Philip Corso's Notes - Dawn of a New Age

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: AboveBoard

Have you ever watched the original Star Trek Pilot, "The Cage" ?
en.wikipedia.org...(Star_Trek)#The_Cage

You no doubt know, that many (perhaps all) "true high strangeness sightings" of
apparently nuts and bolts craft have strong psychoactive effects?

How does one distinguish whether an apparent "nuts and bolts spacecraft"
is what one thinks it is?

Not heckling you or preaching at you.. it's a fair question isn't it?

I sure had to struggle with the question when I saw my own close up BTUFO.

Kev

Have I seen "The Cage?" lol! My brother and I used to have contests to see who could name what episode the fastest. I'm rusty now, but Captain Pike and that entire drama was "fascinating."

I'm not feeling heckled. I am certainly not coming at this from a sense of "knowing it all" so I have nothing really to get defensive about!

In relation to High Strangeness, how much could technology play a part in that?
From Corso's notes:

I receìved a piece of informai: ion that a group of
industri al ists in a northeast state were on the verge of a break -
through. They claimed that they were on the verge of a beyond
the "state-of -the-art n discovery. This was the alignment of
atoms or molecules in steel . We knew that this has been done,
but didn't know how it was done. We had a sample. A small
piece. The report read it was found in the Western U.S. desert ,
Believed to be from an UFO (not conclusive) . Under certain
conditions it would light up. Although beyond our state of the
art alignment of atoms in a paper thin sheet of steel would give
it such strength that it was beyond our imagination. It would
make a spaceship " light as a feather' 1 but of such strength that
it would be collision proof and no debris in space could harm or
even dent it. Ali our weapons would be obsolete. Radiation or
cosmic rays could not penetrate the skin. However, a different
alignment would allow the passing of cosmic rays or radiation and
make possible a propulsion system of such force that space travel
would be simplified, and at speeds beyond our comprehensìon.
Another alignment, and stili retaining its great strength, would
make the steel or aluminum transparent. Conclusions for guidance
made for Chief of U.S. Army R&D were mainly from R&D
laboratories . There was strong evidence that molecules-atoms
were aligned.

Also, could something about the technology be effecting our rather limited brains?? Our senses can so easily betray us, and things can hide in plain sight by tricking them.

Again, I don't have answers. I do think the telepathic communications are very interesting, and DeLonge's book clearly mentions telepathic methods of flying a craft. So, you are hinting around at things. Go ahead. Lay it on the table!


- AB

If they are flying telepathically with a headset device it seems plausible that if there was a disruption in their connection that they couldn't fly the craft. In UFO lore it was the radar that took down both crafts near Roswell. It was said that the circuits or chips recovered resembled the shape of the Pentagon. What if after some of the previous crash retrievals like the one in Cape Girardeau, Missouri in 1941 they decided to try to make contact. So they rushed the development of a huge building in the shape of their circuitry chips to send a message to them on who they should make contact with. Like the Nazca lines that can only be seen from the air, so they would build the Pentagon in the same manner.

a reply to: AboveBoard

You know that I talked with a giant black triangle UFO for about 45 seconds right? My hand drawing of it is on my profile wall.

It was the damndest thing.

I learned so much from that experience.

That and when Jacques Vallee came to my house for the day.

Kev

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: AboveBoard

You know that I talked with a giant black triangle UFO for about 45 seconds right? My hand drawing of it is on my profile wall.

It was the damndest thing.

I learned so much from that experience.

That and when Jacques Vallee came to my house for the day.

Kev

Ah! Nope. I had not read of your sighting. I would love to, though. I did not "communicate" with the perfect amber circle that skimmed across the sky, then went instantly so fast it blurred, and then "poof" was no longer there BUT I could feel a very strong sense of mission and purpose from it, an extremely intense feeling of a mind working very very hard and fast. It was weird. I don't feel that when I see an airplane, for example. It was utterly unconcerned about me, frankly, so I don't have anything cool like that.

Did you know Jacques Vallee or did he come to do research?

Link me? Thanks!

- AB

a reply to: AboveBoard

As a former nuclear reactor engineer and a "not shaman" (if I call myself a 'shaman' certain somewhat unstable individuals go crazy all over me) I tend to get to know various "sorcerer physicists", mystics, misfits, etc. Some of my writing recently was published by a big name author too! I've also hobnobbed with a few of the world's most famous mystics in the past 100
years too. I guess that's one of the rewards of being a curious old man.

Actually JV is a friend of a friend, who by the way is also a "sorcerer physicist" - a very famous one too.

But yes, i certainly did discuss all the famous UFO cases with him, satellite events, "crash sites", my theory about plasma lifeforms, my sighting, skinwalker ranch--- pretty much everything anyone could want out of an "AMA" except much more.

And, interestingly enough, most of it is already out there --- in his books... in my posts.. nothing is particularly hidden.. and really things are fairly obvious.

Sort of like the last scene in "Indiana Jones" in that vast warehouse.. nearly everything is visible in plain sight if you know how to look at little red wagons anyway.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Well, Kev, we all are fumbling around in the dark with our own candle here, and after reading some of the things regarding "the soul" on your site, I have to say that my own experience is quite different. I do not believe it is "harvested" but that we are part of a sort of hologram generated by Source. We simply return Home, in various ways. Unless it is a semantics issue and "soul" means something other than one's consciousness after one passes through the veil, then...

In any case, I think that is a discussion for another thread, perhaps.

As for Corso and nuts and bolts craft, well, I'm still researching and feeling out my own opinions. I respect Vallee, don't get me wrong there, and fully understand the freak-factor of places like Skinwalker Ranch.

For myself:

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio

peace, Kev, and I look forward to further discussions.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: AboveBoard

So far, what I'm reading is that the "aliens" were as advanced as we are now. Fiber optics, night vision, transistors and integrated circuits.

I seriously doubt an alien craft from another world that could use FTL or some other form of travel would still be using fiber optics or have integrated circuits.

I have often had this same thought about ETs. If they can travel the stars their technology must look like magic and not resemble anything ever seen.
But think about this, maybe some ETS are not so much more superior than us. Maybe they have discovered how to warp spacetime and travel these vast distances but some of there other technology isn't that far off from our stuff. Maybe they are prone to mistakes just like us humans. There have been a lot of reported ufos crashing. So the warp drive is incredible tech but maybe they do have fiber optics and other known tech in theirs crafts that can fail just like our space crafts. Just a thought

Another interesting tidbit from the Corso Notes...

This caught my eye!!

During my R&D days, radio transmissions were recorded from
outer space. They were organi zed and orderly. No the
disorganized space noise we tried to answer, but without success,
and were never able to decode the transmissions or estabi ish
contact. Information carne from the super secret National
Security Àgency .

Our conclusion on UFO;'s was that they exìsted. We had
reports of objects from a mother ship and we believe what was
recovered were parts of sphere type probes. Usually four or five
of these carne from every saucer. They are for protection and
reconnaissance . Our radar images of formations probably are
these probes surrounding one or two flying saucers , They
dissolve in a transparent alignment of atoms, Our radar pass
through; they disappear from our sight, and are gathered into the
mother ship and are realigned for space trave!. We estimated
that our judgement was 75% accurate [based on fact) , 25%
questionable .

I doubt there is any way to "vet" that, and even he says it's an educated guess (75% fact / 25% questionable).

I do find the idea of the material/metal that makes a UAP being able to realign its structure for different "modes" of travel, detection vs 'invisibility' to radar, etc. We have SOME "memory metals" and transformable crystalline structures being developed, especially in nano materials, as well as simple elements that can be transformed in a single way, but nothing like what he's implying.

IF the craft were also responsive to "brain waves" - i.e. telepathy, THEN its possible that it is an intelligent nano-structure with an AI interface of some sort - a "living machine."

THAT would be amazingly cool... Of course I'm extrapolating with bits of research here and there, and I've got zero proof, but still...what if?

- AB

And for those wanting to understand a bit more back-story on these notes, here is some information I found...
It speaks to two things, one very important idea is that Corso DID NOT APPROVE of all the changes that had been made to his book "The Day After Roswell," according to this quote from his son... Interesting...

Philip J. Corso, Sr. died in July of 1998 at the age of 83. Thirteen years after his death, we will finally get to see his manuscript, which has never released in the US [the only foreign edition was published in Italy by Pendragon in 2003]. People interested in UFOs will be compelled to read this book, because too much of the information in the bestseller “The Day After Roswell” does not stand up to what Corso really wrote in his diary. Philip Corso Jr., a man devoted to fulfill his father’s legacy, described the manuscript in his lecture at the 2007 IUFOC in Laughlin.

“…“Dawn Of A New Age”, I had no intentions to put out this book. This one here [holding a book] is all in my dad’s original handwriting. Part of it is in typing and part of it is in handwriting. What it really [contains] is the original notes. The original notes without Hollywood involved is what the people really wanted. They don’t want it edited. But it reads like a textbook, in other words. It’s a manual…. Well, Dad went through “The Day After Roswell” and was yellow lining everything that he didn’t say and didn’t like. He got half way through it and quit because it was impossible. He had almost every page blacked out… This book [The Day After Roswell], my dad was really very upset about it… he did not proofread it.”

LINK

It looks like most of the original WAS handwritten, which is why we have all these typos from the scanning process, I'm guessing. These are the real story, then, and the actual text, I'm supposing, was not polished into a "book format," so much as it represents the organized but raw memories. I don't know how much work he put into ensuring the information was 100% accurate.

Frankly, I find this an exciting read, myself.

- AB

originally posted by: TamtammyMacx
In UFO lore it was the radar that took down both crafts near Roswell.

What radar would that be exactly? RAAF base did not have radar in 1947....

a reply to: hellobruce

In Corso's notes, there was a theory (he didn't claim to know exactly what happened) that two crafts hit each other...

He didn't speculate as to why...

originally posted by: youcanttellthepeople
a reply to: vethumanbeing

I'm curious as to what your father meant by burning the book. Did he do it because he thought you were being stupid, or was he concerned by it's contents. Sorry - I couldn't grasp the context from your post.

My father; what a creation indeed he was (held a lighting bolt/olive branch within a gloved hand) "Aggressurum Deterremus". He was concerned about my studies; intentions or proclivities regarding the little green men is all. They ALL in his position knew there was a highly classified incident in Roswell; knew the circumstances of truth and if known to the populace would cause havoc. Instead; let the film industry take care of it, which they did (War of the Worlds etc); turn it into fantasy fiction. Thanks for asking.

originally posted by: Whatsthisthen
In reply to Vethumanbeing

Whatsthisthen: The origin of knowledge. Be it esoteric, arcane or otherwise can be put into two groups: original or secondhand. Within esoteric circles such as freemasonry, knowledge is the later. Yes, it circulates and is overlaid, the grand plan is written into the fabric of society. Civilisation repeats and repeats the same patterns. Closed systems and agendas.

Those systems are never closed as repeat themselves (they are continually expanding/recreating on past experiences). You speak of the origin of knowledge as being of two flavors. Mine is Original thought. Freemasonry has colored it for its own gain (reasoning for not apparent) but suspect it regards money, influence and ritual entertainment.

Whatsthisthen: couldn't care less how these groups go about manefesting their agendas. Yes, you are correct Vethumanbeing, I have no idea how it works because I am not within that circle nor do I have spirit guides to keep me on the straight and narrow. And yes the historical overlays are there also.

Your higher selves (self) exist; of course you have spirit guides. I am not sure how "IT" manipulates or works at all as is sticky Karma I avoid.

Whatsthisthen: I don't live in a utopia, far from it, I live amidst a tragedy where humanity is subject to the agendas of others. Diversity is a wonderful thing and who knows what humanity could achieve and discover if we were allowed to do so.

So do we all; ordinary people, as are not of the Empirical privileged class. Diversity in unity is the goal. I will tell you this (secret) some of us are very aware of what is occurring and paying close attention.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: AboveBoard

You know that I talked with a giant black triangle UFO for about 45 seconds right? My hand drawing of it is on my profile wall.It was the damndest thing.I learned so much from that experience.
That and when Jacques Vallee came to my house for the day.Kev

Black Triangle. I witnessed one in March of 1997 at approximately 6:00 pm. Took up 45 degrees of the sky, flew silent and slow over Davis Montham AFB; my neighborhood on the east side headed toward the Rincon Mts. Slow silent and low. This thing was huge; all cars stopped on Houghton Rd and passengers drivers got out of their vehicles to witness (try this today and everyone would have recorded this on smart phones).

Thanks AB! you saved me from going looking

On topic- thanks OP, threads like THIS are the reason I love ATS. Threads like this offer advancement in our search for the truth, and I'll be digging away looking into this.

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: hellobruce

In Corso's notes, there was a theory (he didn't claim to know exactly what happened) that two crafts hit each other...

He didn't speculate as to why...

Sounds pretty 3 stooges to me.

What kind of fumbling incompetents are these hypothetical alien beings?

I think you can get a Volkswagen with collision avoidance systems..

When people have to make near endless silly excuses for their "gods" then its quite obvious that its pure hokum.

Time for a new theory entirely.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

Some people see things like this or even more undeniable. But all we get on ATS are pictures of balloons, Chinese lanterns and poor shaky exposures of the planet Venus.

Its almost like something outside of time entirely is maximising the frustration...like leprechauns whose pot of gold can never be stolen, no matter how many times its seen.

a reply to: AboveBoard

I barely try to have good discussions on ATS anymore...have barely started a post in 2 years.

To discuss interesting subjects properly and to sustain it amidst all the generalities and assumptions...is difficult.

Even on my own blog.

I say that we are part of a larger symbiotic framework. And yes, sometimes little lives form in us and breakaway... It happened to me.

But "harvesting"? Not really. Loosh? Not really.

We are more like waves than particles. Waves interacting with other waves. Saying "I am this" or "I am that" is only minimally meaningful.

If this was 30 years ago, people might meet up and talk. I might feel a desire to spend a month explaining things...demonstrating...maybe watch a BTUFO together.

But on ATS we all ponder our thoughts for many hours until they are all crystallized like armor around us, And then we clash off of each other.

Doesn't seem collaborative or interesting.

Kev