A man is a man, and a woman is a woman....

a reply to: yuppa

I am not aware of any hermaphodites that had XY pairings though I am not opposed to thinking there may be some out there.

The chromosomes were studied in a human intersex (“true hermaphrodite”) characterized by ambiguous external genitalia and abdominal gonads consisting of a left ovotestis and a right primitive testis. The tissues sampled for chromosome studies (two skin biopsies, right gonad and blood) contained cells having 46, 47 and 49 chromosomes and XX, XXY and XXYYY sex chromosomes respectively. This finding strongly supports the concept that testicular tissue develops only in the presence of the Y chromosome. It is considered plausible that all human íntersexes are chromosomal mosaics. The cytological investigations of the apparent exceptions so far reported in the literature (intersexes with XX sex chromosomes) have been confined to a single tissue specimen.

Hermaphrodites are not even in the same ball park. No I am not confusing a persons genatalia with gender. I was strictly talking about genes. As you can see the Y chromosome is most likely necessary for testicular tissue. You just equated a person with a biological deformity to a person who is biologically normal believing they are the opposite of what they are. You logic is all screwy because you denying objective facts about nature.

a reply to: Joecanada11

Facts of genetics. If your sex is male, then you are by definition male. There is no way around that. If you want to be a male who likes to do what society would classify as feminine who cares that doesn't change what you are in objective reality. I don't agree with the idea that there is a difference between gender and sex. You are not a female because you have feminine tendencies.

a reply to: Tiamat384

Gender bending means to behave in opposites sex's characteristics

a reply to: kaylaluv

Lol and a person with an XY chromosome and no deformities claiming to be a woman is not a real event its a clearly false belief that is a belief that indicates an abnormality in the affected person's content of thought.

a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb

Funny you mention this. I was just talking on another similar thread about the benefits of young transgender people being allowed to transition earlier. Those that start transitioning by taking puberty blockers and hormones in their teens do much better psychologically than adults who try to transition after the permanent effects of puberty have happened. Depression and suicides go down when the transition is more successful - because the person looks more like they want, and because people usually can't even tell they are transgender, thus they get treated better by society overall.

Meanwhile, it’s true that transgender young people experience higher rates of mental health challenges, like the patients in this study, but the mounting evidence indicates that it’s not because they are transgender, but because of how they are treated for being transgender.

thinkprogress.org...

In other words, if we treat transgender people better, they don't suffer as much depression. It's us that's the problem, not them.

a reply to: Hazardous1408
You said uneducated. If you do not specify it means in a general sense. Thus an insult. Not that I'm offended, but clearly you lack debate skills if you resort to such tactics.

Hmm, you could have provided a source, but didn't. No proper source available I suppose.

a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb

What difference does it make to you if a man identifies as a woman or a woman as a man? I don't know what it would be like but I do know that because so many people have an issue with it it must make things more difficult for them. Does it affect you? Why are you even bothered by this. I'm a man I like women. I don't care if others feel different.

I know a couple who's son (now daughter ) identified as a girl from the age of 2 years old. She had all kinds of issues in school but she felt like a girl from the time of self awareness.

a reply to: kaylaluv

In other words, if we treat transgender people better, they don't suffer as much depression. It's us that's the problem, not them.

The only suicide rate comparable to that is that of the Jews under the Nazis in terrible death camps of WWII....are you really equating the treatment of transpeople to that of the Jews in Auauschwitz? I mean if you want to compare apples to apples....its not the treatment of them its the fact that they are mentally ill and need medical assistance .

a reply to: Tiamat384

Uhhh.

Here have it your way, Tiamat.

www.marieclaire.com...

700,000 in the United States alone.

a reply to: Joecanada11

And he has a delusion...that simply a fact...hes not a female...wanting to do what society deems girly and being a female are entirely different things.

a reply to: kaylaluv

In other words, if we treat transgender people better, they don't suffer as much depression. It's us that's the problem, not them.

Well put. The suicide rates have so much more to do with being accepted by society than how they identify.

a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb

Your sex is your genitalia, gender is in your brain. Most of the time your genitalia matches the brain, but occasionally it doesn't. This is what causes gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is the discomfort when the genitalia (and hormones produced by the genitalia) doesn't match what the brain says. More and more research is showing that gender dysphoria is neurological, not psychological. There is no known successful treatment for this neurological disorder, other than to change the physical, thereby ending the dysphoria. That's a fact.

a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb

Again I will ask what is your problem with it? Does it affect you personally ? No it doesn't. So why do you care ?

And saying she has a delusion is nothing more than your opinion and not the opinion of many medical professionals. Unless those professionals have a religious belief which taints their opinion.

a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb

But can a goat be a friend and a Fred be a George?

That is the real question, isn't it?

Not worth it. Too tired.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Hahahahah I just spat food all over myself thanks Terry.

Joecanada11,

Don't bother I have asked that same question a number of times. I don't think it's that he won't answer so much as it is that he simply can't. For reasons beyond even his own comprehension.

Because, really, its nobodies damn business but the parties concerned ammirite?

a reply to: Tiamat384

I'll bet if you look at rates of transgender in Thailand you would find at least a million. That one night in Bangkok gave me a surprise LOL

a reply to: Joecanada11
Then find stats and prove that argument. I'm leaving for the night,

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: TerryDon79

Hahahahah I just spat food all over myself thanks Terry.

You're very welcome my slightly food encrusted friend!