Zika risks lengthen as new effects in adults are seen

An American neurology study of confirmed Zika cases in adults has identified two neurological diseases as well as eye disease developing in some of those adult patients during the course of their illness. That finding suggests new risks of Zika for adults, in addition to the severe birth defects suffered by the newborn children of those who became ill with Zika while pregnant:

www.sciencedaily.com...

More study has to be done before it can be said why the human central nervous system (and now the eye) is so vulnerable to Zika.

It seems unlikely to me that mere coincidence explains why first AIDS and now Zika arose in West Africa in the first decade of atmospheric nuclear weapons testing in the 20th century. West Africa got an inordinate amount of fallout from those nuclear tests because of its routine heavy rainfall, since West Africa is a rain forest. Linus Pauling, MD, and a number of other researchers did predict the eventual rise of recessive genetic diseases as a result of increased fallout exposure to ionizing radiation.

a reply to: Uphill
You were doing good right up till that last paragraph . Radiation doesnt mutate viruses that quickly. And most times it actually sterilizes them, They can not reproduce.

Zika and AIDS are not recessive genetic malfunctions .

Here is the latest CDC map of the range for the mosquito (Aedes aegypti) that is the most likely mosquito species involved in the spread of Zika virus:

www.cdc.gov...

a reply to: Uphill

Hold on, you are making a connection between nuclear weapons use and AIDS and Zika Viruses? Not a theory I've heard before but intriguing nonetheless.

I want to know more but when I research this I am only finding information about people who suffered from fallout exposure in the military

originally posted by: Uphill
An American neurology study of confirmed Zika cases in adults has identified two neurological diseases as well as eye disease developing in some of those adult patients during the course of their illness. That finding suggests new risks of Zika for adults, in addition to the severe birth defects suffered by the newborn children of those who became ill with Zika while pregnant:

www.sciencedaily.com...

More study has to be done before it can be said why the human central nervous system (and now the eye) is so vulnerable to Zika.

It seems unlikely to me that mere coincidence explains why first AIDS and now Zika arose in West Africa in the first decade of atmospheric nuclear weapons testing in the 20th century. West Africa got an inordinate amount of fallout from those nuclear tests because of its routine heavy rainfall, since West Africa is a rain forest. Linus Pauling, MD, and a number of other researchers did predict the eventual rise of recessive genetic diseases as a result of increased fallout exposure to ionizing radiation.

I should have added the study you mention on my thread about the increased concern over the Zika virus I posted earlier.

It makes it even more clear.

a reply to: Uphill

No, just no.
The reason so many diseases are rife in several countries is due to poor medical services, prevention and treatment.

It's really pretty simple. In the West you are immunized against various diseases and viruses, you have access to medicine, you have a family doctor you can go and see when you're sick. You can go to the chemist and get something to treat that nasty cold. You can take a week off work and get over whatever it is you have.

Most people in the world do not have this luxurious lifestyle. Millions of people in the world do not have vaccination as a child, millions don't even have clean water to drink. They certainly don't have the means to clean their environment or themselves whenever they feel like it, nor do they have a chemist to visit (even if they could afford it) and they don't have a doctor to go to.

It's baffling to me why anyone would take great leaps to find an explanation so bizarre, when reality explains everything quite simply.

I have a feeling this might be because too many people just don't understand how damn lucky they have it, or how impoverished so much of the world really is.

a reply to: Rocker2013
Yes, the last part about nuclear fallout in West Africa is not the reason.

Lots of man made toxins in the environment give rise to mutations, not just radioactive contamination, most of which give rise to a plethora of cancers. IOW, genetic de volving not making new virus traits.

The virus pool is mutating on its own, the further and wider it spreads, the larger the pool of virus around, the more likely it is to develop mutations.

a reply to: Uphill

Ah the benefits of globalization.........more and more diseases and plagues being transferred out of the crap hole third world to the first world countries. This really doesn't seem capable of ending well.

Most people I know seem to have a big head. I don't think that Zeka is the reason most of us are a little nuts.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Uphill
You were doing good right up till that last paragraph . Radiation doesnt mutate viruses that quickly. And most times it actually sterilizes them, They can not reproduce.

Zika and AIDS are not recessive genetic malfunctions .

But his Spidey sense is tingling!

In the real world, the transcription process for virii is busted. Replication errors (that lead to mutations) are simply what viruses do, even in toxin and ionizing radiation free environments.

a reply to: Gothmog -- thank you for your reply. When you get a chance, I would like to review any example you can find in the coming days on typical time frames for the mutation of viruses by radiation.

a reply to: TonyS

Ah the benefits of globalization.........more and more diseases and plagues being transferred out of the crap hole third world to the first world countries. This really doesn't seem capable of ending well.

If only the 1st world countries would have cared enough about the suffering that these viruses bring to 3rd world people, then the 1st world countries could have looked for a cure and probably found it by now and stop it from spreading to the 1st world countries.

There are consequences to living without compassion. Compassion for the poor, homeless, and 3rd world countries could have prevented this.

a reply to: arpgme

That's quite true. A perfect example of the 1st world not giving a crap about the 3rd world was the last Ebola outbreak. When a couple of cases of Ebola finally made it to Europe and the US, they finally decided to allocate money and resources to fight the disease in Africa.

Once the 1st world stepped in, the Ebola outbreak was brought under control and the spread of the disease was halted. When Zika makes its way to the 1st world and a few babies are born without brains, money and resources will finally come to the rescue.

I'm not saying that's the way it should be, but it certainly is the way it will be.

-dex

We had a dengue outbreak recently, but I wasn't afraid of it, we constantly have mosquitos but I figured if I get dengue then no problem I'tl be OK. After reading more about the Zika virus, I am terrified of this!

a reply to: arpgme

Well, that is one way of looking at it.

However, first world countries have poured trillions of dollars of aid into the 3rd world countries only to see the money stolen by corrupt 3rd world leaders, politicians and backroom con men. So, 3rd world criminals with no compassion also play a big part of the problem.

a reply to: TonyS ... agreed. Zika must be addressed with serious funding to find a vaccine. That's why I added the mosquito range map (for North America) near the top of this thread. If you live in that range area, take protective measures ASAP. That includes eliminating standing water, using mosquito repellent (especially at dawn and dusk), the whole protocol.

I expect the mosquito range to gradually increase northward, however, if climate warming trends continue. Bummer. Many homes in the US Pacific Northwest have small to medium size outdoor ponds, ideal for mosquito breeding. Most likely, public health authorities will advise moving pond waters into covered water tanks. Expensive.

Anyway, starting now, it's a good time to start working seriously on building up our immune systems. Adopt more of a natural foods diet (garlic, especially aged garlic, which you can make at home (20 month process) or buy the trade name Kyolic, and fresh ginger are especially effective). Moderate exercise, and break up your screen time into smaller chunks. This is all doable. Hang in there.

From Reuters news service, April 2016, is another update on the nature of and effects of the Zika virus:

www.yahoo.com...

A number of medical researchers are now beginning to suspect that the original Zika virus has mutated into a pandemic form (more easily spread) that directly attacks nerve tissue.

April 20, 2016: Today's press release on Zika from the conference this week of the American Academy of Neurology:

www.aan.com...

"Similar to multiple sclerosis," they say.

Anecdotal reports from thousands of people worldwide who follow the macrobiotic (MB) diet report they stopped getting mosquito bites soon after making those changes in their diet and lifestyle. I've been one of those MB people for 8 years now. If more details are wanted on that diet, we can discuss it in the ATS food forum.

From MSNBC cable TV news on Sunday, August 21, 2016, comes the most competent follow-up report on the Zika virus I have seen this year. A US medical doctor, an infectious disease specialist, reports that Alzheimer's-like symptoms are arising among patients with the Zika virus:

www.msnbc.com...