The Mandela Effect Can No Longer Be Denied: Berenstein Was The Tip of The Iceberg

a reply to: hidingthistime

The word milk hasn't changed it's spelling though. This borders on paranoid delusions imho.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: jacygirl

Hum. Check this link out. Google books, African American Chronology: Chronologies of the American Mosaic

I actually searched: Eli Whitney, Prince Hall. Thereby getting an "African American" result and there he is, listed as African American, er, black. What has you. He is not a Prince Hall Mason, so what is going on?

The date has changed as well..

The Black Eli Whitney patented the cotton gin on march 13 1794...
The White Eli Whitney patented the cotton gin on march 14 1794...

a reply to: Agartha

As this is an American, English-speaking site it makes sense that many of us here would not be able to easily look up or reference cultural/political/geological alternate memories in foreign lands, in foreign languages.

Now perhaps you can explain this question: why are so many people recalling the same exact alternate spellings/facts? If it were a faulty memory problem, would we not be remembering things differently and arguing with each other whether it was spelled this way or that way?

originally posted by: tigertatzen

originally posted by: UnBreakable
a reply to: jacygirl
A faulty memory on my part is less disturbing to me than the alternative.

" A faulty memory on my part is less disturbing to me than the alternative. "

You know what, you really just described something that really resonates with that last sentence there. That is, in my opinion, the leading reason why people behave in a dismissive or derisive...or even abusive manner on threads like this. Everyone has their own comfort zone and when we perceive something as a threat to that, our very first line of defense is often denial....

Brilliant post tiger!! *standing ovation*

I read it twice and think you've hit the nail on the head.

I think I worry that these small insignificant alterations are just a test run, and we're being observed now. Are 'they' watching us chat online? Are 'they' tallying up numbers and percentages of who's noticing and who's not?

It's strange...if I spell a name wrong, and search online to check the spelling...there are not suddenly hundreds or thousands of people all searching that same name. (no 100 monkey syndrome)
I haven't begun a meme with my search.

So why are we all noticing the same names? Why sudden increases in search engine results? Why are so many people suddenly googling "Luke I am your father"? Who is gathering this data and why?
Doesn't it sound like it's all happened...in a rather large way...in a fairly short period of time?

Last question...would anyone notice any of these if we didn't have the internet?
jacy

originally posted by: jacygirl

originally posted by: GoShredAK

originally posted by: wesleyapril
I've enjoyed reading all the comments - I've been looking into the Mandela Effect for nearly a year at this point. I would love to point out - that if you see the changes- and you will know if you are sincere or not - you are an empath only empaths see the changes. I can share a photo of what an empath is - if anyone is interested.

Also, you will more than likely share some of the same physical symptoms - that those that see the changes do - insomnia, sick stomach, dizzy, headaches/migraines, ear ringing, jaw pain, shoulder pain, trouble finding words - i.e. the room with the car in it. Sometimes we are forgetful also.

Only empaths see it - I have yet to meet a non empath see the changes.

. So this is very interesting......

Empath here.....I'm seeing it. Apprehensive to completely believe but.....i see it.

Also I feel fantastic these days. Just loving life because I have pulled myself out of a bad situation.

Anyway, even though I feel great I have been getting every single one of those physical symptoms pretty often in a fleeting manner.

I just blame anxiety but idk.

My ears will just ring out of nowhere for a few seconds like someone hit a tiny bell in my brain.

Fleeting headaches, chest, shoulder, jaw pain, and more......

Wheird.

Empath here too. I also have all the symptoms listed.

When my ear starts with the loud "tone", I will scream "Stop that!" in my head...it stops.
Yeah, I know...likely coincidence, but when I don't tell it stop it lasts much longer.

Starting to believe we ARE stuck in some matrix, or are being messed with on a level that we don't even know exists.
jacy

I experience most of those symptoms as well, and would for many years prior to having awareness of a Mandela Effect have a passing thought joking to myself that events were being downloaded into my head when I'd get the eartone. Later I find out other people experience that same thing. Still get it randomly. It also usually will stop if you focus and tell it to stop. So weird. Also, I'm definitely empathic, and no I don't think that makes me special at all (to the poster who thinks we think of ourselves as special). I work a regular job and do regular things. I like Star Wars. I have hobbies. I'm just a guy who happens to be empathic.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Lol I love Red Dwarf and that was one of my favourite episodes! In the past I identified with Rimmer a lot and used to wonder if I was somehow ruining my own life by expecting negative outcomes.

originally posted by: pirhanna

originally posted by: jacygirl

originally posted by: GoShredAK

originally posted by: wesleyapril
I've enjoyed reading all the comments - I've been looking into the Mandela Effect for nearly a year at this point. I would love to point out - that if you see the changes- and you will know if you are sincere or not - you are an empath only empaths see the changes. I can share a photo of what an empath is - if anyone is interested.

Also, you will more than likely share some of the same physical symptoms - that those that see the changes do - insomnia, sick stomach, dizzy, headaches/migraines, ear ringing, jaw pain, shoulder pain, trouble finding words - i.e. the room with the car in it. Sometimes we are forgetful also.

Only empaths see it - I have yet to meet a non empath see the changes.

. So this is very interesting......

Empath here.....I'm seeing it. Apprehensive to completely believe but.....i see it.

Also I feel fantastic these days. Just loving life because I have pulled myself out of a bad situation.

Anyway, even though I feel great I have been getting every single one of those physical symptoms pretty often in a fleeting manner.

I just blame anxiety but idk.

My ears will just ring out of nowhere for a few seconds like someone hit a tiny bell in my brain.

Fleeting headaches, chest, shoulder, jaw pain, and more......

Wheird.

Empath here too. I also have all the symptoms listed.

When my ear starts with the loud "tone", I will scream "Stop that!" in my head...it stops.
Yeah, I know...likely coincidence, but when I don't tell it stop it lasts much longer.

Starting to believe we ARE stuck in some matrix, or are being messed with on a level that we don't even know exists.
jacy

I experience most of those symptoms as well, and would for many years prior to having awareness of a Mandela Effect have a passing thought joking to myself that events were being downloaded into my head when I'd get the eartone. Later I find out other people experience that same thing. Still get it randomly. It also usually will stop if you focus and tell it to stop. So weird.

Hey pirhanna!
Joking that it's a download? Yes!
Tell it to stop and it stops? Yes!
So weird? Yes!

Ugh, why do people get so bent out of shape if you call yourself an empath? It's not a special snowflake cry for attention for pity's sake...it's people who feel things a certain way.
Something we have in common. It's strange how threatening that is though to some.
We can read them, feel their emotions and see through their fake veneers.

It wouldn't be so special or even necessary if everyone would just be real, eh?
jacy

I love threads like this, they really make you think. But obviously some of it is just folks remembering things wrong. Don't forget, human memory is not photographic. Over time memories deteriorate, so what you think is a memory from childhood could actually be quite different than what actually happened, despite how clearly you think you remember it. Some folks DO have photographic memories, so they would be the best to pose questions like this to. When you think of the Berenstain bears, it's like you remember more how your parent says it, than how it's actually spelled because you don't necessarily ever see the words spelled out. These are things from many of our childhood.

The one thing that doesn't really add up about this is:

If somebody was actually going around and changing minor things in the past like name spellings and other stuff, why would we remember the events differently? If everything physical is what changes and you could see it in an old photo or an old children's book, why wouldn't this also apply to your memory? Why wouldn't you just remember it as "Berenstain" only? If somebody changed the past, then we would remember that as the way it always was. If not, where would the other memory come from? I guess the only possibility is dimensional shifting, but again why wouldn't you just remember it the way it actually was? Too confusing, although there are some things out there that make you wonder about this.

a reply to: Barcs

Don't forget, human memory is not photographic.

In a way, it is. Photographs can be altered. All of our memories have been photoshopped. By experiences before and after.

We remember nothing as it was, we only remember it as we remember it.

originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
As this is an American, English-speaking site it makes sense that many of us here would not be able to easily look up or reference cultural/political/geological alternate memories in foreign lands, in foreign languages.

Now perhaps you can explain this question: why are so many people recalling the same exact alternate spellings/facts? If it were a faulty memory problem, would we not be remembering things differently and arguing with each other whether it was spelled this way or that way?

Well, your first point is not necessarily true, many people are bilingual or trilingual, I am one of them. I can speak three languages fluently and I know I am not the only one. Many people are of mixed backgrounds like me, and grew up with two different cultures.

I have searched countless of forums, blogs, sites etc. Most of the people that are experiencing this are from North America. I have searched countless times for the same phenomenon in Italian and Spanish, without any results. I have lived in Italy and South-America, so I know the cultural lingo... and still nothing.

I cannot explain your questions, I wish I could. I have already said that I believe the Berenstain/Interview with the vampire/Sex in the city to be misspellings due to the English pronunciation. But I am as baffled as you are as to why so many people in North America remember Mandela dying in the 80s, NZ above Australia, etc. I remember clearly when he became president in the 90s. I do not see what you are seeing, and I can't explain why. But one thing for sure is I don't believe in a dimension/time shifting, I tend to have a scientific mind and I need measurable evidence to believe something.

a reply to: wesleyapril

Oh, I'm not easily startled. Being emphatic myself and having had some bizarre experiences, not much surprises me anymore.

I sent you a PM, by the way. Curious about "ailments," etc.

Well for future reference I suggest taking images of landmarks,objects and printing a hard-copy so that if any major shifts occur someone could pull it up later since it maybe the only "evidence" we may have left.

people think its a joke, but its not.

Posted about this back a long time ago.

Changes I've noticed to the Timeline

a reply to: jacygirl

I've had that same problem! I had a computer for years that would occasionally act weird while I was researching, the cursor going off on its own, buttons being clicked by the left mouse button its own! I eventually found out that the motherboard was fried by the video card and an expert told me that this damaged the part of the computer which allows me to interact with it. So, that made sense. I purchased a refurbished computer from him, and I had the same problem! This time I figured, well, it's an older computer, refurbished, cheap, you get what you pay for. I recently went out and got a brand new HP computer, and I am having the same problem! It's as if someone takes control of my computer and messes with it! I have ran numerous scans but nothing I can do can stop it. Fortunately, it happens less frequently than it used to.

a reply to: hidingthistime

Awww. Well, it's fun to speak from the heart

a reply to: jacygirl

Sorry to hear that, Jacy. Hope you feel better soon!

I have also been upset lately for terrible ordeals I have gone through, mostly work related, some from childhood scars. It feels good to discuss something a tad less dramatic than daily living, I suppose. Sometimes even unpleasant supernatural experiences are more fun to talk about than the crap that really beats you down in life.

originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: TombEscaper

I speak three languages fluently and the Mandela effect seems to be happening only to English speakers. I have searched for the same effect in both Italian and Spanish, without success: a few websites talk about the phenomenom but as something happening to North Americans only. Also, most people from Italy or Hispanic countries I asked about this, have no clue what I am talking about, nobody seems to remember Mandela dying in the 80s, for example.

I have said on another thread that, due to phonetics, I remember the Berenstain always with an 'a', as people read the name with a Latin sound ('a' always sounds like 'a' in apple). And I suggested English speakers may remember the spelling wrong due to the the pronunciation in English (sounds like 'ei' just like 'ai' in pain).

If anybody has examples in Spanish or Italian please feel free to post them for me to read, I only ever found one website that talked about it but it was Mexican/Americans which also grew up with English.

So why is the Mandela effect only an Anglo-saxon thing?

There may yet be many Mandela Affected people in other countries. How much was said about Mandela Effect in America 3-4 years ago? I don't recall anything. We were experiencing it to some extent and not realizing it yet, without a cross-check awakening. In other countries it would be about stuff they know well, not about Star Wars or Berenstein Bears, but *insert spanish name* toilet paper, or some such thing.

Or it really is an American Psyop designed to program our brains. Or maybe the effect is geographically localized for other reasons? Perhaps it is being caused by some kind of secret future tech machine located here in America. I'm keeping an open mind to all the possibilities. I don't know why the programming psyop causes me the most distress to consider, but for some reason it does. That would be so diabolical.

a reply to: CrawlingChaos

I have found this about Eli Whitney from the University of Houston: they talk about him in an episode about black inventors. They do recognize he is white but they add his name to the Black inventors lesson because of this:

The grand irony of all this is that the person who provided Whitney with the key idea for his gin was himself a slave, known to us only by the name Sam.

Perhaps this is why people remember Eli Whitney being black, because in schools they talk about him with other black inventors.

www.uh.edu...

a reply to: pirhanna

I'm keeping an open mind to all the possibilities.

Really? It seems you've ruled out the possibility of misremembering stuff. The possibility that the meme has done what memes do.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Well said, Flyln. I am leaning more in that direction myself, that God/Creator is behind this ultimately.