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The proof does not say that the conclusion has to be correct, but rather that if you accept the axioms, then the conclusion is correct.
I,as an atheist would genuinely like to see proof of the existence of god.I really would.It would make me ecstatically happy.
Definition 1: x is God-like if and only if x has as essential properties those and only those properties which are positive
Do you have an example that fits x in this sense?
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: TycoonBarnaby
Definition 1: x is God-like if and only if x has as essential properties those and only those properties which are positive
Do you have an example that fits x in this sense?
How about love?
I think it exists.
originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: TycoonBarnaby
Definition 1: x is God-like if and only if x has as essential properties those and only those properties which are positive
Do you have an example that fits x in this sense?
How about love?
I think it exists.
You can think love exists, and you can think it is an example of something that has properties and only those properties that are 'positive', but I would disagree. Therefore, I reject not only at least one axiom, but I reject the definition.
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: TycoonBarnaby
Definition 1: x is God-like if and only if x has as essential properties those and only those properties which are positive
Do you have an example that fits x in this sense?
How about love?
I think it exists.
You can think love exists, and you can think it is an example of something that has properties and only those properties that are 'positive', but I would disagree. Therefore, I reject not only at least one axiom, but I reject the definition.
I am happy that you did not provide reasoning why you disagree that it exists, because it was not my intention to debate that.
I just wanted to know if you believed that it exists and is positive.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: butcherguy
I can give you a lot of examples of where "love" is not always positive a thing; greed, pride, obsession, addiction, etc. Why choose love as an example, anyway? Why not a rock. A rock in your hand positively exists, doesn't it?
originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: TycoonBarnaby
Definition 1: x is God-like if and only if x has as essential properties those and only those properties which are positive
Do you have an example that fits x in this sense?
How about love?
I think it exists.
You can think love exists, and you can think it is an example of something that has properties and only those properties that are 'positive', but I would disagree. Therefore, I reject not only at least one axiom, but I reject the definition.
I am happy that you did not provide reasoning why you disagree that it exists, because it was not my intention to debate that.
I just wanted to know if you believed that it exists and is positive.
This is the problem with bringing in a concept like 'love' to a thread where the OP specifically says it is about formal logic.
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: TycoonBarnaby
Definition 1: x is God-like if and only if x has as essential properties those and only those properties which are positive
Do you have an example that fits x in this sense?
How about love?
I think it exists.
You can think love exists, and you can think it is an example of something that has properties and only those properties that are 'positive', but I would disagree. Therefore, I reject not only at least one axiom, but I reject the definition.
I am happy that you did not provide reasoning why you disagree that it exists, because it was not my intention to debate that.
I just wanted to know if you believed that it exists and is positive.
This is the problem with bringing in a concept like 'love' to a thread where the OP specifically says it is about formal logic.
The OP brought 'God' into the thread at the beginning.
originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
originally posted by: butcherguy
originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: TycoonBarnaby
Definition 1: x is God-like if and only if x has as essential properties those and only those properties which are positive
Do you have an example that fits x in this sense?
How about love?
I think it exists.
You can think love exists, and you can think it is an example of something that has properties and only those properties that are 'positive', but I would disagree. Therefore, I reject not only at least one axiom, but I reject the definition.
I am happy that you did not provide reasoning why you disagree that it exists, because it was not my intention to debate that.
I just wanted to know if you believed that it exists and is positive.
This is the problem with bringing in a concept like 'love' to a thread where the OP specifically says it is about formal logic.
The OP brought 'God' into the thread at the beginning.
Agreed, the premise is flawed from the beginning (though to be fair the OP brought in God-like, there is a difference.)