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Indian navy indigenous 3,0000 million rupee aircraft carrier on way

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posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 11:52 AM
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Indian Navy has started construction of an indigenous aircraft carrier with a 40,000 tonne displacement capacity at an estimated cost of Rs 3,000 crore, Navy Chief Admiral Arun Prakash said today.

"Besides acquiring the `Gorshkov' aircraft carrier from Russia, the Indian navy has also started construction -- at its Cochin Shipyard -- of a totally indigenous aircraft carrier with a capacity of 25 aircraft," Admiral Prakash told reporters after the 69th passing out parade at the Naval Academy here.

"The government has sanctioned Rs 3,000 crore so far," he said.

When asked about the acquisition of a nuclear sub-marine for the Indian Navy, the Naval chief declined to comment on the issue saying it is for the government to take a decision in the matter.

However, he admitted "we would have to acquire a nuclear sub-marine eventually." Downplaying the apparent shortage of officers his service is facing, the Navy chief said "we are short of only 100 officers or so. This is not a matter of concern for us right now as this shortage is mainly due to our limited training facilities which are in the process of expanding.

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posted on Jan, 14 2005 @ 02:53 PM
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hmmm interesting..when is the completion date set for?
What aircraft would it be carrying??LCA??...
And doesn't 25 aircraft seem a bit too less??At least looking at it from the USN point of view..w/o the ski jump hump and all..what are the dimensions??Is it similar to the smaller Harrier type carriers or the larger Nimitz class?



posted on Jan, 18 2005 @ 05:14 AM
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ads

is this what it is?
that would be awesome.



posted on Jan, 18 2005 @ 06:02 AM
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Yup thats it....Didn't know that the Italian Navy had carriers!!


which other countries have carriers, besides the 6 I know of..??



posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 12:58 PM
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Why cant they give the Vikrant a refit too , thus making it operational again.
Will the Virrat be retired, when ?

Besides, 16 new MiG-29Ks have been ordered by India to equip the Admiral Gorshkov carrier.

source : www.airforce-technology.com...

The ADS looks cool

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*Shrunk picture size*

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posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 06:19 AM
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The Vikratn is WW II stuff dude, its retired, gone, Its infact a floating Museum, about a klick of the Mumbai shoreline; I've been aboard, being on the carrier deck is quite a thrill..
The Viraat will be retired in about 2008-9..wonder what'll happen to all those Harriers then..



posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 10:38 AM
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Interesting thread, I wonder if the carrier is either a completely indigenous design or has some foreign technology sipping in... Building a good carrier is an immense task. Apart from the US, only France, Brasil and India (and possibly China) have carriers worth this name right now. And the Charles de Gaulle is not living up to the expectations. The Brasilians, after purchasing the Foch from the French, are right now a little stripped for cash, so I guess they'll have to defer the purchase of a new carrier-borne fighter and to cancel the much needed upgrades. Italy, Spain, Thailand and the UK don't have true carriers right now, but flight-deck cruisers equipped for the operations of VSTOL aircrafts (various Harrier versions) and helicopters. Italy is currently building a bigger unit which will, probably, be equipped with VSTOL F35s, since it won't have the conventional carrier equipment. The UK will start building a new family of true carriers in the immediate future, which will be equipped with the "naval" F35s. France has expressed interest in this very program, since the Charles de Gaulle design has proven to be unsatisfactory, and designing a new carrier from scratch will be very, very expensive. Spain and Thailand both use the same design (Principe de Asturias), developed by Spanish shipyards Bazan out of commercial technologies and components. It's a neat little ship, quite reliable and cheap to run, although its survival in "hot" waters is another matter completely. A last note: Thailand even use Spanish planes. When Spain purchased the Matador 2 (roughly the US AV8B) they sold their old Matador fighters (roughly the same as first generation US AV8 and UK GR) to Thailand.



posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 10:56 AM
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The above post ^^ seems more interesting than the thread....I didn't know that Brasil had a carrier and that thailand was acquiring one...Maybe a carrier fleets of the world thread is in order..



posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 11:14 AM
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Slightly off topic, here is the Thai aircraft carrier. The Foch is known as Sao Paulo in Brazilian service: it is equipped with ex-Kuwaiti A4KU attack planes. I haven't been able to find out more, since the Brazilian Navy site is sooo slow.



posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 11:28 AM
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Yeah I did some reaearch of me own and came up with this site, pretty indepth..

www.hazegray.org...



posted on Jan, 24 2005 @ 03:37 AM
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another source :
The Navy will have its first indigenously built aircraft carrier by the year 2011-12, Controller of Warship Production and Acquisition, Naval Headquarters, Vice-Admiral J S Bedi.

"We will have our first indigenously built aircraft carrier by 2011-12. The steel cutting for the vessel will begin in March next year", Vice-Admiral Bedi said on the sidelines of the launch of the Navy's Fast Attack Craft 'INS Bitra' at the premises of the Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE) in Kolkata.

The carrier would weigh 37,500 tonne and would carry upto 34 aircraft of different types, he said, adding that while initial production cost had been fixed at Rs 3,500 crore, it was likely to be revised upward. Bedi said that the Navy was negotiating with a French company for acquisition of 'Scorpene' class submarines and was waiting for Government clearance to acquire them.

In reply to a question, he said that the Navy had earlier acquired two indigenously built diesel-powered submarines, but their further production was stopped on instructions from the Centre. ''The Navy now wants Government sanction for resumption of production of such subs.

According to Bedi, nearly 95 per cent indigenisation has been achieved in the construction of smaller vessels like Fast Attack Craft (FAC). For the bigger vessels, indigenisation is 70 per cent.

www.aeroindianews.com...



posted on Jan, 24 2005 @ 08:57 AM
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I guess indigenous products have thier benefit but whats more important is saving money so if something cheaper to buy than develop then


The carrier is due for 2011..lets say worst case scenario..2015 and the viraat retired latest say 2012.. that still means India is w/o a carrier for at least 2 years....



posted on Jan, 24 2005 @ 10:04 PM
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That is why Gorshkov/Vikramaditya is there



posted on Jan, 24 2005 @ 11:26 PM
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When Is the Gorshkov due to be inducted?



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 02:25 AM
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It will be inducted c.2009

Before refit:


After refit:




MiG-29K:



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 03:11 AM
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Very very promisnig indeed

MiG29K superior to the F-18??
That MiG-29k looks different from the normal MiG 29...The cockpit looks more modern,bulbous, and the fuselage looks different too..

Old Mig-29


[edit on 28-1-2005 by Daedalus3]



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by Stealth Spy
69th passing out parade


Is that the parade where everybody gets drunk, and nobody knows how it ends?



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 10:46 AM
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^^ hehe.. that number dos have a special significance to it..


Unfortunate for the cadets who passed out in that batch..

"haha..looke at tht guy..he's a 69er"


"Im from the 69th course....ahemmm..
"



posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 11:57 AM
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related article :




India will soon join the select band of three countries making heavy aircraft carriers when Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee launches construction work on the 37,500 tonne displacement indigenous carrier at Kochi on April 11.

The carrier, designed to operate a mix of Russian Mig-29K - naval version of the light combat aircraft, sea harriers, advance light helicopters and anti-submarine and maritime reconaissance Kamov-31 helicopters, is expected to be delivered by the Kochi Shipyard by early 2012, Vice Admiral Yashwant Prasad, Vice Chief of the Naval Staff, told newsmen here.

So far only United States, France and United Kingdom have the expertise in manufacturing aircraft carriers. The Russian Navy after building two carriers of over 40,000 displacement has stopped manufacturing air defence ships.

One of these carriers Admiral Gorshkov is currently undergoing refit for the Indian Navy and would be delivered by 2008.

The 252 metre-long indigenous carrier is capable of reaching top speeds of 28 knots and would carry 160 officers and 1,400 sailors having two runways with 200 metre-long ski jumps and a landing deck.

Powered by four LM2500 Gas turbines, the carrier would have an endurance of 7,500 nautical miles staying in high seas for over 45 days at a strech. Prasad said the warship would be capable of carrying a maximum of 30 fighters and 17 of them can be accommodated in the hangars.


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posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 12:00 PM
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India will start receiving the first carrier-based MiG-29K multi-role fighters from Russia in 2007, a year ahead of schedule.

The first batch of few MiG-29KUB would be delivered towards the middle of 2007, in time for Indian Navy to train the first batch of its pilots, a top official of Russian Aircraft building Corporation (RSK), the manufacturers of the MiG range of fighters, told PTI.

He said that RSK would deliver Navy's entire order of 16 MiG-29K by 2009. The Russian team is here to finalise the training schedule for the Indian Naval pilots.

While the first batch of naval pilots would be trained in Russia, India is subsequently planning to operate the MiG-29K for training purposes from its shore-based Dabolim airbase in Goa.

Under a Rs 3,256 crore (740 million dollar) deal, signed in January, 2004, Navy is to acquire 12 MiG-29k Single seater combat aircraft and four two-seater MiG-29KUB operational trainers. The deal also includes airborne armaments, maintenance, personnel training, plus the supply of simulators, spare parts and servicing.

The naval version of the MiG-29 is yet to enter service and India would be the launch customer for the multi-role aircraft, which can operate from ski-jump platform. Russian officials said that the fighters would be fully operational by April, 2008, when the Carrier Gorshkov is scheduled to be delivered.

Under the contract, the Navy has an open option of buying another 30 MiG-29K with deliveries upto 2015 for its new 32,000 tonne air defence warship, now being built at Kochi docks, the Russian official said.

The Naval MiG-29k would field an upgraded Zhuk-MF radar and associated systems, which would offer full compatibility with a wide range of Russian as well as Western weapons systems, he said.

He said that Indian and Russian experts were also working out modifications in the multi-role involving moving wing fold inboard to the wing root and folding the tail stabilators to reduce overall stowage space.

This would allow the refurbished Russian carrier to accommodate a full air wing of upto 24 MiG-29ks as well as six Kamov-28 and KA-31 helicopters. The naval fighters would field thrust vectoring engines and the MiG-29k, being acquired by India, would have a range of 2,200 kms.

The aircraft will also feature a fully retractable air-refuelling probe, the official said.
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