If Bernie loses and supports Clinton instead of Trump, he's a shill

a reply to: DBCowboy

If you're wishing for an honest politician, or an honest man, you and Diogenes might want to just hunker down and hope for an EMP and a zombie apocalypse.

an honest politician is an oxymoron as far as I'm concerned.


However, the 2016 election between the Pimp vs the Prostitute should be entertaining , So we have that to look forward to.

Trump paying of congress and Hillary turning tricks for lobbyist.

a reply to: interupt42

That analogy had Me Loling.

That's so true its scary.

At least he's an admitted Pimp I can respect the honest aspect of it

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: amazing

You think she honestly believes in climate science and that its not a ploy to get votes?

Im having a hard time wrapping my critical mind around that one.

She's said she does and Trump as said he doesn't believe in Global warming. If all things are equal, then I have to pick the one that says she believes in science over the guy that says global warming is a Chinese conspiracy.

a reply to: onequestion

Is there a purpose to discussing individual hang ups of politicians? No politician will bring a substantial change regardless of supposed ethics and intentions. They are just human beings, not entitled or equipped to rule anyone, you see proof of this everyday. You can say "We are all human beings, we all make mistakes" and you would be correct. The problem is their mistakes affect everyone but themselves and fellow "Leaders".

So long as their are a small number of incredibly wealthy individuals, There will be a incredibly large number of poverty striken people.

a reply to: RevolutionAnon

They already changed the national conversation.

The best thing Bernie can do is quit as soon as he's eliminated and offer his name to Trump as his VP.

TrumpSanders2016 would be an unstoppable juggernaut.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: syrinx high priest

Maybe he really does love hispanics just the not the ones running the gang rapes and cartels.

maybe

I think its more likely after phase 1, which was to get free advertising and a core electorate by saying outrageous things, he moved onto phase 2 which was speak about china and foreign policy, which has quickly moved into phase 3 which is to start taking money and to appeal to the demographics that the GOP lost to obama on, women and minorities


you can't see through his tactics but you claim to have lost respect for bernie for backing his parties nominee ?

c'mon man

a reply to: babybunnies

I would love to see this duo come about, just to see the disappointment in the faces of those who had such faith this election could bring about real change for once.

I heard him talking about this giant wall he intends to build, the best part was his plan regarding the financial aspect: "I will force mexico to pay otherwise I will prevent immigrants from sending money home to their familys"? Truely inspirational. Most definately a quote for the ages, soon to rival Thomas jefferson and Kennedy no doubt. We will bully those who cannot fight back if you refuse to give us money.

The DNC will not even invite Bernie to the convention. There will be no platform and no bartering. The DNC will not let Bernie people boo Hillary in public...if that happens then maybe the Bernie people should think about a hate vote for Trump against Hilary. I like Bernie and Trump, Im not a bot for either, I don't see what the problem is. Just because you like someone in politics doesn't mean You have to go full on Jehovas witness about them.

Trump is a politician!

a reply to: Domo1

You gave money to a political candidate...

Bad domo! Bad! *smacks head*

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Right but everything Trump stands for goes against the establishment.

Please explain that.

Like what exactly? Has he talked about ending the fed? Has he talked about getting rid of citizens United & reinstating glass-steagel? I like a lot of what Trump says (from the little I follow politics via ATS) but the only thing anti-establishment about him as far as I can tell is he's never been in office before. I think we need any kind of non-lawyer non-career politician in POTUS but like others have said, he's a billionaire & anti-establishment he is not.

a reply to: MrSpad

It would seem to.

He's a Dem. He wants influence if she's elected. He's not going to cut his own throat politically by not backing his parties nominee.

originally posted by: onequestion
Thats right folks. After listening to Sanders anti establishment stance and his political rhetoric over during this election cycle then he has earned zero respect from me.

Well I guess he's not going to sleep tonight then.

a reply to: onequestion

Same party. Very similar views. Of course he will support her.

originally posted by: projectvxn
He could just not support anyone.

It would be the only principled approach.

It's what Rand Paul did.

Rand Paul: "I'll Support Trump if He Gets the Nomination"

If he gets the nomination...Sounds like Rand is still holding out hope for the Stop Trump Movement, but he hasn't taken the "principled" position of not supporting anyone.

originally posted by: MrSpad
Of course he is going to support Clinton. And in return for his support he will have influence on certain matters of policy. When your choices are some influence or no influence, you would be stupid to chose none. And of course he and Clinton have much in common voting together 93% of the time in the Senate where Sanders has voted with Democratic leadership 91% of the time and supported Obama's positions 93% of the time. While Sanders may have some out there ideas he is has always been a traditional Democrat. That is not going to change. All that and the fact Sanders finds Trump offensive.

You literally made that up, that is not true, at all.

Where are you getting these 93/91/93 figures from?

ATS has changed for the worse.

a reply to: onequestion

What else can Bernie do within the Democrat party when he doesn't get the nomination if he DOESN'T throw his support behind Clinton? I don't see any other way ahead for him. If he doesn't support the "Clinton" party, he'll be marginalized into oblivion. Wouldn't he and his supporters be better off if he does support Clinton which gives him and them the credentials with the party to work with it and within it to make the changes they want to see happen?

Then there's another thing..........what OF his supporters? They call themselves socialists I suppose, they aren't going to vote for Trump. I'd guess they'll either stay home, or more likely, horrified at the prospect of Trump, they'll throw their votes to Clinton. Honestly, what choice do they have? 4 years of Trump?

He would be an hypocrite, and if his supporters would be crushed by his defeat, they would be in pieces if he made that decision, but its a good wake up call in the end, it's a mistake to put all your hopes in a politician, they are all two faced liars, every single one of them, even if they aren't just before reaching power, once they feel it, they get rotten.

a reply to: projectvxn

Funny you that because Rand is about to announce his support for Trump because he said he would always support the nominee.