North Carolina Loses 400 Jobs as PayPal Pulls Facility over ‘Bathroom Bill’

PayPal has canceled its plans to open a new global operations center in Charlotte, following passage of a North Carolina law that prevents cities from creating non-discrimination policies based on gender identity.

The measure also mandates that students in state schools use the bathroom that corresponds with their gender when they were born.

On March 23, North Carolina, in an emergency session, passed the controversial Public Facilities Privacy & Security Act.

fox40.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">North Carolina just traded 400 jobs for the right to discriminate..
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I don't really know enough about this law to comment much, I am looking into weather this law only deals with bathrooms or if it's like so many other laws, could be interpreted to mean allowing discrimination in a wide range or ways. I just know that it seems to be a costly law.

According to The New York Times, the Obama administration is determining whether House Bill 2 makes the state of North Carolina ineligible for “billions of dollars” in federal funding, although some experts[who?] believe this isn't immediately likely.

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A number of companies have publicly announced their opposition to the law, including Red Hat, Dow Chemical, Biogen,[22] Wells Fargo, American Airlines, Lowe's, PayPal, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, IBM, Yelp, and Salesforce.com. On March 29, 2016, an open letter signed by 80 corporate CEOs against House Bill 2 was sent to Governor McCrory.

Some companies have halted or are reconsidering their plans to expand to North Carolina as a result of the passage of House Bill 2. Braeburn Pharmaceuticals is reconsidering their plans to build a US$20 million manufacturing and research facility in Durham County. Lionsgate has relocated at least one of their productions out of the state. A&E Networks announced that they'll no longer film productions in North Carolina, and 21st Century Fox is reconsidering filming future productions in the state. Musical composer Stephen Schwartz will not allow Wicked to be produced in North Carolina.[30] Film director Rob Reiner called for a boycott of North Carolina by the entertainment industry and said he would no longer film in the state.
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very, very costly...
and well, ya know there could be another way a business could address this... especially a business who is planning to build anyways.. just make private bathrooms that are not sex specific. I mean, figure out how bathrooms you employees would need in a day and instead of building one big men's room and one big women's room with six or seven stalls in each, just build the smaller bathrooms separately, now men's no women's. saves jobs, and well, everybody can have more privacy. matter of fact the company I worked for did this, they had several bathrooms spread out through the shop and well, they were used by both sexes.

a reply to: dawnstar
Your link doesn't work, Dawn. Taking this at face value for the moment, I can understand people wanting their privacy in the bathroom, and I like your idea of smaller, unisex bathrooms where feasible. This battle is going to rage on for a while, because most people are stuck in a rigid, legalistic, mindset of the past. It seems some people would go back to segregation, witch-hunts, and stoning people outside the city if they could. "Some" referring to domionists and others who would like to convert the world to a theocracy, and others who just have insecurities about their own sexual identity. Whatever the case, they're meeting resistance, which is a good thing.

It doesn't make any sense that the Gov would sign this bill even if he didn't want men using the women's toilet. Also, OP link not working, here it is:

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Washington (CNN) — North Carolina's governor on Wednesday signed a controversial bill blocking cities from allowing transgender individuals to use public bathrooms for the sex they identify as -- as well as restricting cities from passing nondiscrimination laws more broadly.

House Bill 2, the Public Facilities Privacy & Security Act, puts in place a statewide policy that bans individuals from using public bathrooms that do not correspond to their biological sex. The bill also reserves the right to pass nondiscrimination legislation to the state government, saying state laws preempt any local ordinances.

Pat McCrory, a Republican, signed the bill Wednesday night and tweeted, "Ordinance defied common sense, allowing men to use women's bathroom/locker room for instance. That's why I signed bipartisan bill to stop it."

That was from March 24, 2016. I'm sure he didn't realize the impact of this bill. Why they would include the right to pass nondiscrimination legislation along with a discriminatory measure.......clueless. Unless I am comprehending this completely wrong.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: dawnstar
Your link doesn't work, Dawn. Taking this at face value for the moment, I can understand people wanting their privacy in the bathroom, and like your idea of smaller, unisex bathrooms. This battle is going to rage on for a while, because most people are stuck in a rigid, legalistic, mindset of the past. It seems some people would go back to segregation, witch-hunts, and stoning people outside the city if they could. "Some" referring to domionists and others who would like to convert the world to a theocracy, and others who just have insecurities about their own sexual identity. Whatever the case, they're meeting resistance, which is a good thing.

Because some of us sane folks don't want pedos to decide they identify as a woman today so they can peep on young girls?

is it just my imagination or has there been a push to make what used to be considered abnormal behaviors, even those classified as mental illnesses to make them socially acceptable while making what used to be normal behaviors (being distrustful of government, trying to eat healthy, avoiding the doctor, enjoying sport shooting, etc) socially unacceptable and in some cases classifying them as disorders.

As for where the gender confused have to go potty I'm not terribly concerned.
I don't see this as civil rights issue at all.
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of women don't want biological males in the same bathroom.

Things are picking up, that is in addition to the 100 jobs lost when a production company decided that it would be better to do a pilot and possible series in Canada. Business are starting to wake up and decide to pull out of states that would rather discriminate than stick around, and that is what needs to happen. The economy of North Carolina is going to start suffering hard, and they are going to be hard press to get businesses to go back to their state, especially big global companies. Something tells me that the ice berg is about to be set adrift to sink that skiff made of paper.

a reply to: dawnstar

The state of NC now has religious freedom to discriminate for any reason that is not federally protected.

And has taken away the right of individual cities/counties to enact their own non-discrimination policies.

LGBT can now be refused employment, housing, medical care, etc etc.

BS!!!

It is already against federal law...

That's probably why they also lost the NCAA last night.

The Lord of the Gay's helped him make that shot!

a reply to: Klassified

I can't seem to edit it either for some reason. But well, here is the pay pal announcement while I spend time trying to figure out why I can't seem to edit it:

Two weeks ago, PayPal announced plans to open a new global operations center in Charlotte and employ over 400 people in skilled jobs. In the short time since then, legislation has been abruptly enacted by the State of North Carolina that invalidates protections of the rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender citizens and denies these members of our community equal rights under the law.

The new law perpetuates discrimination and it violates the values and principles that are at the core of PayPal’s mission and culture. As a result, PayPal will not move forward with our planned expansion into Charlotte.

This decision reflects PayPal’s deepest values and our strong belief that every person has the right to be treated equally, and with dignity and respect. These principles of fairness, inclusion and equality are at the heart of everything we seek to achieve and stand for as a company. And they compel us to take action to oppose discrimination.

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wonder what about those who are biologically both sexes? usually the parents decide early on what sex they are, but well... they are still biologically both sexes, they just had the surgeries necessary to appear to be one or the other... much like some of the gay community....
they are either neither male or female, or they are both...

originally posted by: Sargeras
BS!!!

It is already against federal law...

No it's not.

That only applies to Federal employees.

a reply to: Sargeras

but what about the lesbian women peeking at your bod???
what's the difference?
the only way to fully protect yourself from those pervs is to do as I suggest and have private bathrooms single occupancy bathrooms, and they could be open to all sexes, and even the pervs...

originally posted by: StoutBroux
It doesn't make any sense that the Gov would sign this bill even if he didn't want men using the women's toilet. Also, OP link not working, here it is:

fox40.com...

Washington (CNN) — North Carolina's governor on Wednesday signed a controversial bill blocking cities from allowing transgender individuals to use public bathrooms for the sex they identify as -- as well as restricting cities from passing nondiscrimination laws more broadly.

House Bill 2, the Public Facilities Privacy & Security Act, puts in place a statewide policy that bans individuals from using public bathrooms that do not correspond to their biological sex. The bill also reserves the right to pass nondiscrimination legislation to the state government, saying state laws preempt any local ordinances.

Pat McCrory, a Republican, signed the bill Wednesday night and tweeted, "Ordinance defied common sense, allowing men to use women's bathroom/locker room for instance. That's why I signed bipartisan bill to stop it."

I'm sure he didn't realize the impact of this bill. Why they would include the right to pass nondiscrimination legislation along with a discriminatory measure.......clueless. Unless I am comprehending this completely wrong.

He knew exactly what this bill is and what happened in Indiana.

This bill was shoved through in a special session.

There's a worse one now sitting on the desk of the governor of Mississippi.

originally posted by: Sargeras


Because some of us sane folks don't want pedos to decide they identify as a woman today so they can peep on young girls?

Good thing we're making people like Buck Angel, Ian Harvie, and Katastrophe, are all using the women's restroom like they should be then. Certainly other women and little girls won't have an issue with these "women" using the same bathroom will they?

The three people listed above are all women who transitioned to men, and as you can see from their pictures, look nothing like women.

Would you feel comfortable with your little girl using the restroom with any of them, particularly Buck Angel?

a reply to: Annee

"LGBT can now be refused employment, housing, medical care, etc etc."

You can't openly discriminate in NC....

This is a Status Quo law making it so the genitalia you have at birth corresponds to the bathroom you use. period

I don't even really agree with this law but also, transsexuals aren't by default homosexual or even bisexual.

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Annee

"LGBT can now be refused employment, housing, medical care, etc etc."

You can't openly discriminate in NC....

This is a Status Quo law making it so the genitalia you have at birth corresponds to the bathroom you use. period

I don't even really agree with this law but also, transsexuals aren't by default homosexual or even bisexual.

Do you know what the acronym LGBT means? Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgendered

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Annee

"LGBT can now be refused employment, housing, medical care, etc etc."

You can't openly discriminate in NC....

This is a Status Quo law making it so the genitalia you have at birth corresponds to the bathroom you use. period

I don't even really agree with this law but also, transsexuals aren't by default homosexual or even bisexual.

Yes, absolutely you can discriminate fully against all LGBT now in NC.

There is only federal protection for federal employees.

LGBT have not been included Federally as a protected class, unless they are a federal employee.

There was a post operative trans being interviewed on CNN the other day, complaining about how she now had to use men's bathrooms.
She (previously a he) looked far more feminine than I do, her with her dress and fairly heavily made up face. So how are people to even know that she used to be a man? Even her Adam's apple was diminished to almost non existent.
Why would someone who looks more like a woman than some other women, not just use the woman's bathroom regardless of the law? No one would know, there's doors on the stalls, and she sits to pee.

originally posted by: JDmOKI
This is a Status Quo law making it so the genitalia you have at birth corresponds to the bathroom you use. period

Refer back a post.

And we'll ask the same of you.

Would you feel comfortable sending your 6 year old girl in the bathroom with Buck Angel?