5 ex-cops plead guilty in bridge shootings after Katrina

On Sept. 4, 2005, days after the levees failed and water swamped the city, police gunned down 17-year-old James Brissette and 40-year-old Ronald Madison, who were both unarmed, and wounded four others on the Danziger Bridge. To cover it up, the officers planted a gun, fabricated witnesses and falsified reports, prosecutors have said
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Under the new plea agreement, they will get credit for time served and they could be released from prison anywhere from the next one to six years..

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wow, what can be said that hasnt been. this is reality for some, and an embellishment to others.i wonder in the year 3010 will things still be the same.
... until then, the context will change but the actions will be the same. even centuries from now.

if i murder, then cover it up, how many year will i get????

avoid racial implications for a second, and analyze the cases against these men whom swore to protect and serve and uphold justice.
if there arent anymore neutral intermediary, then where is justice headed.... civil vigilante ?

a reply to: odzeandennz

20 years...
for 2 murders, 4 attempted murders, planting evidence and conspiracy to cover it up.
sigh... at least they didn't 'fully' get away with it

a reply to: odzeandennz

"Four of the former officers have been locked up for nearly six years while the fifth has been out on bond. Their original convictions called for them to serve anywhere from 65 years to six years in prison. The plea deal has them serving a range of 12 to three years."

Gotta love the justice system...Three strike law in California can put you away a lot longer for just stealing something like a bike for your third offense...so much for the scales of justice being blind and balanced..

Perhaps I'm not fully informed and their were some technical issues with the case but something stinks...

That something stinking would be the NOPD.

Law enforcement in Louisiana is sketchy at best, but NOPD take corruption and incompetence to a new high. I'd put NOPD up against LAPD Rampart and NYPD for total asshattery. Luckily, a lot of them got exposed for what they were during Katrina, but like everything else, the public's memory is short and fickle, and it's back to business as usual.

You want some more fun, google "Henry Glover".

originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
a reply to: odzeandennz

20 years...
for 2 murders, 4 attempted murders, planting evidence and conspiracy to cover it up.
sigh... at least they didn't 'fully' get away with it

Typically, they would have only got a few months off with pay before they would be given separation papers so they could quietly go work as a cop in some other community.

If I were the jury and judge I would have given them life with no chance of parole for the falsifying of the police report. Planting a weapon would be another life sentence and since it looks like they were bored and wanted to shoot someone or two a few years on death-roe and the electric chair would not be uncalled for IMO. As in most things you have to set the tone and when it comes to falsifying official reports those who do need to get burnt big time !

there was a guy who shoplifted not too long ago and got 6 years or something, it was in the news.

but think of what you just read and the total time they are facing. 3 to 12 years....

originally posted by: 727Sky
...and the electric chair would not be uncalled for IMO. As in most things you have to set the tone...

The British infantry in the good old days would set that tone by executing very errant soldiers in front of the entire company, in a long and awful ceremony, accompanied by a lecture by their equivalent of a 1st sergeant.

It got the point across in a visceral way that if you dishonored your brothers badly enough, you would be stuck up for all to see, your buttons, insignia and rank cut away, a noose put around your neck, and you would die peeing yourself in front of all your buds.

It didn't have to happen very often.

Something like that should be considered for cops. You get a group of your guys shooting a man having a heart attack and then burning his dead body in a car because you're too #ing lazy to get medical help, I'm for putting every god# one of you on a dais in front of the city of New Orleans, from the ones that did it to the ones that lied to cover it up, cut their uniforms off, and hang them in front of every NOPD officer and the public.

The only trouble is, with NOPD it would be like eating one potato chip. You might not end up with 10% of the force alive.

This is seriously one of the most disturbing things I have read in a while.

a reply to: odzeandennz

wow, what can be said that hasnt been. this is reality for some, and an embellishment to others.i wonder in the year 3010 will things still be the same.
... until then, the context will change but the actions will be the same. even centuries from now. 

It depends on who is writing the check and how many checks they are writing.

We have been sold out. We are food and fodder, bagged, tagged, predictable and expendable.

The real question is, how many generations will it take to get back on track, if there is no apocalypse?

originally posted by: charolais
This is seriously one of the most disturbing things I have read in a while.

It gets better. Go read up on Henry Glover. It happened about the same time.

a reply to: odzeandennz

Just imagine if the two victims had done this exact same thing to a bunch of cops...


They'd be on DR faster than you could pull the trigger.

a reply to: Bedlam

Katrina was messed up on so many levels we could fill books with people's stories about governmental abuse and just plain stupidity. There were roving gangs stealing, raping, and creating mayhem. So what does the police chief order... confiscate all guns from people trying to protect their homes and property or those who are trying to move their guns to a safer area so they would not be stolen.

I suppose if you want to pop citizens without resistance be sure they have no means to defend themselves !

There are many many sickening stories out of New Orleans during that time period. youtu.be...

a reply to: 727Sky
There used to be a time when something like Katrina, would have galvanized the masses. They would have fought back and demanded that this would never happen again.

Unfortunately all of those fighters are dead or too old to pose a threat. Even though some oldtimers still fought back. She got the tar beat out of her but she can hold her head high.



Doesn't look like we have much hope for the future. The threat of 1984 has come and gone. We never realized that 1984 would be better than what lies ahead.

a reply to: Bedlam

Bedlam, you're a wise and sensible member...

Do you recall all the Chris "American Sniper" Kyle hype and his stories of shooting people in New Orleans just post-Katrina...


I seem to remember such not too long ago.

Maybe I'm imagining things.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Bedlam

Bedlam, you're a wise and sensible member...

Do you recall all the Chris "American Sniper" Kyle hype and his stories of shooting people in New Orleans just post-Katrina...

I didn't follow a lot of Chris Kyle stuff. I know it seems bizarre but I just never ponied up a lot of interest in it for some reason. So it COULD be, but I couldn't say.

I do know that there were a couple of retired SF that got cut off in a building by flood water, and proceeded to rescue people and bring them back to the building, acquiring a boat and a few firearms in their journey, and setting up a secure position for all the non-Mad Max types, somehow finding a way to feed and water them all as well as keeping them from being shot, stabbed or raped.

You didn't hear a lot about that one. But I found it inspiring.

a reply to: Bedlam

Lol that's an interesting story.
Thanks for sharing.

For what it's worth I googled Chris Kyle & New Orleans and it turns out he did in his book claim to have "picked off bad guys" just after the Hurricane.

No one believed it at the time because he was quite the story teller...


Looking back, and reading the OP, I'm on the fence now.

originally posted by: 727Sky
a reply to: Bedlam

Katrina was messed up on so many levels we could fill books with people's stories about governmental abuse and just plain stupidity.

I think it was a wonderful dry run to show what will happen with local government when something really bad happens, if it has no integrity to start with.

This sort of thing didn't happen in Pensacola. Or Gulf Shores, or Hattiesburg, or Waveland or the other places that got smeared. At least, not nearly as badly as it did in NOLA.

Now, I grant you, in MS you had stupidity out at Camp Shelby. That makes me sad, but it did happen, and it shows you that the Army (or at least the NG) needs a bit of training in flexibility in weird circumstances when you maybe can't go by the book 100%. So, in that case, you got stupid # like NG guarding ice from the locals who needed it for food preservation and medicine refrigeration, because FEMA couldn't set up a by-the-book distribution point. To the point that the Sheriff at the time (two thumbs up) just hijacked the ice trucks at gunpoint. Good for him, btw, he was looking out for his county. At the same time, however, you had the Hattiesburg police stealing all the food from FEMA under the pretext that 'we need it in order to police effectively'. Ya, right.

Mostly the PPD stayed out of the way of people who knew what they were doing. So we got the roads open when they didn't have enough crews. Same in Hattiesburg, the mayor came on the radio and said "If you've got chain saws and come alongs, I approve your personal efforts to remove blockages in the roads, as long as you understand you are responsible for your own injuries". And so the roads were opened. Same in Waveland. Not much was left there, tbh. But they were ok with you pulling up in the woods-mobile and a dozen wild ass rednecks sawing all the trees to bits and piling them by the roadside.

OTOH, Hattiesburg had no water because they had decided not to continue to fund and maintain diesel generators at the well heads. So, the mall roof collapsed, opened the fire plumbing, and all the city water went glug glug glug into Turtle Creek Mall. That's a bad thing.They still don't have generators. Well, they're THERE, they just don't work.

So, small things in the large elsewhere, but in NOLA, it just mad-maxed to the limit. Cops stealing cars and running for it, cops murdering and hiding it, gangs in the street, rampant looting, rape you name it. It was a cesspool before, though, and just showed its true colors.

a reply to: Hazardous1408


But yeah, if you factor out Kyle, there were several teams of SF, a pod of SEALs and some Marine types prowling the city at night helping themselves to looters and thugs on the sly. At least, I've heard that from people who would know, so it's at least possible that you had Kyle there.

It would come down to who they had handy, and you've got whoever was at Shelby or PNAS on the Army side and the group of SEALs that they keep at PNAS (although they swear they don't have some) that would be right there. Great training, I suppose.

a reply to: Bedlam I lived in Morgan City, La for a few years, easily one of the most inept/corrupt police force in existence. I was dating a girl the future chief had his eye on. The dude constantly tried intimidating me by following me into bars and sitting behind me. He pulled me over probably 15 times, and blocked my truck dozens of other times. I made dozens of complaints, to no avail. I didn't have enough money to get a lawyer, so it was either make him disappear the old fashioned way or move. I moved.