Looks like GOP establishment will run Mitt Romney as Independent candidate

If they do this, might as well coronate Hillary right now. Never liked, in fact despise Bill Kristol, and this is another reason why.

In spite of his insistence that he will not run, Mitt Romney is being courted this week by a leading conservative commentator to reconsider and jump into the volatile 2016 presidential race as an independent candidate.

William Kristol, the longtime editor of the Weekly Standard magazine and a leading voice on the right, met privately with the 2012 nominee on Thursday afternoon to discuss the possibility of launching an independent bid, potentially with Romney as its standard-bearer.

www.washingtonpost.com... ndependent-bid/

We didn't want him last time. What makes them think we want him this time?

This is why they have Trump. Stuff like this... The people are tired of it and they still don't get it.

The party is circling the toilet and all of them are too deaf, dumb, and blind to take the correction folks are giving them to save it.

Mittens can go down with the ship as far as I am concerned. If that's one he wants to captain... Let him do it. It'll be his last.

a reply to: UnBreakable

He couldn't do it before...and he can't do it now.

As he is still what those who back Trump are against...career politicians.

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

Same thoughts exactly.

a reply to: UnBreakable

I think that the neo-cons, of which Kristol is a mouthpiece, see a Trump presidency as an unmitigated disaster and likely to be only a one term affair. This 'independent' party is an attempt to set the ground work for another conservative party come 2020

The reasons that Romney didn't win in 2012 have not gone away. I found this interesting article on the "missing 4 million voters". Some Highlights:

"But the bigger question remains – why did Mitt Romney receive less votes than both George W. Bush and John McCain? Surely many of these voters can be chalked up to younger voters, libertarians and Hispanic voters, as we’ve already discussed in previous segments. But the absent voter bloc that has gone largely unnoticed is evangelical Christians."

"A lot of factors went wrong for Mr. Romney. And this is really key. Early on, there was much speculation about whether evangelicals would support Mr. Romney. Number one, Romney was a Mormon which is viewed as a cult within the Christian community. Second, Mr. Romney was the first governor to sign gay marriage into law. Third, Mr. Romney was avidly pro-abortion earlier in the decade and in the decade before that."

"The thing to remember about religious voters is that unlike any other voting segment, they believe that history has already been written and they understand that even when someone terrible is elected, it is God’s will. This is a mindset that allows many people to sit out an election in a way that a union member or NRA supporter never could. They put their faith in God and that relieves them of certain responsibilities that other voters feel."

www.redstate.com...

Sal

a reply to: UnBreakable

What a bunch of idiots.

He lost in a landslide the last time.

This is such stupidity as to boggle the mind. This all but insures the Clintons will have their second go-round in the White House.

How they think this loser is going to save the day is quite beyond my mere mortal understanding.

O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'*, they sing, as our country sinks further into this insidious, odious quagmire.

*borrowed from Lewis Carroll's Jabberwocky.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

He's much more than a mouthpiece, though he does play one on television. He's very much a guiding force, in the same vein as the late William F. Buckley, though IMHO, not nearly as intelligent.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: UnBreakable

I think that the neo-cons, of which Kristol is a mouthpiece, see a Trump presidency as an unmitigated disaster and likely to be only a one term affair. This 'independent' party is an attempt to set the ground work for another conservative party come 2020

I agree. The idea is to give conservative voters an adult they can vote for besides Hillary. They probably won't win the election, but they will take votes away from Trump and get a sense of how many Republicans still share their core values. It could result in a serious third party candidacy in the next presidential election.

a reply to: seagull

I stand corrected You are right, more than a mouthpiece. And not nearly as intelligent.

a reply to: DJW001

Romney is everything Trump voters are voting against. Romney is not going to steal any votes from Trump.

And he is not going to get the ones that voted for Cruz. They are the voters that don't want a Mormon, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage president.

He might get some of the anti-Trump Republicans, but how did that work out in the primaries?

It would however result in tearing apart the Republican party even more.

Ah Ha Ha! Romney's a f$cking JOKE!

TRUMP BITCHES!!!!! HILLARY!!! WHATS THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!

a reply to: BlueAjah

Romney is everything Trump voters are voting against. Romney is not going to steal any votes from Trump.

No, but he might steal some votes from Hillary!

a reply to: UnBreakable


If the GOP Establishment couldn't garner the votes in the primaries they surely won't in the general election.

Where it would get interesting is both the GOP AND Cruz ran independently....LMAO.


The thought strikes as I post that this is a maneuver to either place an establishment V.P. on the ticket or some other concession from Trump to win support. Cruz for some significant position-SCOUS, or some such-....?

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: UnBreakable

I think that the neo-cons, of which Kristol is a mouthpiece, see a Trump presidency as an unmitigated disaster and likely to be only a one term affair. This 'independent' party is an attempt to set the ground work for another conservative party come 2020

I agree. The idea is to give conservative voters an adult they can vote for besides Hillary. They probably won't win the election, but they will take votes away from Trump and get a sense of how many Republicans still share their core values. It could result in a serious third party candidacy in the next presidential election.

Yep. They know Romney has absolutely no chance of winning, but this is an effort to stop Trump. And they will be successful. It already will be a close election, with Hillary having the advantage right now. Of course, Romney won't get a lot of votes, but just enough to take away from Trump and hand Clinton the WH. Have fun America, with another eight years of the Obama agenda.

a reply to: BlueAjah

He may not steal the votes from hard core Trump supporters...but he may, indeed, steal some of those inclined to vote for him simply because he's the GOP candidate, thereby splitting the GOP vote, and allowing Clinton to waltz into the White House.

The general election is much different from the primaries. There tends to be a lot more "plug the nose, and vote for the party." during the general election.

A Romney on the ballot may change that dynamic, in fact, I'd be surprised if it didn't.

how could a centrist and wall street guy be the centerpiece for a new conservative party?!?!? Funniest thing I've read all day.

I hope that this party is created and it sucks the pro-war, pro-banker, pro-status quo voters into a party where we then can possibly banish them.

Seriously who would vote for him? He is the embodiment of what everyone is mad about.

..............what? What the hell did I just read? Is Kristol crazy, or is he trying to split the party by claiming that only Conservatives can be in the Republicans these days, consigning the others to the outer wilderness???
Oh, what the hell bring it on. I've been predicting a GOP civil war for years. Can someone get me a lawn chair whilst I chill the beer and call the pizza place?

originally posted by: jellyrev
how could a centrist and wall street guy be the centerpiece for a new conservative party?!?!? Funniest thing I've read all day.

I hope that this party is created and it sucks the pro-war, pro-banker, pro-status quo voters into a party where we then can possibly banish them.

Seriously who would vote for him? He is the embodiment of what everyone is mad about.

But I thought that Romney was really, really, Conservative? Didn't he tell everyone that so very earnestly?

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Just the opposite of what the Democratic party did to conservatives like myself. We've pretty much been odd folks out since the late 70's, very early 80's.