Are we Aliens? Possibly.

a reply to: rukia

Oh boy here we go with fallen angels and nephilim again. Why aren't they still doing this ? Where are the angels now?

originally posted by: Tempter

I've been convinced for a very long time I'm not native to this planet.

I think my run at ATS has ended.

Lordy lord.

Hey!! It's a pleasure to meet you as well! Do you need an aspirin for the pain?

originally posted by: Tempter

I've been convinced for a very long time I'm not native to this planet.

I think my run at ATS has ended.

Lordy lord.

That's nothing. Stick around long enough, and you'll see all sorts of characters. We have (or have had) numerous people that think they're aliens/psychics/vampires/angels/gods/mind control victims/supersoldiers/any other crazy thing you can think of, cult members, NASA engineers, mass murderers (yes, really), and even the occasional actual 'insiders' and public figures.

a reply to: BlackProject

I'd argue depends on who you ask.

If you ask your fellow humans then no we aren't aliens.

Now if you were to ask an intelligent species that traveled from some other place in the Universe then yes we would be aliens.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Don't forget HiddenHand who claimed to be one of the ruling elite bloodline members and made a bunch of really badly failed predictions.

a reply to: BlackProject

Interesting points, and they seem as plausible as anything else I've heard about our origins.

Good thread OP. I have often wondered this as well. Maybe not for the reasons you've listed...But I've wondered If this is why we have different races on the planet? Did different species of aliens get ahold of chimps and then alter them differently? I've never looked into why we have different races..maybe I just like my theory better and don't want to know the boring truth.

a reply to: BlackProject
Interesting thread. If we look at it in the context of what Carl Sagan said:
"We are made of star-stuff.
Our bodies are made of star-stuff.
There are pieces of star within us all."

Or to paraphrase Max Ehrmann "We are the children of the universe," sans the background music. Will the answer be yes? Are we aliens- direct descendants or genetically engineered?

What if the aliens comes back and show proofs that they created us, cite a cosmic patent law that they returned for a mass scale human harvest because business is booming not only in the universe but also in the multiverses, they couldn't keep up with the demands- human flesh and innards as an exotic delicacy, more like a cosmic KFC or McDonalds that random abduction is out of the question, then what?

Do we accept it or rebel and defend Darwinism to the death?

Double post.

Imagine hearing this from the aliens (telepathically):
"We hate to do this to you guys but we're building several, what you call Dysonspheres and this is an additional way for us to fund it. We tried selling your drugs but we all don't get it. Taste good as a spices though. Your cattle are great fertilizers but doesn't taste near... you know what. Your precious metals and gems are nice but you don't have enough... We have here techs that we can barter... and to make it a bit easier on your species, we'll start harvesting what you call the elite scumbags- everyone directly and indirectly connected..."

originally posted by: frayed1
sorry, I fail to see how a reaction to grass and oak tree pollen would protect me from some other, more deadly toxin that I might encounter ....rather, it seems like the pollen attacks an 'unknown intruder', knocking it down so other 'agents' can move in and finish it off.... casting the pollen in the role of a first responder, much like an 'antibody', as it were.....

No, it's the other way round, if you had read the article I linked you'd have a clearer picture, it's explained properly there. I'll try my best: allergies are an immune response. When an allergic person first encountered an allergen (in your case pollen) your body recognized it as a foreign substance that may cause you harm, sent an anitbody (IgE) to attack and recognize the substance. Pollen is harmless but your body did not recognize it as such and from then it goes on 'attack mode' and releases inflammatory chemicals (histamines) which gives you the watery eyes, runny nose etc. So it is a defense mechanism that's evolved to protect us, but doing so with harmless substances such as pollen.

If you read the study I gave you, it explains how the same antibody that attacks harmless stuff (IgE) has actually evolved to protect us from deadly toxins, such as bee and snake venoms (as it produces the same immune response when it encounters them). Unfortunately it overworks with some people like you and goes on an immune response when it's not necessary. I hope it is a bit clearer now.

a reply to: BlackProject

Maybe, God was an astronaut?

Or the best programmer ever..Depends how one looks at it.?

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: BlackProject

Maybe, God was an astronaut?

Or the best programmer ever..Depends how one looks at it.?

Often pondered digitalisation of our world, with films like transcendence depicting the blend between real world and the binary world. However, rather I still cannot fully grasp the idea or the idea to blend between the computer world and ours could never become true.

Does seem like there is something there however, when I get the time I will be reading into this a little more.

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
I had always thought that maybe, just maybe, we started on Mars. Is it possible that Noah's ark loaded us all up and shipped us here to Earth? I don't know but I do not think that humans originated here on Earth.

Now this is something I often wonder about also, the stories of religious past are that of magical events or more realistic scenarios. I have always deemed religious texts as guides books to our past, hidden in plain sight. Noah's ark could have certainly been a craft rather then as its depicted a boat. The whole story seems to enlighten us to the idea that we came from above and maybe how we arrived is how others shall return.

anything's possible.

I believe that aliens are being manipulated by the universe as well, just they are more advanced than us.

They also have better airplanes.

I always thought humans came from mars. And one day earth will be unlivable and we will move to Venus. I don't think the people on mars were as advanced as us. These planets have been here for billions of years. Mars could have been inhabited a billion years ago by a civilisation that only made it to the old west. Look how quick we went from riding horses and drinking dirty water to landing # on mars. Somewhere in that billion years humans could have come and gone several times. Asteroids have been hitting planets for years and the strikes just get further and further apart. The same with super volcano eruptions and Sun flares. It's all a game to see how far we can make it till the next one hits and we get covered up. Aliens are the Smart Ones that realized you got to keep it moving in the universe. They lived on a planet somewhere that didn't have an asteroid strike or a flare for a very long time and they were able to make it very far in their evolution. We might have to start over 10 more times before we make it that far. think about it if we knew the planet was doomed and there was nothing we can do about it. We would launch some type of (dna seeds) towards Venus in the hopes that one day it will be habitable. Then the people of Venus 3 billion years from now will wonder if earth was ever habitable. Lets hope they don't think it was an invisible man that out them there.

we come in peace, jupiter!

a reply to: BlackProject

1. Pigs are susceptible to sun burn. That is one reason why they role in mud.

2. Some people have very strong backs, a lifetime of laziness leads to bad posture, leads to back problems. Could it be better? Sure, but you can also prevent bad backs to an extent.

3. We have adjusted to a 24 hour day. We also adjust to different day lengths. Circadian rythim sees to that. Melatonin levels increase with lack of light to help us sleep and is reduced when light is introduced to tell you to wake. As far as our productiveness when we're sick, I have seen animals unable to do anything but lay down due to illness, but I will say humans seem affected more by illness.

4. The lifespan of compared animals is usually much shorter, so for humans development is spread out. The brain of an infant is more complex than an animal and from infant to toddler learns at a much faster rate than an adult. It is necessary to absorb the information from learning basic knowledge like language, facial expressions, limb control, facial recognition, etc. That stuff seems like pretty easy stuff, but when your a new human knowing literally nothing about the world, that is a huge load of information. Perhaps this is why our development take longer as we are learning more than just standing up and walking. Our language isn't instinctual and we have no genetic memory pass down (that we have discovered or been able to activate at least).

5. Advances. Agreed.

6. We actually did use to act like this. We have evolved since then and no longer rely on our primate instincts for everything (we still do for some).

Now, with all that being said, I do agree with you. We are far too advanced and there are things we do that have no purpose in evolution such as philosophy.

Some stuff to add to your list:
We have a more efficient cooling system than most species (sweat), although horses and pigs also sweat and of course some mammal sweat through there paws. We have pores that cover our entire body minus a few small areas.

While we are not that fastest species on the planet by any means, we do have the most endurance (naturally, not counting the 350 lb fella who eats more than breathes).
If you have been running since birth, the average person can run somewhere around 150 miles before the body shuts down. This is how hunting used to be done. A deer is much faster than a human, but if you can track it well enough, it will constantly need to take breaks until it colapses. Of course, we have become more efficient than having to do this.

Everything you wrote is still evidence to what you are claiming, I just wanted to point out some further information about them.

In the end, I believe you.

a reply to: BlackProject

Sunlight. Some human can stay in sunlight all day.

Back. Our back is similar to most vertebrae, we just choose to walk on hind legs.

Your right about contrast to other species though. We just over consume everything around us.

I think it is very likely that we have Alien DNA in us. We are just now starting to understand DNA, its implications, and the human genome. There is a lot we don't understand. From my understanding, lots of what we have is "junk DNA" which is DNA they don't understand. They call it junk, but it could possibly be alien, or at least part of it. By alien of course, I mean foreign to this planet's natural evolution.

There are many things that make me thin humans are foreign, at least part of our DNA is foreign to this Earth. One of the main reasons is that we have somehow evolved faster than any other species on this planet. Why have WE evolved to such a developed level, but no other creature on Earth has?

I also believe that homo sapiens are not the only hominoids to reach this level of development, and science seems to back this up. From an anthropological perspective, there have been several other species of hominoids that have had close to our level of consciousness and intelligence. Could be that perhaps there were many intelligent hominoids on Earth, but through war or mating only one survived--Us?


What's equally interesting is that we now know that modern man didn't evolve in a straight line. We ARE a combination of several different intelligent hominoids that mated over thousands and thousands of years, and evolved.