I am trying to learn magic

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: nonspecific

What happened? Only if you don't mind answering, don't want to bring bad stuff back.

Anyone looking into this should think carefully about the story of pandora's box and then think about it some more.

This is a very good analogy

I would be very interested in hearing about your experiences as well.

The Big Guy Story Isn't As Effective As You Lead On To Believe...
In My Experience... It Is... In His Own Words... You Got Yourself Into It... You Get Yourself Out.
I Never Played With Magic. But Nevertheless I'm A Victim Of It.
I Don't Harbor Ill Wills And Childish Emotions... But I Can Honestly See The Impact It Has On Me.
The Big Guy... Is Not My Pal... Never Was... Never Is... And Never Will Be. I'm On My Own.

So as i understand it;

first step.

Find your totem



and it wasnt Cthulhu



Second is the intent of the words and not the words..




Now time to look for some cheaters

Hint...

You're the rabbit.

CF

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There Are Those Who Believe You Should Meet Them Half Way... Or That You Should Believe In Them. I Just Leave Those Right Where I Found Them... And Carry On.
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a reply to: nonspecific
In answer to your question, yes, I have thought I am something 'more' but I have put that down to the ego of the self, maybe hoping I am more than I am... But ultimately I'm a lowly human caught in the rat race. I meditated a lot in the past, I researched the ideas of collective consciousness... But I always fall back into just bobbing along in life.

a reply to: Misterlondon
I'll try it. I can't try it right now, there are too many distractions and my brain is allover. If I hoped to heal someone I would probably imagine them dying - that is how muddled my brain is now and if I do this I need to do it properly.

You should probably learn banishing rituals before you haphazardly run headfirst into something as retarded as necromancy.

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: nonspecific
In answer to your question, yes, I have thought I am something 'more' but I have put that down to the ego of the self, maybe hoping I am more than I am... But ultimately I'm a lowly human caught in the rat race. I meditated a lot in the past, I researched the ideas of collective consciousness... But I always fall back into just bobbing along in life.

You have been tricked into the belief that you are just a lowly human and the rat race has been artificially created to keep you that way

Most magical teachings agree that the first thing you need to loose in order to proceed is your ego, once you let that go you are free to become whatever you want.

Another thing that is beneficial is understanding transience, both from your own mortality in this incarnation and that of the material possessions you think you "own".

Here's a little thing that is not as easy as you think, take something that you really like or even "love" not something you need like a laptop or a car but something that has personal value to you, a keepsake or something pretty but useless.

Give it to someone who may appreciate it and see how you feel about it, if you are inclined to regret giving it away then you need to take a step back and look at what you actually think is important.

I gave my 12 string guitar away a while back to a mate that could not afford one and really liked mine, At the end of the day it was just a thing, a nice thing but a thing non the less and it made him a very happy chap and that is when you really think about it more important than some wood and metal that will one day be gone anyway.

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: nonspecific
In answer to your question, yes, I have thought I am something 'more' but I have put that down to the ego of the self, maybe hoping I am more than I am... But ultimately I'm a lowly human caught in the rat race. I meditated a lot in the past, I researched the ideas of collective consciousness... But I always fall back into just bobbing along in life.

a reply to: Misterlondon
I'll try it. I can't try it right now, there are too many distractions and my brain is allover. If I hoped to heal someone I would probably imagine them dying - that is how muddled my brain is now and if I do this I need to do it properly.

Just for now you can just ask the universe for something you desire.. You don't think about what you want you just ask the universe to give you something, and set a time limit, 48 hours is good enough.

In regards to future positive thinking, you need to learn to expel the negative thoughts. It is normal human function for those thoughts to manifest. If they do acknowledge them and ask them to leave.
There are other techniques you can use to do this as well, like tying then to a balloon etc.

You need to also try and find mindfulness, a good start would be to find a quite spot, a woods is always a good place, go there and try and concentrate on the things around you only.
For example feel the warmth of the sun on your skin and feel the breeze on your face, just listen to the noises around you.. Birds signing, the rustling of the trees, noises of animals walking on the falls debris.
Look at the colours and different shades of light.
Try to clear your mind just concentrate on the sensations around you, listen to your own breathing, taking deep breathes through you nose and out of your mouth, with this air cleansing you inside.
After some time your mind will clear and the sensations and sounds will increase. You will begin to notice this you haven't noticed before, thinga will appear to be different around you.
This will be a good start for now, learning more techniques once you master those.

a reply to: Misterlondon

I think that another thing that is important to understand is the difference between want and need.

They are two very different things and understanding the difference is a valuable lesson.

a reply to: nonspecific

the first thing you need to loose in order to proceed is your ego, once you let that go you are free to become whatever you want

After trying to do this for years, I did it accidentally one day...did it twice, in fact.

I couldn't sleep that night. I was at an exciting trading conference but that was the furthest thing from my mind. All I could think about was that moment earlier in the day.

But an odd, and wonderful, discovery was that, in that state, I didn't want anything. There was no desire...just an awareness of the oneness and beauty of...of...I want to say "everything" but that is too limiting.

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Misterlondon

I think that another thing that is important to understand is the difference between want and need.

They are two very different things and understanding the difference is a valuable lesson.

Yes certainly.. Maslow's hierarchy of needs outlines this nicely. Although we naturally want things to help us achieve those needs. Sometimes it is the wrong things people wish for and when those needs are not met can be harmful of someones psyche.

You gave an example of giving away your guitar, now if someone felt they that belongingness and self esteem, and the best way they know how to do that would be to share their thoughts and feelings in music.. Then they would want and need that item.
Probably not a great example but just trying to fit your example In to it.

originally posted by: PanPiper
a reply to: Pinocchio

So if i were to start with " necromancing " which books is it? and what is it?

you need a fresh collection of dead folks first. Necromancy is cool, necrophilia is weird because they can't say no.

Check this if you wanna become a living dudebro and like...totally summon the awesome spirits of the dead bruh...

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a reply to: PanPiper

You must seek the guidance of the little ones who leap forth.

Just a warning OP.. take it or leave it.

Beware of "cheaters," there is always a price. It might be avoided for a time, but the taxman always collects.

"Losing" ego is a high order honey trap that displays how deeply we can deceive ourselves. Turning that firewall off is begging to be hacked, so to speak.

That said, our sense of self is highly malleable beyond just 'on' or 'off.' It is a good place to start, but most stop at the first major intersection.. thinking that such an experience must surely be the pinnacle.

a reply to: Pinocchio

Yeah go to work, increase a rich persons wealth, and if your lucky, really lucky, he might sh!t some spare change on you from a balcony.

OP

Let me know if it works, you seem skeptical so it would be easier to believe you, atleast slighty.

I can do magic! watch me make this beer disappear.

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