Newly discovered planet could destroy Earth any day now

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: 2012newstart

Actually, forget all that. I can debunk your silly Nibiri pretty quickly.

If we can't see it till roughly 7 days before it comes here and destroys us, how has it been detected and its path been determined to be a collision or close enough to cause a mass extinction? According to you (and others) no one can detect it.

Bye bye stupid theory.

I suggest you have watched some movies such as "Armageddon" how the professional federal sponsored agencies do it. I mean they really do it, with all hardware mentioned above, but they don't tell us about that. All of them, Russians, EU, Japanese, know of it. So is the French minister who said enigmatic 500 days remain, standing next to Kerry in televised interviews. See him on youtube. Climate change was the permitted topic of course. Because climate change may happen due to several reasons and one of them is the discussed one here. Sure they know where the planet is, sure they won't tell us until the last weeks.

The rest is your guess and mine. Your belief and mine. Stay safe!

a reply to: 2012newstart

So your proof of an impending doom planet is sci-fi?!

You do know that the fi part of sci-fi stands for fiction, right?

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: 2012newstart

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: 2012newstart

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: 2012newstart
a reply to: Flavian

the time periods are much shorter. Remember the Flood and the Exodus. Not every time all dinosaurs are killed.

There is no proof of a world wide flood or mass exodus apart from fairy tales.

Oh Yes...

No, there is not.

The bible (or other religious texts) is not a history book.

It is your choice. If you think you can do it by yourself, please do so, and count on your telescope to save your life, and that of your loved ones.

So where's the actual proof of a flood?

In a number of books considered holy, far not only the Bible. In extinction events. Including human extinction event that happened during Noah's time. Humans were slated to merely several nations to survive. (may be there were more than Noah's ship to give rise of Asians etc). If we start to argue about every single piece of precious information from the past, we won't reach much further. You don't have to be religious to take the evidence written historic books as credible enough who didn't just lie of what they wrote. People didn't lie of events like that, in their time. It is our civilization who lies for small and big, not those ancient people who were considered saints and prophets.

This was my last answer.

a reply to: 2012newstart

So your proof of a flood isn't science or history?

I think you seriously need to reevaluate your way of thinking.

a reply to: Misterlondon

I agree, been getting to much information to just sweep under the rug.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: 2012newstart

So your proof of a flood isn't science or history?

I think you seriously need to reevaluate your way of thinking.

If you prefer to call all ancient and therefore "sacred texts" because there weren't others, mostly, to call them BS, it is your right to do so. I do not mess up with your way to believe. For me that is a archeo-science too, as much important as modern astronomy to predict what practically you never seen in your lifetime and the lifetime of Newton and Kepler.. Those are the only texts that survived time, such as the Sumer tests, that speak of Nibiru. Like it or not. I do not necessarily follow the Sumer religion but do not deny their texts. As well as every available text that brings more into a picture that none of us is being born with it or studied at school. Not even the professional astronomers. We are doing quest from its beginning, and any new piece of info may prove to be vital. Regardless if we like the source or not.

Currenty, two MSM news outlets report a scientific story of a possible comet bombardment due to the presence of that planet 9. Indeed not exactly what many expect as close approach of that planet, anyway that is what is published in MSM and that is kind of first substantiated warning to population as well. Because besides all astronomy, it has dating in it. WIll it fail, too? I am not a prophet to know! Perhaps it will. My purpose here is not to declare every next piece of evidence as failed in advance, but to search and gather such precious pieces of evidence to build the big picture. That's why Ia m here, for free.

Now if you'd excuse me, the story of NY Times is posted in the British Sun.

www.thesun.co.uk...

To expect more by MSM if we have a month until the inevitable, is not realistic. And we don't know how much time we have, months or years or more.

It was a pleasure to check where I stand in Biblicle terms, thanks to your constant questions, rejections, counter-statements etc. In a sense, you helped my faith growing stronger, thank you!

and that is my last post for today sorry. Although I want to continue discussion I may not be available for personal reasons.

a reply to: 2012newstart

The Sunerian tablets didn't predict or speak of Nibiru/Planet X. It was a fabrication by Sitchin.

It's not coming.

The same way it was "predicted" in 1999 and didn't come.

The same way it was "predicted" in 2012 and didn't come.

The same way it was "predicted" in 2015 and didn't come.

There has been hype about it for years. Newspapers went nuts over it each time. And still, it didn't come.

originally posted by: UnBreakable
Hey, don't shoot the messenger. This was in the NY Post yesterday. I guess they got tired of Cruz and Trump stories. Of course, we'll be laughing at this come May.......... I hope.

A mysterious planet that wiped out life on Earth millions of years ago could do it again, according to a top space scientist. And some believe the apocalyptic event could happen as early as this month.

Conspiracy theorists in the ’80s and ’90s previously claimed a red dwarf planet called Nibiru or Nemesis, which orbits too close to Earth every 36,000 years, was behind the events. Now some are convinced there will be a collision or a near miss before the end of April. Nemesis or Nibiru was widely dismissed as crackpot pseudo-science — until Planet Nine was identified in January by the California Institute of Technology.

nypost.com...

If only...

originally posted by: kuraijanai2013
Maybe this recent sighting from the ISS helps? If you look closely at the last two stills at the end of the video it appears like the light from the sun overhead is reflecting on a spherical (planet like) object. Interestingly the ISS viewing channel is now offline..

youtu.be...

That's something reflecting the Earthglow and most likely the last Russian supply ship leaving the ISS to make way for the Spce-X craft which launches this evening, and scheduled to dock with the ISS in a couple of days.

"Planet Nine" is a theory, not a fact.

It is a theory based on data extrapolation of the orbits of Kuipier belt orbits, however the planet has not been "discovered" - it has been theorized

So anyone wanting to pander to doom porn on this is - frankly - stupid, because they are speculating on something that may yet still not exist, as there are other potential explanations for the movement of the distant objects in the solar system, including influences from the gravity of Neptune, Uranus, Saturn and Jupiter, all of whom had a massive influence on the outer solar system as they were forming, and they still exert that influence today.

a reply to: neformore

Actually, you're kind of wrong.

It's a hypothesis, not a theory. (in scientific terms)

(Please don't ban me. Here's a beer )

Nobody I asked who watched it enjoyed the movie. I really liked Melancholia.

From what I can tell there is no logic to these assumptions. It's sensational nonsense meant to get ratings. Click bait.

Let me be clear, that in no way discounts the sci-fi that was Melancholia circa 2011. She's the real deal.

originally posted by: skywatcher44

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
Originally published by : The Sun. If you're familiar with The Sun, you don't need to be worried.

HOWEVER, as someone already pointed out, the whole idea of Planet X has been talked about a lot more recently. And I see things like this that, although it's from a dodgy source, make me wonder... would we know? would we see it coming?

I can't for the life of me find the details but didn't a huge meteorite fall to earth in the last few months that nobody saw coming? Why are we so sure we can see everything that's coming?

But yes, in regards to this article. Take it for what it is.

Not just reported by the Sun. They may have enhanced the story in a doomgloom way but two concise links below..

www.dailygalaxy.com...

The Swiss scientists are experts in modelling the evolution of planets. They usually study the formation of young exoplanets in disks around other stars light years away and the possible direct imaging of these objects with future instruments such as the James Webb Space Telescope. They estimate that the object has a present-day radius equal to 3.7 Earth radii and a temperature of minus 226 degrees Celsius.

The six most distant known objects in the solar system shown below with orbits exclusively beyond Neptune (magenta) all mysteriously line up in a single direction. Also, when viewed in three dimensions, they tilt nearly identically away from the plane of the solar system. Batygin and Brown show that a planet with 10 times the mass of the earth in a distant eccentric orbit anti-aligned with the other six objects (orange) is required to maintain this configuration [Diagram created using WorldWide Telescope].

phys.org...

Astrophysicists at the University of Bern have modelled the evolution of the putative planet in the outer solar system. They estimate that the object has a present-day radius equal to 3.7 Earth radii and a temperature of minus 226 degrees Celsius.

Thanks for this!! It's quite funny how the long elliptical orbit of "Nibiru" was laughed at. Now look.

originally posted by: 2012newstart
Having in mind it comes from South and behind Sun, as all available sources online say it, your chance to see it from the Northern hemisphere with amateur telescope reaches zero.

Okay... stop the bubble machine there. The Earth's orbit (yearly) shows us every part of the sky. The Mythical Planet can't possibly be playing hide-and-go-seek behind the sun all that time.

Now think about the story. It claims
* someone saw the object and eventually identified it as a planet, not a star (which means multiple observations over a period of months or years because at that distance it'd move slowly.
* that this observation was confirmed
* that it was watched long enough (months or years) so that an orbit could be calculated
* that the orbit was checked and confirmed.

That means that it's in a part of the sky that's visible some or all of the year from one or both hemispheres.

We can see and track 1036 Ganymed and that's an asteroid and not a planet and is a mere 20 miles in diameter. Ceres is easy to find and it's only 590 miles in diameter (you could just about fit two of them into the State of Texas)

I can't think of any way that an object that's more than 600 miles in diameter can be overlooked as it heads toward Earth. Comets like Kahoutek (1974) were visible by the unaided eye for 10 months, and comets are considerably smaller than dwarf planets.

Why the professional astronomers keep silence, if they have the 8m telescopes in Chile, orbital telescopes, and have scanned the sky with WISE infrared satellite to search exactly for hard to seen in visible light brown dwarfs and alike objects within the solar system?

I would say that the "why" is "because it's not there." Remember that they're the ones who have been warning us of Near Earth Asteroids.

Obviously humanity won't be told officially too long before the event, for fear of society break down.

That only makes sense for Overly Dramatic Science Fiction Movies. In real life, you'd want as much of society to survive as possible so you'd organize the world to step in and do something (have all the nuclear-capable nations in the world fling nukes at it, for instance) --because if society doesn't survive, the elites won't either. Dear Donald Trump might be capable of building the biggest and best underground bunker to survive the Planet-calypse, but he won't be able to farm the land or do anything afterwards.

The elites need the workers of the world.

We will know it no more than 2 maximum 3 weeks in advance. Naked eye - 1 week in advance, as prophecies say.

There's no way a secret like that could be kept. Somebody would tell their family, who would tell THEIR closest loved ones... and so on and so forth.

a reply to: UnBreakable
Where is the hypothesized Tyche at?

a reply to: UnBreakable

Wait I only have a month to complete my bucket list time to charge it.

Rats. I guess I should sell my meteorites before the price crashes because they will be so common.

Oh well, guess I didn't have to pay anything for them in the first place, so I am not losing anything.

Got three bottles of Seagrams stashed away in case the world decides to come to an end.

Actually, when I die, my world comes to an end anyway, our reality just disappears. Point of perspective does apply.

originally posted by: Byrd
That only makes sense for Overly Dramatic Science Fiction Movies. In real life, you'd want as much of society to survive as possible so you'd organize the world to step in and do something (have all the nuclear-capable nations in the world fling nukes at it, for instance) --because if society doesn't survive, the elites won't either. Dear Donald Trump might be capable of building the biggest and best underground bunker to survive the Planet-calypse, but he won't be able to farm the land or do anything afterwards.

The elites need the workers of the world.

We will know it no more than 2 maximum 3 weeks in advance. Naked eye - 1 week in advance, as prophecies say.

There's no way a secret like that could be kept. Somebody would tell their family, who would tell THEIR closest loved ones... and so on and so forth.

RT has the story now. www.rt.com... Conditionally, of course.

It is a time for me to say it plainly, I do not expect the big doom to happen this April. I just review possibilities What If.

There is a way secret like that to be hidden in plain sight. Actually, MSM already said it. Scientists said it, although retired ones. I'd like as much of society to survive as possible, and to be there survival attempts on the side of the power holders. It would be the best scenario, not the worst. As of now, we haven't reached that point, and we may never reach it. I don't know when Planet X or its debris will hit the earth.

Planet X to really cause mass extinction this month? www.rt.com...

originally posted by: neformore
"Planet Nine" is a theory, not a fact.

It is a theory based on data extrapolation of the orbits of Kuipier belt orbits, however the planet has not been "discovered" - it has been theorized

So anyone wanting to pander to doom porn on this is - frankly - stupid, because they are speculating on something that may yet still not exist, as there are other potential explanations for the movement of the distant objects in the solar system, including influences from the gravity of Neptune, Uranus, Saturn and Jupiter, all of whom had a massive influence on the outer solar system as they were forming, and they still exert that influence today.

I agree ! But lets play for a moment in the conspiracy realm

There is a theory that every 26 to 27 million years there is an extinction event on planet earth.. OK... It is theorized that the newly almost found planet 9's orbit is 20,000 years to make it around the sun for a planet 9 solar year. It supposedly has a very inclined orbit compared to the other known planets.

Jupiter has been hit this month by something which made the news and we did have two very close approaches by comet/debris in the last few months. If the orbit of planet nine perturbs the Kuiper belt's denizens as it approaches its closes point to the sun then .... well there you go... Poof.... no more B.S. because it may be over for mankind.. Also if Pluto was still a planet it would be number 9 and this new body would be 10 or roman numerical X... There you go for all those who miss the old planet "X" stuff !

Do I think we will meet our end by the end of this month... NO.... A Psyops works by putting out false information such as a date a couple of times and then people just figure it is another doom porn article or a weak conspiracy and disregard.. There is a reason for a Psyops; read on...

People with big bucks and governments around the world have sure been doing allot of digging for underground bases and shelters from what we have been allowed to hear or read about.. Wonder if fore knowledge of something like planet 9s approach was a motivator ?

Besides planet 9's mass which I have heard could be up to 1000 times that of earth (think brown dwarf however, probably closer to a Jupiter type size or smaller) with the probable gravitational effect on the solar system, think about the possibility of all the trash and maybe moons that are following this beast.. Then as it passes the Kuiper belt and picks up no telling how many sweepers (think of followers, like comets and asteroids) we could have a big target painted on planet earth and planet 9 is shooting several shotguns with slugs and double 0000...

We do live in a solar shooting gallery and if not for our moon and Jupiter (which has a mass of around 318 earths which helps it act like a vacuum cleaner sucking up wayward trash) we would be an even larger target than we already are.

If the world governments knew we were approaching an extinction event like some doom porn is hinting, do you think they would tell us ? Do you think the governments would think their populations would continue to work and pay taxes if they knew ? Forget touchy feely and what is right... would they tell us or just act like business as usual as they move into their deep underground bunkers.... only to emerge after we on the surface are fried green tomatoes ? Just thoughts and much could be wrong with this scenario but it still would make a decent 1950ish short story no ?

a reply to: UnBreakable

Maybe there are more hidden planets than planet X.

X has kicked a lot of other objects (maybe dwarf planets) out of orbit. And maybe danger comes from one of these dwarf planets.

You can see in the models Mike Brown has made that some of these possible dwarf planets could have an orbit of 26.000 years. Strange that the orbit of planet X also seems to have an orbit of 20.000 years, if it would be 26.000 nobody would be surprised I think.

That does remind us at something the anciens -there's little doubt- knew very good: the circle of precession. According to Sitchin it still would take about 70 years or so before disaster happens. Is it a coincidence that it will take about 70 years before true north points at Polaris, the clearest star near the circle of precession? A circle that takes 26.000 years to complete.

And if our real leaders would know about this, they would not tell us. So we have no other choice than to guess.

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