Gay Rights Hypocrisy: Bryan Adams boycotts Mississippi, has no problem doing shows in Egypt

originally posted by: NateTheAnimator

Cut the crap man. It was heavily implied by your previous post that you thought I was in support of the bill based on my criticisms of Bryan Adams's decision to boycott the state of Mississippi.

I did think think it. But you said you aren't and I believe you.

Bryan Adams is not American. The fact that he chooses to weigh in on U.S politics and hopes to influence political change by boycotting a state is logically inconsistent because A) He's done shows in other nation-states that have much harsher laws against LGBTs. Also I believe he played a show in Russia a few times. Russia BTW does have civil rights or at least a few of the political principles that make it up. Yet he didn't Boycott any of them.

B) Other states within the U.S. (e.g Alabama,North Carolina and Kentucky) Also have passed laws that discriminate against LGBTs, I don't see Bryan Adams boycotting those states either. Maybe he has correct me if I'm wrong. If he wanted to support LGBTs in Mississippi,canceling a show isn't the best way of showing solidarity,he could've used the opportunity to spread the message of civil rights.

Fine. I also don't know what Brian Adams schedule is either and I don't care. In fact at this point I don't even really remember the point of this argument. If you say he's inconsistent then he probably is. I don't care. You seem like a pretty cool person though and I'd rather not argue with your over Brian Adams especially. I'm over it. Let's just move on.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: LSU0408

You still haven't stated what rights were denied.

Don't tell us you feel they are ENTITLED to his concerts.


They were able to buy a ticket they also got a refund.

Has ANYONE seen any rights denied ??

I would wager that people are upset and boycotting and trying to deny things because they are mad that they cannot deny rights.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Right wingers are obsessed with Putin ?

You certainly are in a dualistic state of being that is literally unfathomable.

Doing the "right thing" is always the best thing for everyone , RIGHT.

That never goes down the "wrong" path, because you know it is RIGHT.

You forget how complex and played this world is, and fail to realize that it just never will go down like you say...

Your RIGHT THING, is always changing, taking a LEFT TURN.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Annee

No, LGBT is an identifier and a moniker.

NO

YES

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: NateTheAnimator

It's not a double standard though because Egypt doesn't have any such standard. Miss does.

That's what people are missing for some reason. WE HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS IN THE US!!! They don't exist in Egypt.

So you hold Egypt up to it's standards and the US up to ours. Miss. has failed as being part of what the US is about.

How so ?

They just defined the standards, they have now changed...they civil rights have the definition.

Anyways, a very false, limiting, and downright INSANE excuse and we wonder why things do not get better.

REALLY, so this means wherever I travel in the world I can expect to change my own standards , higher or lower because that is what they do ?

Such bizarre logic ACROSS THE BOARD.

I think you people really are not capable of seeing things in a "Big Picture" overview, yet are screaming that you are.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Teikiatsu

I don't see religious bakers and florists as participating in homosexuality when they do business with the homosexual community, just like some don't seem to think that hobby lobby is participating in abortion when they do business with Chinese businesses.
and well, the mississippi law goes beyond just baking cakes and doing floral arrangements. or really the homosexual issue.

But you see concerts as participating in bathroom laws ??

originally posted by: ketsuko
You can say all you want that Christ served sinners. He did; it's true, but he did not participate in their sins while doing so.

Hmm, I was not aware that the law forced bakers to have gay sex with their homosexual customers. You know, if helping everyone is good enough for Christ, it should be good enough for his "followers".

a reply to: ParasuvO

no, I see him choosing not to do the concert as his right, and well, his choice will cost him money which is also his right. ...
just like all those businesses that are deciding to avoid the states that pass these stupid laws.
heck maybe they have employees or others traveling there with them that these stupid laws will affect, or do you think that they will refrain from using the restroom during their visit to that great state?
I am also seeing all the griping, they "how dare they" crap coming from some people as hypocritical though. after all, they tell us that if one business doesn't want to sell us a cake, or birth control pills, or whatever, well, we can just go to another. well fine, if they want to go to a concert, well they can just go to another one.. or find another job, or whatever...
like I said, I've seen christian calling for boycotting businesses just because they interpret the symbolism of their logos as santanic, so what can I say, what goes around, comes around.

originally posted by: ParasuvO

They just defined the standards, they have now changed...they civil rights have the definition.

Who's they??

Anyways, a very false, limiting, and downright INSANE excuse and we wonder why things do not get better.

Things don't get better because some people view the world from a 2000 year old perspective.

REALLY, so this means wherever I travel in the world I can expect to change my own standards , higher or lower because that is what they do ?

No, but you should expect that nobody gives a sh*t about your standards because they have their own they live by.

Such bizarre logic ACROSS THE BOARD.

I think you people really are not capable of seeing things in a "Big Picture" overview, yet are screaming that you are.

Please do tell what that "big picture" overview is??? I'm sure it's very profound.

Talking of gay right is a total nonsense at this point, as the EU is constantly violating the right of every citizen in its private choices, even to the extent of using neurological manipulation technologies for the purpose of orchestrating marriages and manipulating the sexual and sentimental life of the EU citizens according to obscure, often depraved, plans that stay only in the heads of the EU commission in Brussels. Talking about gay rights in the EU right now is a complete bollock and people should be talking about the right of living without the government interfering with neurological weapons. Additionally one of the things the EU seems keen to do is to make sure that foreign people they like are fully pleasured sexually. For some strange reasons it seems that these foreigners are mostly coming from south america.

Which brings to the point of the brink of a revolution in the EU. That means, unless EU intelligence fanatics cease their activities or they are going to be overthrown one way or another!

Sounds like Mississippi dodged a bullet, the Egyptians apparently aren't that lucky.

It won't be the last time a vapid celebrity has-been bandwagons an issue to keep their name out there.

originally posted by: the owlbear
Bryan who?

Oh, you mean that guy that was relevant in the '80's?
Shouldn't he be playing state fairs and not rocking the Middle East?

Excuse me, Sir (I'm guessing) -

Bryan Adams is a very talented musician, under rated in fact. He was, and is, a very good guitarist, singer, composer, and with a unique sound as well. Lots of people like him and he sold millions of records. That says something.

Had some rockin badass tunes too -

Who doesn't listen to Fits Ya Good while enjoying some good schadenfreude and / or thanking your Voo Doo dolls?

a reply to: FalseMove

It doesn't matter. He poopoo'd some peoples political beliefs. That makes him scum and open to ridicule.... even if they've been a fan for 30 years.

a reply to: jjkenobi

Like many celebrities, he's clueless. Either he stands for something everywhere, or he doesn't stand for it at all. Picking and choosing is indeed the height of hypocrisy. Stand, or don't stand.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Either he stands for something everywhere, or he doesn't stand for it at all. Picking and choosing is indeed the height of hypocrisy. Stand, or don't stand.

This indicates the lack of nuance... No gray area. It's all black and white thinking... But life isn't like that and people aren't like that. We're all hypocritical in one way or another, whether you support war, but not choice, or if you support the right to abortion, yet are against corporal punishment. Religious people do it all the time. They pick and choose what to believe in their holy books and what to hold other people accountable for... To point out one man's inconsistency, when not one of us is 100% consistent in our positions, could be seen as the height of hypocrisy, too.

originally posted by: NthOther
Islam is ok because it's not Christianity. They can stone as many gay people to death in the streets as they want, as long as it's not Christians doing it.

If they were, then of course it would be totally bad and we should boycott them.

You forgot the white qualifier.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic


This indicates the lack of nuance...

You guys kill me with your mental gymnastics. You're not a hypocrite, or contradictory or just plain wrong. Nope, you're "nuanced".

originally posted by: TheBulk
You're not a hypocrite, or contradictory or just plain wrong. Nope, you're "nuanced".

Hey, I said I'm a hypocrite on the FIRST PAGE of this thread. And I'm many times wrong and have said so. So, your spew is meaningless.

We're all human beings, with human failings.

What do you have to say about people who hold everyone ELSE to some higher standard than they hold themselves?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: amicktd

I'm not whining, I'm pointing out your hypocrisy.

Fundamentally, there is no difference here aside from the reasons for refusal. In a nutshell, you are agreeing with one group and not the other. I think either both groups can do this or neither group can.

In other words, fine. Let Bryan Adams stay up in Canada and be Canadian Screaming Guy (our high school's nickname for him), but if you are fine with him doing this, then you are fine with every other person who objects to participating in an event on moral grounds, too.

And if you aren't, then you need to examine why that is because there is no real difference other than your own personal morality at work. And if your own morality is the only reason you are bent on shoving a practice and behavior down someone else's throat, then it sort of blows up the whole "how dare you shove your morality down my throat arguement" because now you find out that you are completely capable of it too.

What? This is a story of a Canadian guy who cancelled a concert in a state because they passed legislation that discriminates against LGBT. Correct?

If so, are they going to be refunded their ticket prices? If the answer is yes, I don't see an issue. So he cancelled a concert, big deal I mean I haven't even heard of the guy. I commented on the thread wondering why the same group of people who dislike the LGBT because they are "sinners" are whining about it. Pretty simple really, I don't really care either way.

Oh and what's this with my morality. Why do you want to bring me personally into the topic? You don't know me.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: jjkenobi

Like many celebrities, he's clueless. Either he stands for something everywhere, or he doesn't stand for it at all. Picking and choosing is indeed the height of hypocrisy. Stand, or don't stand.

Sounds like an ideologue, I take it you don't know the term moderate?