Is there any proof of psychic abilities?

Not in studies, and I don't know the answer or how we'll prove it, but...

Personal experience is yes, there is proof of psychic ability. When psychic says something out of nowhere to someone they've never met about something they could know nothing about. I've seen that. The exact same psychic predicted a future event with a time frame attached that came true. That's a little bit too coincidental.

How would you test that if A. We control our own destiny so the future is not really set and we can change it with our actions, therefore nullifying a prediction that would have come true if not for a specific action we took. B. A psychic predicted say that we would win a million dollars in a fairly specific setting and we only won ten thousand. Does that nullify the prediction or prove it false? As there is too much randomness and chaos in the Universe for everything to be specific. What then does this also say of the "Law of Attraction" or "Creative Visualization" set? Does one person strongly applying law of attraction and then that thing becomes a reality. What is at play there? Scientifically it proves nothing except that in that instance it worked. Impossible to test?

I agree with the idea that once it happens to you, you will know that it is a real thing and it is actually pretty humbling. The remote viewing stuff is my favorite aspect but it happens less or not at all unless I sleep on my back which is good and bad as I have had stunningly fun experiences and yet also very scary ones where I get the sense of a psychic attack occurring.

Good luck finding proof though unless it comes through you or someone you trust not to bull# you.

a reply to: Whaler

Yes there is but it comes from the fallen Angels, there is a war going on for the souls of men, there is God and then there is fallen spiritual beings who profess to be Aliens or spirits who claim to be something they are not, pretending to be dead human beings, they are lieing and trying to bring man away from the truth and it is working to, rip me all you want but prove to me that this is not a fact. Evolution what a load of crap and everyone follows it even in schools, we are being lied to WAKE UP.

originally posted by: Saylesie17
a reply to: Whaler

Yes there is but it comes from the fallen Angels, there is a war going on for the souls of men, there is God and then there is fallen spiritual beings who profess to be Aliens or spirits who claim to be something they are not, pretending to be dead human beings, they are lieing and trying to bring man away from the truth and it is working to, rip me all you want but prove to me that this is not a fact. Evolution what a load of crap and everyone follows it even in schools, we are being lied to WAKE UP.

Listen, Friend, you need to calm down. Take a breath.

A dog with a gun does no one any good.

I’ve read your post a number of times and then read your Intro and I think you’ve come to the right place but with the wrong attitude. From your posts, it looks like you’ve been going through some frightening things, without any support from family or friends…and it sort of looks like you are unconsciously taking it out on the rest of us.

Listen to yourself:

Maybe you will say I am crazy, stupid or full of crap and that is ok

No one is saying that — at least not yet, and let’s try to keep it that way. And the best way to do that is to not say that about us. Golden Rule. Make sense?

We are all explorers and experiencers here and we have come together to share our experiences and read about others…and for some of us, even learn a thing or two. Most of us use expressions like “in my opinion” rather than state the first idea on our brain as if it were gospel truth.

I think that most of us here have come to realize that there are more interpretations to our experiences than what we were taught to believe, and if what we were taught to believe “worked” for us, then most of us would not be here.

Peace to you.

a reply to: Saylesie17

That's some kind of scary thinking there, Saylesie. Have you shared it with many people? Your family and friends - people outside of "church"?

It worries me that people actually think those things, and believe them.

Yes there is but it comes from the fallen Angels, there is a war going on for the souls of men, there is God and then there is fallen spiritual beings who profess to be Aliens or spirits who claim to be something they are not, pretending to be dead human beings, they are lieing and trying to bring man away from the truth and it is working to, rip me all you want but prove to me that this is not a fact. Evolution what a load of crap and everyone follows it even in schools, we are being lied to WAKE UP.

That sounds like a brutal combination of Scientology & Mormonism.

a reply to: ColdWisdom

I think that was a little unfair, we all know scientology and it's cult status, L'Ron Hubbard the pulp fiction author (highly entertaining but don't miss out his statement that if you want to rich, famous and powerful start your own religion which he then did) but there are far more than Scientologists with this belief that some of the UFO are other dimensional and even perhaps truly demonic, not all by any mean's but were are they really from and what is there agenda, though admittedly I would be more scared of inviting a Scientologist into my house.
Wonder how many peanuts they get sent every year?.

No seriously it is a genuine line of discussion when it come's to the agenda and nature of some reported encounters and many UFO phenomena are accompanied by other phenomena of the definitely paranormal kind which may include poltergeist activity, prescience (deja vu or prolepsis type experiences) etc.

An 2000 website that posits the question.
www.angelfire.com...

www.skepticfiles.org...

Then there is another possible causal relationship between Trauma and the Paranormal which is worth reviewing to shine more light on para-psychological relationships between these event's.
bullyonline.org...

But then try to explain away the Rendlesham forest incident and NO it was not a lighthouse those guy's were definitely not idiot's and they were stationed there, they knew of the lighthouse so were definitly not going to mistake it for what they experienced.

But then try to explain away the Rendlesham forest incident and NO it was not a lighthouse those guy's were definitely not idiot's and they were stationed there, they knew of the lighthouse so were definitly not going to mistake it for what they experienced.

I believe it was a military Black Ops that was testing newly developed psychotronic weapons. But this is the wrong thread in the wrong forum for that discussion.

But I do agree with you that the paranormal side effects of UFO close encounter cases is something that is typically overlooked by many in the field.

a reply to: ColdWisdom

You know I think that is actually a very good point, not my shared opinion but definitely a very good point and just as feasible and likely, more so in fact than my own opinion as it is a far more rational interpretation.

Now sorry to the poster to go off subject for a second but it is a little like the whole D.U.M.B thing which for a long time was a major vein of threads on ATS, a lot of them claim UFO connection which could be interpreted if proven in a rational as underground top secret research facility's hidden by being buried (just as the German's did with there missile factory) from oversight by spy satellites and other methods of surveillance for the development of black project air craft or drone's and also defense installations perhaps housing ground to sky rail gun system's, also a lot of those threads included story's of paranormal and alien activity and while the more mysterious ancient underground network's may indeed be firmly within the paranormal research field (or at least the mysterious ancient ones are) of research I have a rather less plausible but still I believe possibly accurate take on these vast underground excavation site's.

If NASA did find ruin's on the moon which were then kept out of the public domein for fear of causing social and religious collapse with the accompanying global economic crisis they then believed may happen then they would still have coveted any ancient technology (human/other former terrestrial race or even alien regardless) because it was a case of if we don't have it the other guy may get it and get a leap on us technologically.

Now if that is the case, just possibly they found indication of were some of the sites of this very ancient, probably extremely ancient and long before humanity was supposed to exist civilation had existed, sites such as city's or even industrial complex or were they may once have stood, with time and due to there extensive age which would be measured in geological period's they may now be very deeply buried or rather were they once were may be and so some of these D.U.M.B's may be actually to really in order to excavate and try to recover lost super advanced technology's from these site's or at least information that could lead to the redevelopment of them and this is the type of secret they would kill to keep because if true they they must exist all over the world and if China got wind and started to dig for them then the game would be up in a few decades especially if there sites were more extensive or more important in that ancient world which I am hypothesizing may have potentially existed.

Now not human but take the Rhinocerous, it is endangered but since the end of the dinosaurs some 65 million years ago it is actually evolved several time's and gone extinct several time's, big cat's have had previous similar species including both reptile and dinosaur analogues that would look very cat like to our modern eye's, wolves as well so why not a humanoid race, big brain to solve complex problem's, tool using to make up for lack of claws and fang's,.

(I am just hypothesising bare in mind since I am a christian and while I do not doubt my god could have created other races and indeed did - angels and demons and werever they came from before they ascended to the spiritual state, well I digress)

This is just to think on as a hypothetical scenario and not to take the thread off subject which is paranormal proof.

Now some ghost images to get this back on thread.
inyminy.com...
www.crystalinks.com...
www.placesyoullsee.com...
unsolved.com...

How about projecting thought images onto a photographic image.
en.wikipedia.org...
hyperallergic.com...

a reply to: ColdWisdom

Yeah it is called Christianity.

originally posted by: Saylesie17
a reply to: ColdWisdom

Yeah it is called Christianity.

I was trying to stand up for you, but I need to draw the line here...and I will not mince words with "IMHO's":

Christianity is NOT, I repeat, NOT "a brutal combination of Scientology & Mormonism."

If this is your take on it, then you have never met a real Christian, but that's another matter.

Again, I say peace to you.

To the OP, this post is for you, giving you the proof you requested. I don't know how to multi-quote within a reply, but this was your original post:

Is there any proof of the existence of things like telepathy, clairvoyance, remote viewing, psychokinesis, and so forth? There are studies done but usually flaws are found in them. Most studies of the paranormal are found to flawed in one way or another by skeptics. No one ever successfully has claimed James Randi's prize for proving a paranormal ability to be real and factual.

And this was my reply. In it, I made a prediction to give you real-time proof of something that was so in your face you couldn't deny it.

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originally posted by: pacific
a reply to: Whaler

You mean you want evidence (physical matter) of something that doesn't exist as matter in the first place?

I think I have psychic tendencies. lol. Maybe that's putting it mildly. I won't detail everything that happens, because it would be too long. But everyone who knows about this stuff (healers, naturopaths, alternative doctors, etc) have all once said they bet I am. I skirt the issue most of the time and downplay it. If I don't, it leads to trouble. Mostly, I'm better off not saying anything.

I am 'told' things sometimes. Just the other day, I was 'told' that Donald Trump would get the delegates needed, what was it 1237? or something for the nomination. Not that he would be president, just that he would get the delegates. The word president wasn't even mentioned. That was the total of the message, that went something like this: "He will get the delegates needed." It was something like that.

I am Australian, not American. I live in Australia.

I have absolutely no idea why I was told this. I only read about Trump on a news article (and I read everything . . .sometimes 7 books a day. I'm a speed reader, and I remember things then piece them together.) I mentioned on another thread that sometimes I feel waves of global shifts and I think the message has something to do with that. It's made me terribly nervous to mention what I was told, but . . . in the end . . . it doesn't matter. It's either right or wrong. I got the feeling of political chaos or something like that. I could be totally wrong. I'm just going to put it out there anyway.

I never push my psychic abilities on other people. I don't read them without their permission and I don't really like doing it. People think I'm weird. If you met me in real life, I would appear to be the most normal person you could meet, and I hesitate to show the other side. I am very aware of the right of free will and never use clairvoyance on another to make money off of them. Sometimes I have inadvertently made money out of seeing the future or sensing money, but this has always been with a lottery and a poker machine I tried. I probably gamble about once every five years lol and feel ripped off if I lose $20.

Another voice once told me to, "Look within", and I think that's the only place you will find answers, rather than looking to the world without.

You can look at the date of my reply. April 17. It was when Cruz still had a chance. Nothing was decided. I posted before Trump's major wins that put him over the edge for a very specific reason. You asked for proof. I gave it to you.

So the only thing left is to ask yourself if you believe. It's easy enough to deny. If you feel there are flaws to what I have done, or my post, those are flaws inherent to giving a forum 'stranger' proof. Real-time proof given over the Internet (cyber-space) of something happening in their world. Something with a date, that makes them question things, and that's enough for me.

originally posted by: pacific
a reply to: Whaler

I was 'told' that Donald Trump would get the delegates needed, what was it 1237? or something for the nomination.

edition.cnn.com...
www.bbc.com...
www.abc.net.au...
www.wsj.com...
www.usmagazine.com...
www.thenews.com.pk...
www.smh.com.au...

Is there any proof of psychic abilities?
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A call for an open, informed study of all aspects of consciousness

Manifesto for a Post-Materialist Science


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Related post I made not so long ago

a reply to: TheBandit795

Those are fantastic links...thank you!

originally posted by: Whaler
Is there any proof of the existence of things like telepathy, clairvoyance, remote viewing, psychokinesis, and so forth? There are studies done but usually flaws are found in them. Most studies of the paranormal are found to flawed in one way or another by skeptics. No one ever successfully has claimed James Randi's prize for proving a paranormal ability to be real and factual.

Are you kidding ? Just like with UFOs , there will always be skeptics who offer some kind of explanation for what they witnessed. You cannot win. Even if someone were say able to levitate under laboratory conditions, there would still be an army of Skeptics to debunk (eg. it was all arranged - they were all in on it). Best not to try to prove anything.

As the wiser people will realise, this is a blessing in disguise. If psychic abilities were to be proven, the state would be the first one to jump in and the poor psychic would be commited to a zoo. The state would then try to create a "psychic" army.

Best to keep quiet. This who believe in and successfully use the techniques have all the proof they need. On the other hand , those who seek proof do not deserve to know. Asking for proof is the same as saying :" I do not believe".

It is a bit like someone who mocks the concept of the physical philosopher's stone until an Alchemist does turn lead into Gold right in from of them. Suddenly, that person wants a bit of the action (gold) and becomes all smiles and supportive of the art. I do not believe in this attitude.

I believe in having faith in one's observations , judgement and speculation rather than looking for scientific proof.

Please note that :-

a)It has never been proven scientifically how money is made. It is all down to faith and belief . Luck does not come into it.

b)It has never been proven that we succeed by pitting our will against another's. yet we do it all the time (all of us). The stronger Will shapes the outcome.

who has the standing cash offer for proof ? penn gilette ?

There is plenty of proof out there,
but it depends on what proof is to a person.
Just the fact that there is a thread on it, actually 100's,maybe 1000's of threads here on ATS about it suggests that there is something to it,
just none of us know for sure exactly what and where it is all coming from.
But there is plenty of proof out there if you don't tighten down your definition of "proof".

ESP happens, and it is a weird thing when it does.

a reply to: Whaler Although I cannot Prove what I do as a Psychic to anyone, except through my own Messages from Spirit and my own very personal experiences, I personally know that my Abilities (what many call "Gifts"), are indeed real.

I have written 2 Books on the subject (one of which I am rewriting and republishing with updates), I have given thousands of readings over many years, I have a 90% accuracy rate (10% goes to anything I get wrong) and have been in the field for 37 years.

I started with my Abilities at age 3.

I do what I do by Genetics, so it just comes naturally.

My Ancestors were Shamans, Druids, Wiccans and Gypsies. I have researched and done the Lineage work to Prove this.

One item I have to my Credit (not that local politics being what they are would allow it), is the immediate solving of the Kit Carson Electric Co Op Robbery Case that made the AP Wire and National News.

I broke the case thanks to Spirit, but it took over one year to completely resolve itself; after which the local DA screwed the case up and the guilty went free.
Yes, this pissed me off, but there isn't anything can be done to change what is.
I only missed 3 minor details in the case, but hit everything else.
This is not a typical outcome for most cases.
Yes, I love what I do.

As for healing work done, I had at one time done Reiki (also given to natural Abilities), on a woman whose hand was Gnarled like a Bird's Claw.
I saw her about one year later. Her hand was completely normal, except one finger that still needed work.
I hope and pray that her hand is now completely normal.

They should ALL go into the medical/mental health professions to help in a practical way.
I have met 2 ladies I 'M very sure were psychic,they said I go from life to life as a soldier.
One of them had a real hard time even standing NEAR me.
Walking around angry can bother everyone,even when you smile.
My wife is against them because she believes the are infested with influence of Satan.
I know otherwise ,but a marriage requires such negotiations.
So I can't get any readings on my issues from a psychic insight