George Knapp interviews Tom DeLonge about his big project

originally posted by: Davg80
a reply to: RoScoLaz5

yes thats what i think too, what i was getting at was the information he knows must be explosive, and he must be expecting this information to gather such attention that it will see his books getting made into movies that are on the same level as the biggest movie franchise there is.

Or his "contacts" are choosing to go all in on their support (Psyop support or even special effects support).

Or much more likely they have convinced him of their mammoth support but will leave him high and dry when he least expects it.

(Read "Messengers of Deception" and similar books for examples).

Kev

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: RoScoLaz5

originally posted by: Davg80 he wont be making nothing out of me

the man is a multi-millionaire. i take that as meaning it's likely that his present course is a labour of love/belief, in no way financially motivated. i'd infer that financial gain is the least of it.

Agreed on principal, but having seen how many ufo researchers have been used/used the ufo community, it is hardly surprising that some people are just angry about all this.

The evidence, let's see that then decide I say.

Damn right we're angry because the evidence presented so far has been a big stinkin pile of deceptive, fabricated, scripted, manufactured BS.

Do you think that's gonna change just because a rockstar has entered the picture. Yeah, I question the motivation!


evidence....

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Jonjonj

Well thanks.

The phenomenon I'm speaking about is "more than physical" actually, at least at it's most impressive.

When Dr. Vallee came to my house, one of the first things he asked me about was how these "UFOs" could be solid and also "not solid" sometimes at the same time or nearly the same time.

So I explained my theory about that.

I'm not divulging anything personal there...he asks that question all the time in his books.

My apologies that I'm not always clear.

And my positions slowly change like anyone else, as I acquire more and better information.

Of course I'm frequently wrong too...this "stuff" is HARD.

Kev

So here is my point, here we are, on ATS, easily the most important conspiracy website on the internet and someone can say as if it were nothing:

When Dr. Vallee came to my house, one of the first things he asked me about was how these "UFOs" could be solid and also "not solid" sometimes at the same time or nearly the same time.

Anyway, my point in a nutshell: I see you and I raise you a thread!

a reply to: schuyler
Fwiw

I looked onto those same things aswell after his ama and discovered same as you and concluded same as you..

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: Jonjonj

I don't want world shattering information to be a personal property, to be used for personal gain. I hate that, it is intrinsic in the UFO world, and not only on the side of those who hold the information.

Bravo!

Just flipping share it, cut the drip feeding through fiction. Just lay it out.

I believe we are beyond the drip feed stage, now we are onto the "It doesn't matter, I won't believe it anyway" stage. Even after the publicly released (and highly censored) British, French, Brasilian, Argentinian and other national defence files the media's incessant ridicule concerning the subject has achieved a goal they may never have wanted.

In the end, even if it were true, mankind would truly give less than two fecks.

a reply to: olaru12

I guess my idea is that I would not shoot the messenger, rather I would be interested in the message he carries. I get the angry bit though, i really do.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
The absurdity of many UFO stories and of many religious visions is not a superficial logical mistake. It may be the key to their function. According to Major Murphy, the confusion in the UFO mystery may have been put there deliberately to achieve certain results.

did a quick scan of this and it fits with my thoughts on the matter of these aliens "if" they exist and their goal, for instance Roswell happened just after WW2 and the usage of nuclear weapons, i believe if these ufos have crashed it has been deliberate and been done to show us that there are far more important things we need to turn our attention to, instead of trying to destroy each other and our planet, i would also say that the aliens retrieved are just the robots of a higher intelligence, that are disclosing things to our governments.

originally posted by: Davg80
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
The absurdity of many UFO stories and of many religious visions is not a superficial logical mistake. It may be the key to their function. According to Major Murphy, the confusion in the UFO mystery may have been put there deliberately to achieve certain results.

did a quick scan of this and it fits with my thoughts on the matter of these aliens "if" they exist and their goal, for instance Roswell happened just after WW2 and the usage of nuclear weapons, i believe if these ufos have crashed it has been deliberate and been done to show us that there are far more important things we need to turn our attention to, instead of trying to destroy each other and our planet, i would also say that the aliens retrieved are just the robots of a higher intelligence, that are disclosing things to our governments.

I used to believe the same thing, aliens are here with the best of intentions. The problem I have is that since the "aliens" crashed, our world has become rather a shadow of what it actually could have become.

We could have stopped using money as our principal goal given that we have given information to the common man, instead what we have are pay walls and secret vpn's.

We could have used medicines on a world wide scale and yet we are in a crisis regarding medicines, millions die when they don't have to.

We could have and we should have but...

I won't blame the aliens just yet, I think people are to blame for all our ills.

Maybe, as some have said, what is needed is a generational change, a lot of people might need to die in order to bring about the next change we actually want as a species.

But I am sure that would be a human decision, not an alien one.

a reply to: The GUT

There is no revenue stream for The Above Network in this at all. I find it intriguing for the multiple reasons I've already stated. I've met Tom and spoken with him many times and personally find him an honest man, honest men are RARE in this field.

There is no "conspiracy to promote" anything here.

sigh...

a reply to: Davg80

In my experience, all human maladies are either of human origin, or certain individuals "reach out" and attempt contact with "other intelligences", and on occasion succeed. But "other intelligences" do not possess "moral values". They possess self interest
And/or species interest just like we do.

Now, do humans feed off of each other and create nightmares in the world? Yes they do. Its called various things-religion,spirituality,politics and even some mild poltergeist/UFO type stuff.

Anything with a brain or brain analog and the ability to generate even super tiny EM fields, can on occasion cause a "butterfly effect".

Really in practice, It is generally not advisable to try and distinguish between human generated nonsense and "critter-assisted" nonsense.

Its a very thin line indeed.

Kev

a reply to: Jonjonj

As long as the "1%" mentality exists in the world, and the other 99% are relatively passive easy victims, we will live in our current world.

Kev

a reply to: Jonjonj

It's worth a post on my blog anyway. I do not like to create OP on ATS for a variety of reasons.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

One could even argue that the very point of a revelation such as that which Tom de Longe has undertaken is in fact for that very reason. One could. if one wanted.

I am all for a world change.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Jonjonj

It's worth a post on my blog anyway. I do not like to create OP on ATS for a variety of reasons.

Kev

Well played and thanks for your input.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

if i dont see a disclosure of some sorts regarding all this in my lifetime, then i hope to see a revolution that wipes out the 1%. then we can have a new world order, one of truth and equality.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

So until the USA comes out with that same material AND the even more interesting parts..then in my opinion they will still be deceiving us. It's really that simple.

"Messengers of Deception" springs to mind. Vallee may have been on to something.

oh I agree, with a splash of "operation Trojan Horse"

a reply to: stealthyaroura

The two concepts are rather ignorant of each other. How can there be a "messengers of deception" and a "Trojan horse" idea? Mutually exclusive aren't they?

Edit: I should explain. The idea of a messenger of deception is basically an idea that promotes unreality as a fact. If there is no reality there can not be a Trojan horse.

I hope I have been clear.

Heh, so the consensus is... so far... that mind coitus and ufo's are inseparable... either by design, or the phenomenon's very nature.. .or both.

Just doing my part to state the obvious (and be obtusely silly)! Also, love that the old guard elite has gathered around the campfire (elite on the 'good' side, I mean, our side, the side of relative truth.. .the "mind celibates," so-to-speak). Gathered, roasting their wienies and listening to the new drums sounding in the night with their indecipherable siren song.

But darn, the suspicions that someone is trying to sell us a "suspension (of disbelief) bridge in Brooklyn" just won't stop tickling my 'taint.

Well, either way, this process IS astounding! And if that old Project Bluebeam/Werner Von Braun warning is even true-ish, then who knows what Mobius Strip of logic/Vegas Show will be offered!

Lovely to see GUT (etc) again, too!

originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

One could even argue that the very point of a revelation such as that which Tom de Longe has undertaken is in fact for that very reason. One could. if one wanted.

I am all for a world change.

And the 1% he is "collaborating with" intend to help him overthrow themselves?

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Maybe the 1% are addicted to power and are vying for a forcible intervention??