What are "reptilians" and/or "lizard beings" actually refering to, in reality?

a reply to: reldra

You know,my husband has seen this-the "overlay" slipping and behind it an inhuman face,which he says seems reptilian.He is clairvoyant,and sees spirits and entities.He has always had that ability,it traumatised him when he was a kiddie.As he got older he learnt to cope with it,well he didn't have a choice,its not something that goes away.But yes he has seen that on certain people once in a while,the "human mask" slipping. The guy he spoke of who works at his place of employment,is just a regular Joe though, which i found surprising.

originally posted by: Willingly
What are "reptilians" and/or "lizard beings" actually refering to, in reality?
Can anybody please elaborate on this?

I thought we were trying to flesh out your concurrent thread (you vanished from) "The History of Capitalism" (what is it!! what does it mean!?); and now ponder upon this shiny new thread you have created "The History of Reptiles". Are the two related subject/format? I ask you now; are Reptiles Capitalists, or are Capitalists Reptiles?

There is a god being and it does stuff that's not possible with science. Like rearranging people's faces in real time. Some like today pretend the meaning is that reptilians (snake people) is symbolic of male genitals and shape shifting is erections. It's the case to some people but it's all actually about a being changing reality in ways that can't be replicated.

a reply to: schuyler

Schuyler I agree with you for the most part.

The extreme fear mongering about evil lizard beings is...or at least was absolute mental pollution.

Which is kind of funny because that ultra fear response is governed largely by the amygdala. It's known as amygdala hijack (not literally getting hijacked) but is instead where the amygdala receives chaotic and continuous signals to create a fear response that perpetuates in a feedback loop. Those signals can be from things like videos talking about evil lizard beings.

Best part about that is the fact that the amygdala is a part of the lower or "reptilian" brain, along with the rest of the limbic system which are the brain components we share with reptiles. Reptiles don't have a well developed cerebral cortex (big squiggly outer part of the brain).

However in the light of denying ignorance...


I do think that somewhere in the Universe there are reptoid upright beings similar to us. I don't think that they're aware of us or visiting us, but that is another topic.

My reasoning is because of the fact that our Universe has a tendency to create common-theme 3 dimensional structures. Like an atom looking similar to a solar system, which looks similar to a galaxy. Or electromaget ism being a dual, oscillating wave form similar to the double helix of our DNA.

With that in consideration, it would seem to me that it's not a farcry for things like DNA and upright, two armed, two legged beings to exist elsewhere.

Even could be human beings just like us on another planet.



You know what'd be cool? Human-like hawk beings complete with talon hands, feathers, and yellow/orange hawk eyes. Afterall, birds of prey are the descendants of dinosaurs.

From what I've seen, I'd say shapeshifting is the equivalent of weird pixelation. Is there any other "evidence" out there other than video distortions?

a reply to: Tulpa

Ah, yes! The greater dick hypothesis. Nice work, there!

I did think reptilians was a kind of allegory for Jewish people in the same way as "International financiers" used to be.

a reply to: Willingly


The "reptilians" everyone is shouting about is actually a misunderstanding.


There are three different species of local Extraterrestrial currently visiting the Earth.

One of those species is
known by the ancient Hindu as "Naga", and in more modern times by the Dogon (African tribe) name "Nommo".


The Naga and the Nommo are likely from a water world planet orbiting Nu (2) Canis Major (known planet). This star is so close in visual proximity to Sirius, that IF someone were to point at Nu (2), you'd think they meant Sirius.

This species is reported by both the Hindu, and the Dogon , as an amphibious humanoid species with some "shapeshifting" abilities...in that they can, at will, make themselves appear more Human.

Like many amphibians, they have scaled skin, which probably accounts for some of the "reptilian" BS that surrounds them...

originally posted by: Willingly
What are "reptilians" and/or "lizard beings" actually refering to, in reality?

Can anybody please elaborate on this?

What does it mean that somebody is "shapeshifting" into a "reptilian" something? Or is having a "soul", that is divided into three parts, like...äh..."mantis, reptilian and hollow earth human being"?

What does "shape-shifting" mean?

From 1z subjective analysis they are associated with the more inorganic ASTRAL-ETHEREAL boundaries of Existence.
However they may "take form" manifest, incarnate or shift into the Human observable frequency at times and may be considered hybrids...

Also 1 feels there may be distinctive differences in the Natives and Cosmic based groups behaviors and interest.

Ex: Astral-Ethereal

a reply to: schuyler

you dont know everything so i ask what you do know and what you can prove

a reply to: Willingly

My reply here won't be exhaustive, as I neither believe in "the reptilians," nor am I familiar with any later iterations of the so-called ideology.

The earliest occurrence of "reptilians" comes from the fictional works of Robert E. Howard, whose 1929 story "The Shadow Kingdom" posited the idea of a mighty race of "serpent men" (humanoid figures with serpentine heads) who dwelt beneath the Earth in subterranean caverns. These "serpent men" could mimic the appearance of humans through shape-shifting abilities, and, through the use of mind-control, manipulate the future of mankind. Howard's race of serpent-men were based on the channeled writings of Madame Helena Blavatsky, a theosophist from the late 18th century whose work, "The Secret Doctrine," posited the existence of a mighty race of "dragon men" who once populated the mythical continent of Lemuria.

Robert E. Howard's work influenced the writings of Clark Ashton Smith and H.P. Lovecraft, both of whom incorporated the "serpent men" into their respective works. Elements from all three writers found traction in the so-called Cthulhu Mythos, pioneered by Lovecraft, but by no means relegated to only his fiction. All of this lead to the 1940s, when a writer named Maurice Doreal, normally known for his non-fiction, composed a (fictional) pamphlet called "Mysteries of the Gobi," and a poem called "The Emerald Tablets," both of which featured appearances of a humanoid race with serpentine heads, no doubt based on the earlier (fictional) works of Howard, Smith, and Lovecraft.

The most recent, and no doubt most influential, contribution to the mythos comes from English conspiracy mogul David Icke, whose two books "The Biggest Secret," (1999) and "Children of the Matrix" (2001) espoused the idea that descendants of the serpent-men, known as the Reptilians, were in fact manipulating the future of the Earth, most often disguised as British royalty. Icke's biggest contribution to the on-going mythos, although patently wrong, was to say that the Reptilians were members of an ancient race of Mesopotamian gods known as the Anunnaki, who feature prominently in a Mesopotamian creation epic called "Enuma Elish," which detailed a cosmic war between two rival clans of deities.

Now, not only are Icke's ideas built upon Doreal's, whose writings were based on a mythos created by Howard, Smith, and Lovecraft, who got their inspiration from Madame Blavatsky, thus creating a shaky pedigree of fictional works, but Icke's commentary on the so-called Sumerian creation epic (it's actually Babylonian, not Sumerian) is academically false. The Anunnaki are not half-human hybrids, they don't exhibit mind-control abilities, and certainly bare no ill-will toward humanity. In reality, the Anunnaki are a collection of fifty gods and goddesses from Mesopotamian religion whom humans willingly served as their devoted congregation. The ranks of the Anunnaki are primarily made up of tutelary gods and goddesses whose cults governed important Mesopotamian city-states, no different than other ancient polytheistic religions from the time.

While not extensive, I hope the above exploration of the origin and mutation of the so-called belief helps you make some more sense of the phenomenon.


~ Wandering Scribe

a reply to: Willingly

I don't know what they are or what they want but I had a dream that there was one Mantis-like, tall being in the corner of my livingroom behind a chair.

It chases a female (unsure if she was human, she was vague) into the kitchen and (what seems like) rapes her. Seemed like they enjoyed it though. The oddest of all was that the male slashes the inner thighs with his lower (back-bowing) legs and she screams. When complete, they were both happy. It could have been his wife and this was a normal habit.

I went looking at several videos on the Mantis topic and found nothing similar being reported so I chalk it up to yet another weirdo dream.

a reply to: Tulpa

I wasn't aware he was a member. If he was, my guess is that his user name would be David Icke.

If I would be David Icke, I would love to hang out here, under an anonym user-name, just to have fun with those who don't know who I am. That is what I would do, if I would be David Icke. It would be a nice way to figure out who beliefes what and why without being recognized as David Icke. Sometimes anonymity has it own rewards, I assume.

Guess who I am. (I'm not David Icke. At least that is for sure.)

a reply to: reldra

They mean to say that some type or types of aliens have taken over the bodies of of some Earthlings. Mainly high ranking political or wealthy people. Possibly just general celebrities. The 'human visage', possibly some type of hologram covers up what they truly look like. It takes energy to maintain the 'costume' and sometimes they get caught in low energy moments.

What evidence to we have for that being the case? I'm not trying to say that some high-rank politicians and celebrities are not utterly screwed up by something or someone, but what it realy is and how it came about, needs to be discovered and exposed more accuratly. I don't think it is helpfull to just spread the reptilian "meme" without having anything other to prove that but that it is what someone is telling us. Is there any other evidence other than what those who tell this tale are saying?

I'm not doubting that they might really believe what they say. What I'm doubting is that it is what realy is the cause. And what is the case and the cause, we don't know yet. That's my point.

In regard to your youtube guy, he thinks his DNA is the product of multiple alien species having mated OR something mo re celestial in nature, rather than physical.

He does talk about a 'soul agreement' that I don't quite understand and that he has 'children' with alien beings, which would be an actual physical DNA mix.

I'm a story-teller also.

Is there ANY evidence for all those claims? To do DNA experiements and such, some kind of laboratory is needed to do that, right?

In another video I have seen, a therapist who works with SRA-survivers has mentioned that children, who have been abused told her that they gave birth to babys, although they just where children themselfs. How can that be the case? Well, one explaination is hypnosis and tricks. You show the victim a bady and tell the child it was born by the child. The child would not know better and that is the memory that adult then tells the therapist. And then the therapist thinks, "well, everything this client says is just wiered stuff. Made up by his imagination."

Know what I'm driving at?

(I can provide the link to that video, if neccessary.)

What I'm saying here, in summary, is: It seem to be a very complex phenomenon. That's all.

a reply to: Tindalos2013

I think it is all to do with the shape of the consciousness of human minds. The reptilian mindset has something to do with the psychosis of how certain groups perceive the world which utilizes the basic instincts of what it is to be human.

The things that constitute the reptilian behavior are eating, survival and reproduction. All this is wrapped up in aggression and dominance over weaker individuals. there is a proven element, if you care to google the research, that the human brain contains reptilian behavior patterns from thousand of years of its development.

That sounds reasonable. And then the so called reptilians are the ones who merely operate from the reptile-brain part. For reasons that need to be discovered and explained and exposed why and how comes that that is the case.

a reply to: Tulpa

This apparent inhumanity along with some alleged secret agenda that surpasses all the wealth and power in the world is what feeds the reptilian conspiracy.

It could really be true

Or

The people in charge are just dicks.

Or, they are products of so called satanic-ritual-abuse.

a reply to: donktheclown

I can't speak with any certainty but I believe that refers to them changing your perception of their shape...JMO.

That is something to digg into, IMHO: "Them changing" our "perception of their shape".

For reasons that need to be discovered and exposed.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

I thought we were trying to flesh out your concurrent thread (you vanished from) "The History of Capitalism" (what is it!! what does it mean!?); and now ponder upon this shiny new thread you have created "The History of Reptiles". Are the two related subject/format? I ask you now; are Reptiles Capitalists, or are Capitalists Reptiles?

THAT is a very good question, indeed: Are reptiles capitalists, or are capitalists reptiles?

And no, I have not abandoned my other thread about the history of capitalism. I have just one life and sometimes I need to eat, sleep, shower, go for a walk, relax for the sake of relaxing, and such.

a reply to: Wandering Scribe

Thanks for that fine elaboration, Wandering Scribe. I'll digg into that as soon as my schedule allows me to do so.