.

"The Prince of the Air"
"The Prince of Principalities"
"The Man of Peace"
"The Prince of Darkness"
"The God of This World"
"The Prince of the Powers of the Air"
"The Great Dragon"
"The Dragon"
"The Red Dragon"

etc., etc., etc. There are many, many such names describing this character that is commonly known in today's pop culture as "The Antichrist". So this is what I am talking about here. So please spare me the usual litany of "there is no such character called 'The Antichrist' in the Bible" posts.

Third - let's get to the topic at hand.

Mashiac ben Yosef

"The Antichrist" is supposed to be the Mashiac Ben David ("The Messiah The Descendant of David") to Jews. This is the "Messiah" that Judaism awaits, because it does not accept Jesus Christ as the correct "Messiah".

The Catholic church calls the Mashiac Ben David "The Antichrist".

So, "The Antichrist" is supposed to have a Jewish lineage and a direct line of descent from King David. Otherwise, he would not be accepted as the "The Messiah". In Hebrew, the practice of assigning number values to words, letters, names, and phrases (Gematria) is a common practice. So what happens when we take the name Donald Trump, and break it down to a number value, using Hebrew Gematria, and then reduce it, which is what is typically done?

Donald Trump in Hebrew is דונאלד טראמפ

Gematria Calculator

In Hebrew Gematria, the name Donald Trump, written as דונאלד טראמפ equals to a number value of 47, when it is reduced. Use the Gematria calculator at the above website, and click on the Hebrew Reduction tab. Then enter דונאלד טראמפ (the name Donald Trump in Hebrew). Then click on the calculate tab. The result is the number 47.

Now, let's take a look at some Bible symbolism of the number 47:

Properties of the number 47

Symbolism

According to R. Allendy, this number represents "the evolution, 7, continuing in the eternal mechanism of the world, 40, by a personal effort and a fight - 4+7 = 11; 1+1 = 2". Forty seven is considered as being the number of the Law.

Gematria

It is the numerical value of the verse of the Genesis where it is written: And God saw that it was good. One day the Lord tells to Vassula that the new Name that he carried was Y H Sh W H. By using the gematria in "n", the numerical value of this name is 47 = 10+5+21+6+5. This Name of glory was given to Jesus, the innocent Victim, after his death. The Just to justify us becomes himself curse, since it is written: "Anyone hanged is accursed" (Ga 3,13). And "accursed" in Hebrew gives also 47 = 1+20+6+20. The psalm 47 is the first song of the divine Reign. It talks about the union of the nations as only one people to which unite the descendants of Abraham so as to rent the Eternal under only one chief, the Christ. The last word of this psalm is "climbed", numbering 47 = 14+16+12+5, like the Name of Jesus glorified Y H Sh W H = 47.

Occurrence

The name of Adam, the word leprosy and the verb to stone are used 47 times in the Bible. In the three synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) 47 times it is spoken about demons.

Discuss please. And please keep the discussion civil. Thanks.

edit on 11-5-2016 by Red Cloak because: grammar

Well, he's a Republican...so, No.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Well, he's a Republican...so, No.

I'm sure many here would argue that makes for one more sign in favor of this hypothesis.

All Republicans are cold-hearted and evil.

But didn't we just get done discussing whether or not he's Jesus reborn about two weeks ago?

Besides, he's still on doom porn watch. He's supposed to be assassinated before the end of this month ... May 23 I think.

You win the prize.

The first thread, subtle but clear.

I knew somebody would come along calling Trump the anti-Christ.

Here's your trophy 🏆

O god...(see what i did there)
Not this again.

In the Bible it says in the book of Ezekiel that the Anti-Christ is wise and there are no secrets that can be kept from him.

Donald Trump didn't even know his own party's rules in some state primaries.

Donald Trump is not the anti-Christ.

Huh... So the catholics have set up their anti-christ myth so that any messiah embraced by the jews is automatically the anti-christ? Man, thats a long time to hold a grudge.


Not a Trump fan, but doubt he's the anti-Christ. if that's the case, is the "Mark of the beast" a bad spray-tan or a comb-over?

Honestly, the anti-christ stuff just sounds like a prohibition to following anyone else that seems to have christ-like qualities. Just a scheme to make sure your followers aren't stolen by another convincing messiah.

He's performing miracles? He must be the anti-christ
advocate world peace? Anti-christ
Returning to life after a mortal wound? Anti-christ

I give 50/50 chance that if Jesus Christ did return he'd be rejected as the anti-christ.

a reply to: Red Cloak

The link was the non sensical manipulative nature of numerology which has ZERO to do with gematria which is the letters of an alphabet equaling numbers.There is no symbolism in gematria it is only the symbology of numerology to those whom believe in it.The premise of your thread is like saying please let's not bring up the fact that Tinkerbell doesn’t exist let’s discuss how she can fly.

The very clear fact is the Catholic Church (and the majority of the rest of Christianity) are very incorrect.There is ZERO mention of a person the ANTICHRIST in the scripture.It is used a total of 5 times exclusively by the apostle John in his “letters”. it is always a group of people(eclessia…church) or the spirit of antichrist NEVER an individual bogeyman religion believes.It means in place of(anti) christ( the anointing).Yahoshua very clearly disseminated who these antichrist were when he warned the disciples:

“Do not be deceived. For MANY will come in my name and SAY they are “christ”[anointed] and deceive many”.

This is very clearly only one group of people (church)..Christianity.The myopia of that link writer is right in front of their nose yet they can’t see it.First Donald John Trump is his name and he is not Hebrew so his name cannot be “translated” into Hebrew.There is a gematria called English sumerian where the letters are multiples of 6.ex:
A=6-B=12-C=18 ETC ETC

Donald=300
John=282
Trump=528

300+282+528=1110

The only thing correct in that link about 47 (and your title) is in English ordinal gematria
A=1-B=2-C=3 etc etc

Donald=50
John=47
Trump=88
50+47+88=185

185x6=1110
185x8=1480

The new testament was written in Greek.The translation of the Hebrew name Yahoshua(a transliteration to English) is Ἰησοῦς transliterated Iesous to English (the Christians call Jesus)christ is Χριστός=christos .Greek gematria is called isopsephy the root of the word psēphizō … to calculate …used in the infamous Revelation 13:8 “antichrist”verse.

Ἰησοῦς=888
Χριστός=1480

If someone is going to concoct a ridiculous theory about an ANTICHRIST that is Donald John Trump they should at least know some basic simple facts without manipulating the math like this link and making preposterous assumptions.The simple calculations I just made are much more plausible.To add fuel to the false flame.This is a triple Pythagorean right triangle using triple digit(the trinity!!) numbers.

666²+888²=1110²

This clearly means Donald John Trump(the future POTUS) is the ANTICHRIST…

a reply to: Red Cloak
But haven't you suggested previously that Arnold Schwarzenegger was the Antichrist?
Arnold
So which theory is right?

As is often pointed out here...Trump was not his original family name.
That would change the Hebrew translation and numerical derivative of 47.

I am 47 this june 18th. Should I be worried?

originally posted by: kenzohattori69
I am 47 this june 18th. Should I be worried?

Depends. Do you plan on taking over the world?

- Is Trump The Antichrist?

Yea! But look how hard it is for him to get traction with the more evil beings on this planet known commonly as politicians.

No rest for the wicked

a reply to: Red Cloak

In direct response to the title question....ummm, no! Definately not the Antichrist with that hair.

a reply to: Red Cloak

Since this thread has been posted, Trumps' numbers have gone up 18 percentage points. This only proves that he can announce himself as the Antichrist and folks will still flock to him.

Is this some sort of political ad for him? I don't think those are allowed.

We are doomed.

i happen to see a pattern of the subject of mind control arise with the #47 in games and movies.

a reply to: DISRAELI

You're Squidward, I'm Squidward--we're all Squidward.

a reply to: Rex282

I made it clear in the first post that I was referring to the names mentioned in the Bible. The Catholic church calls that the Antichrist, because the Bible lists so many different names. I asked please not to start that with claiming I said the Bible named the character as The Antichrist.

I am well aware it did not, and made that very clear in the first post.

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Red Cloak
But haven't you suggested previously that Arnold Schwarzenegger was the Antichrist?
Arnold
So which theory is right?

No, I have not. Just like I did not suggest Trump is The Antichrist here. It is not a theory of mine either way. I merely asked for a discussion about the possibility in both cases, just as I clearly stated here. Please do not imply I am saying things I am not. Thank you.

47 is a great number; think in terms of your body's energy centers

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