Living cells ‘hacked’ and hijacked by MIT the universe is a Computer

This is just more evidence that we live in a computer simulation that can be hacked just like anything else that uses computer programming. I think the universe itself can be programmed and hacked into and you could change the laws of physics. This is because the universe is information at a fundamental level. Like MIT Professor Seth Lloyd said, the universe doesn't act like a quantum computer, the universe is a quantum computer or a simulation being ran on a quantum computer.

Scientists at MIT have proven they can ‘hack’ living cells and programme them to carry out new tasks.

In the same way that computer language tells a machine how to operate, researchers have shown it is possible to write DNA ‘code’ and insert it into bacteria to alter how they function.

They hope that one day cells could be programmed so they could release cancer drugs on encountering a tumour, or allow plants to fight back with insecticide when a pest comes near.

“It is literally a programming language for bacteria,” said Christopher Voigt, an MIT professor of biological engineering.

“You use a text-based language, just like you’re programming a computer. Then you take that text and you compile it and it turns it into a DNA sequence that you put into the cell, and the circuit runs inside the cell.”

“You could be a student in high school and go onto the Web-based server and type out the program you want, and it spits back the DNA sequence.

“Unit now it would take years to build these types of circuits. Now you just hit the button and immediately get a DNA sequence to test.”

The language is based on Verilog, which is commonly used to program computer chips.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

You combine this with Crispr, which gives you the simply edit genes and the skies the limit. You can program an entire new species. This will be a boon for healthcare though because like the article said, you could program cells to fight cancer and other diseases and we will be able to edit these things out all together.

a reply to: neoholographic

Sorry, but he's on about biological hacking. Also known as biological manipulation on a cellular level.

Has nothing to do with computers. The hacking term was used as an analogy.

Still, you get a star and flag from me for some very interesting science.

a reply to: TerryDon79

You said:

Has nothing to do with computers.

Of course it does. It has everything to do with it. The DNA Code is software that carries instructions. With the right computer language we can hack into this computation. This is why he made the point that this could be done by a High School student that knows how to program.

For 15 years bioengineers have been tinkering with genetic code to alter cells manually, but it is laborious and involves a great deal of trial and error.

But users of the new programming language need no special knowledge of genetic engineering. “You could be completely naive as to how any of it works. That’s what’s really different about this,” added Prof Voigt .

“You could be a student in high school and go onto the Web-based server and type out the program you want, and it spits back the DNA sequence.

This isn't just about biology. They have been trying to tinker with the genetic code to alter cells but they couldn't until they came up with a new programming language. Why is that? It's because DNA is a program and like any program it can be hacked into.

a reply to: neoholographic

You're looking at it side ways lol.

Genetics can be understood by us and possibly programmed by us by using computer code we made to understand it.

a reply to: TerryDon79

DNA is a coded language.. You hack it same way as hacking a computer..
Think a little harder.. Just because it's not just ones and zeroes and just because it's not "electric" does not have any bearing on whether this is all a simulation.

Of course I see no reason to see the universe is coded or based on information over matter , and think that means simulation. It doesn't matter in any way "simulation or "real".

DNA is a code.
You can read write and execute programs that change physical reality..

Don't worry so much about the medium of information being "physical" proteins or being electromagnetic on/off switches.

DNA is a better computer than what we use. Seeing as science wants the universe to have come from nothing naturally.. DNA is probably a symptom of deeper patterns that will be hacked in the future.

Just wait till you're vaccinated to have Mormon beliefs.. Lol.. Just takes a virus..
But yea so far this is hacking biology not physics, but like I said the pattern emerged so there is a deeper pattern like learning Latin compared to Spanish.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: neoholographic

You're looking at it side ways lol.

Genetics can be understood by us and possibly programmed by us by using computer code we made to understand it.

Again, all you have to do is read the article.

DNA is already running it's own program. They have just written a computer language to hack into or hijack a program that's already running. The computer language written isn't creating the DNA Code, it's already running so the language just allows us to alter the code and it doesn't take knowledge of genetic engineering to do this just knowledge of computer programming.

No real surprise...
just evidence things are designed or "created"
Get use to hearing things like this...
Science is about to change forever...
as it bows down to the creator...

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: neoholographic

You're looking at it side ways lol.

Genetics can be understood by us and possibly programmed by us by using computer code we made to understand it.

it's already running so the language just allows us to alter the code and it doesn't take knowledge of genetic engineering to do this just knowledge of computer programming.

Exactly..

Type words on a screen but that's just the instructions..
You still have to put the DNA you translated from ur code into a virus and infect a cell to get the program to execute.

It's only a few more level of understanding until all hell breaks lose.. Mommy I want a unicorn with zebra stripes..

DNA is built from amino acids; CTAG - these are actually read as +charge, -charge, magnetic field, no magnetic field. So DNA is basically magnetic tape. Then blocks of three amino acids form codons, and these form a codon table used to encode the other amino acids: en.wikipedia.org...

These in turn can be either acidic, polar, basic or nonpolar, and there are around 30 of these.

Using genetic manipulation, we can decode DNA and break it down into chromosomes and genes, all the way back down to the actual codons themselves. Then genes can be modified, deleted or added. Whole books have been written on all the different classes of proteins, enzymes and amino acids.

All of this is done using computer systems. It's quite possible to convert an ASCII string of DNA or RNA codons straight into actual genetic code using specialized chemical assembly systems. Then those genes can be inserted directly into cells.

Let us hope nobody will use it as an weapon, i guess?

originally posted by: stormcell
DNA is built from amino acids; CTAG - these are actually read as +charge, -charge, magnetic field, no magnetic field. So DNA is basically magnetic tape. Then blocks of three amino acids form codons, and these form a codon table used to encode the other amino acids: en.wikipedia.org...

These in turn can be either acidic, polar, basic or nonpolar, and there are around 30 of these.

Using genetic manipulation, we can decode DNA and break it down into chromosomes and genes, all the way back down to the actual codons themselves. Then genes can be modified, deleted or added. Whole books have been written on all the different classes of proteins, enzymes and amino acids.

All of this is done using computer systems. It's quite possible to convert an ASCII string of DNA or RNA codons straight into actual genetic code using specialized chemical assembly systems. Then those genes can be inserted directly into cells.

You made a little mistake here - DNA is not built from amino acids - it's built from monomeric nucleotides. The CTAG (cytosine, thymine, adenine, guanine, and uracil which is in RNA only) you referred to are the purine or pyrimidine nucleobases. So DNA or RNA are referred to as nucleic acids which are actually polymers of nucleotides. Essentially, DNA passes the information or code to RNA which carries out amino acid synthesis which ultimately form proteins.

This website has some nice animations of how it all works:
www.pbs.org...

originally posted by: Reverbs

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: neoholographic

You're looking at it side ways lol.

Genetics can be understood by us and possibly programmed by us by using computer code we made to understand it.

it's already running so the language just allows us to alter the code and it doesn't take knowledge of genetic engineering to do this just knowledge of computer programming.

Exactly..

Type words on a screen but that's just the instructions..
You still have to put the DNA you translated from ur code into a virus and infect a cell to get the program to execute.

It's only a few more level of understanding until all hell breaks lose.. Mommy I want a unicorn with zebra stripes..

That's how I read it,
I think the very first sentence could even infer much more in the way it is written, all depending.
"Scientists at MIT have proven they can ‘hack’ living cells and programme them to carry out new tasks."

The, 'new task' bit sounds specific, while it's not so clear that there is a computer automaton doing the squidgy bits, though I suppose any kind of interface might not have results as intended.

Quantum computer is an over exemplified term.

It's simply a processing unit that deals in anything more than binary functions of variables. If the system is able to express trinary variable functions, then it's a Quantum computer. 4 functions? Quantum computer. 1,000,000 functions? Quantum computer.

The only systems that AREN'T Quantum Computers are single function and binary functioning computers. Your brain is easily a Quantum computer. It's not a hard stretch to picture the systems of the Earth or Universe transpositioning more than binary function, so even if it's not a simulation, it will still most definitely be a Quantum Computer if it was, because the application of binary function is clearly too small for the scope of our laws of physics and nature.

It's mostly a buzzword topic because the only thing that's clear is were not in a simulation of Windows 10, so this suggests slightly more evidence we could be in a Quantum Computer.

a reply to: smurfy

Make bacteria hungry for pesticides or fertilizers for instance.. Give them a behavior to collect on the surface of water, maybe get them to use photosynthesis and want to be in better sunlight but also dive to the bottom over time and back up... Coded to hold in them and maybe even metabolize dangerous chemicals into other forms.. Certain bacteria are already resistant to bacteria killers (antibiotics) you could make them resistant or even like pesticides or fertilizers..

I bet you could program photosynthesis bacteria that have a super high metabolism so that they need even more carbon dioxide than normal, excreting even more oxygen for us..



Little scrubby buddies..

a reply to: neoholographic

I'm learning a lot following this thread. S & F OP, happy I stumbled into here

originally posted by: Reverbs
a reply to: smurfy

Make bacteria hungry for pesticides or fertilizers for instance.. Give them a behavior to collect on the surface of water, maybe get them to use photosynthesis and want to be in better sunlight but also dive to the bottom over time and back up... Coded to hold in them and maybe even metabolize dangerous chemicals into other forms.. Certain bacteria are already resistant to bacteria killers (antibiotics) you could make them resistant or even like pesticides or fertilizers..

I bet you could program photosynthesis bacteria that have a super high metabolism so that they need even more carbon dioxide than normal, excreting even more oxygen for us..

Little scrubby buddies..

Yes all sorts of things, but since I have a special interest in Fragile X syndrome, and that MIT have a ongoing genetic approach programme on that, blocking group 1 metabotropic glutamate receptors (mGluR), a set of chemical messenger receptors involved in cell signaling, with a reported succes rate while elsewhere, similar tests were not so good or obtuse. So for the OP, this is news to me in the sense that, (1) other researchers I know are using a similar tack, (2) the results are differing.

originally posted by: neoholographic
This will be a boon for healthcare though because like the article said, you could program cells to fight cancer and other diseases and we will be able to edit these things out all together.

It also means you could program whole new forms of disease, cancers, etc. Complete with replication, defenses against possible cures or maybe even morphing ability to keep it from being easily detected.

Like most things it's always easier to destroy something than it is to build something so I imagine we'll see the down side of this faster than the up side of it. But you're right in it being a boom for healthcare. Some smart person will no doubt be coming up with new sicknesses and then profiting off of it's cure right after it's released into the wild.

The language is based on Verilog, which is commonly used to program computer chips.

I'm not too familiar with Verilog, but if it's like any other programming language, there's probably ample opportunity to create semantic errors in the code.

What happens when your DNA code goes into an infinite loop?

-dex

originally posted by: DexterRiley

The language is based on Verilog, which is commonly used to program computer chips.

I'm not too familiar with Verilog, but if it's like any other programming language, there's probably ample opportunity to create semantic errors in the code.

What happens when your DNA code goes into an infinite loop?

-dex

Infinite loop... Hmm, how about.....

Immortality?

DNA is a blueprint used by engineers, the engineers which are our cells. I wouldn't really compare it with a programming language or the assembly instructions read by a CPU. If the engineers doesn't know what to do with the instructions in the blueprint then no body will be formed, so I would say that the engineers themselves has lots of knowledge that is used together with the blueprint to form our bodies. That the DNA itself doesn't contain the whole recipe.