Trump call to punish women for abortions

a reply to: CrazyWater

One out of three women living in the U.S. has had an abortion...crunch the numbers folks. Complex social issues such as this should not be left to the elitist few.

Let me make these things clear: abortion for rape and incest rape I am not against. Though I suspect some women will cry rape just so they can have their abortion.

I don't care if the husband says you can't afford another baby. He stuck it in you, he raises that child. A child is not just a responsibility, he or she is Alive. If he wants to be an idiot and say abortion, I'd suggest he is a sociopath.

It's not about men knowing everything, this is something a vast majority of mothers actually believe. Women look at their child then imagine the cutting of their beautiful child's spine and Shudder.

But all the excuses in the world will not change what it is : abortion is premeditated murder.

As if you assume I don't understand the complexities of life. Do you all assume you are the only ones who have hard times? When we didn't have enough money, my wife got pregnant. So I Started My Own Business so I could control how much I make.

It's called overcoming, adapting, loving your family, your children, other people, and respecting your conscience.

If money and future make you fear into killing your child, that's because you are still a child.

58 million murders since Roe vs. Wade. And only 1% account for "rape". We live in a perverted society that still doesn't UNDERSTAND that "sex" is for REPRODUCTION!

Between that and LGBT, our species will be extinct in 100 years. lmfao We sure are helping tptb achieve their goal of population reduction. And that's NO JOKE.

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: 3danimator2014

You are a liar and a manipulator. How do you live with yourself? Quote me on those words, then you'll have a stance.

You are arguing with a straw man you created. At least it isn't me you are arguing with. Only makes you yourself look a little nutty when you direct your arguments at me that have nothing to do with me.

There is only one person here who looks nutty mate. And it ain't me. First off..its debatable whether foetuses are babies and have conscious thought at that age. Secondly, sometimes aborting is the lesser of the two evils. If as the person above me said the family cannot afford another baby, or the baby is going to be handicapped and the people live in the US which means bringing up a heavily disabled child will cost them way too much? There are countless scenarios where an abortion is the lesser of the two evils. Far better than a child having a sh*tty childhood or life

And for you to sit there and say things like "keep your legs closed then" (i know you didn't write that exact sentence) is unbelievably low. You may THINK that you are an understanding and loving and caring person because you shout about the rights of unborn babies...but you are no such thing. If you could get you head out of your a** for a second look at the bigger picture, maybe you would be what you like to think you are.

Oh...and what's the straw man? What I stated happens and is relevant.

No woman skips into an abortion clinic happy about what they are about to do.

originally posted by: JuJuBee
We live in a perverted society that still doesn't UNDERSTAND that "sex" is for REPRODUCTION!
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You wife/girlfriend is a lucky lucky girl!

a reply to: JuJuBee

JuJuBee, logically, between people having abortions and the LGBT, in a hundred years, those that love life and respect life and their children will be a vast majority. The logical conclusion, when considered, to those cultures is eventually the implosion of said cultures via their own ideals.

Except, a lot of sympathizers join the crowd because they want to be nice. Respectful, yes, but nice? Nah, not doing it. I don't respond well to children with the murder and manipulation mentality.

a reply to: UnBreakable

I don't think any of them want the job, I don't think anyone really wanted the last time around, so well, they did what the white people always do when there's a crap job to do, they gave it to the black guy (sorry, I know how racist that sounds, but well, I also believe that many of the elite are still quite racist at heart...)
let's face it, being president isn't any fun unless there's a crapload of money that you can pass around, and well, we don't have that giant storehouse of money called social security trust fund anymore, it's already been passed around and the future presidents are faced with making good on all those IOU's that are not only there, but all over the world!!! making debt is fun!!! paying it back is hell!

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: JuJuBee

JuJuBee, logically, between people having abortions and the LGBT, in a hundred years, those that love life and respect life and their children will be a vast majority. The logical conclusion, when considered, to those cultures is eventually the implosion of said cultures via their own ideals.

Except, a lot of sympathizers join the crowd because they want to be nice. Respectful, yes, but nice? Nah, not doing it. I don't respond well to children with the murder and manipulation mentality.

And what say you about the crappy existence they have once they are born? Mothers not wanting them, extreme poverty, extreme disabilities, no mother because see dies in childbirth etc...

What do you say to those kids? "Sorry! Themz the rules!"?

Isn't it true that a President (of the USA) can't make Abortion legal or illegal? That capability falls under the Supreme Court doesn't it...or maybe Congress?

a reply to: 3danimator2014

You are indeed a child. Go to your local NICU. Come back and tell me that "fetuses" don't feel.

Never watched an abortion, have you? Try it. Tell yourself that child that is spasming isn't feeling. Oh wait, they cut the spinal cord now. Gotta hide the reality if possible.

I've lived more than you in my 32 than you have in your 40. If only age meant something anymore. And it's easy to see, because your standards will dictate your level of real, palatable experience.

Anyone who puts an adult life over a baby life is a murderer.

Everyone knows the baby has their whole life ahead, a chance, and the adults have had life.

If you saw a soldier in a war zone run for his life leaving behind a pregnant woman, what would you say about that man?

Consider the whole picture.

Defending murderers is not defending women; it is degrading women. A woman is as much a protector as a man, but society wants women to be allowed to murder. Women, ask yourselves if that makes you equal or does it reduce your level of humanity?

a reply to: carewemust

Yes, that's true. But Trump thinks he will be King and can ban abortion with the wave of his wand... Trump has a LOT of crazy ideas about what it means to be president... He doesn't have a clue!

a reply to: InTheLight

There were 288 state abortion restrictions passed between 2011 and 2015. Legal or not, women will get abortions. A man Trump's age should know that.

a reply to: 3danimator2014

So you want to murder to protect them! I see! Great people come from humble beginnings, most people have to suffer, you're not ending suffering, you're making sure the feel the whole wrath of the world by killing them! How hypocritical!

Momma allowed to kill now because she won't overcome for her child? INANE.

originally posted by: carewemust
Isn't it true that a President (of the USA) can't make Abortion legal or illegal? That capability falls under the Supreme Court doesn't it...or maybe Congress?

Again, a few elitists deciding what is best for all of society.

a reply to: 3danimator2014

as far as I am concerned, if they can't sit down and explain to a young child why that child has to take the responsibility of keeping their younger siblings out of trouble (sometimes, a pregnant mom just can't life the weight of those LIVING children) till daddy gets home from work, or maybe longer since some dad's just don't seem to want to do much after work.. instead of having their own childhood adventures..... if they can't explain to them that they have to stay out of school for the next few days because well, mommy had to quit work and there's not as much money and we have to wait till payday to buy that extra inhaler of other medications that the school needs on store just in case.... or if they can't sit down and explain to the child why mommy might not be around much longer because she might die trying to give birth to their brother or sister, well... they might want to rethink their position a tad....

and if they aren't willing to live in a marriage that is devoid or sexual intercourse, well, then they should really shut the heck up!! you can't really tell women to not have sex and then bulk at the idea when they come to you and tell you they just don't want to have sex anymore because well, three, or four, or five, or six kids is quite enough thank you!!!
and no birth control method is guarenteed to work 100% of the time!

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Putting words in Trump's mouth?

He never said any of those things. Say something of value.

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: carewemust
Isn't it true that a President (of the USA) can't make Abortion legal or illegal? That capability falls under the Supreme Court doesn't it...or maybe Congress?

Again, a few elitists deciding what is best for all of society.

www.prochoiceamerica.org...://ca.search.yahoo.com/

Not elitist.

His opinion on abortion doesn't mean he thinks he'll not take the proper legal actions.

Why are so many here just making things up?

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: 3danimator2014

So you want to murder to protect them! I see! Great people come from humble beginnings, most people have to suffer, you're not ending suffering, you're making sure the feel the whole wrath of the world by killing them! How hypocritical!

Momma allowed to kill now because she won't overcome for her child? INANE.

Its not murder mate. But I know is anti abortionists number one trick. To use that word as much as you can.

And thank you for not addressing any of my points. Just keep getting hysterical...have fun.

Our conversation is over

originally posted by: muse7
Ted Cruz will get the vote of the people that genuinely believe abortion is wrong because of their religion

Trump will get the vote of men who just want to control women

And Hillary or Bernie will get the majority of votes from rational Americans who have enough of an intellect to understand what's happening right now.