2nd Federal Judge Grants Legal Discovery into Clinton's Use of Private Server

a reply to: jimmyx

evidence is evidence.

White House Approved 'Video Caused Benghazi Attack' Fraud

DOJ court documents in Benghazi suspect case put video narrative to rest?

Hillary’s Video Claim Officially Proven to Be Deliberate Lie

originally posted by: jimmyx
by the way...has anyone looked into republicans that are currently serving in the federal government, and who have security clearances, if they use private e-mail servers?....yup thought so....

Yup, the old "Bush did it!" meme to justify one's transgressions. Got me there.

i love the clinton supporter trying to say she did nothing wrong when the reality is so much worst then he/she can even fathom. A personal server with top secret information. First off this isnt a partisan issue its an issue every person with a security clearance has to adhear to. The reality of her getting off on this will send waves through the IT community that works with the government and they know it. Alot of people will simply quit and get a job with a corp. The government know Its IT department will be gutted if she gets off. At the very lest she should be barred from every obtaining a security clearance ever again which would end her presidential bid. At the extreme end which will never happen she should stand trial for treason and her pacs audited to make sure she wasn't giving away government secrets for money to foreign leaders

originally posted by: digital01anarchy
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At the extreme end which will never happen she should stand trial for treason and her pacs audited to make sure she wasn't giving away government secrets for money to foreign leaders

You hit the nail on the head with that part. (and the rest but...)

I can not believe that there is not more outrage about a Secretary of State receiving large donations from foreign governments to her family's charitable foundation.

That is an astonishing conflict of interest and could lead to all kinds of corruption. If you put this together with her not being careful with classified information....

How is she able to run for president? How is she not in jail?

Foreign governments and individuals are prohibited from giving money to U.S. political candidates, to prevent outside influence over national leaders. But the foundation has given donors a way to potentially gain favor with the Clintons outside the traditional political limits.

Foreign governments gave millions to foundation while Clinton was at State Dept.

All you folks that continue to back Hillary Clinton should read this Washington Post article: Lin k
The Washington Post is not a conservative newspaper.
They are the ones that nailed Nixon.
Read the article, it is fresh... from 3-27-16.
The tide is turning when the WP prints stuff like this.

originally posted by: butcherguy
All you folks that continue to back Hillary Clinton should read this Washington Post article: Lin k
The Washington Post is not a conservative newspaper.
They are the ones that nailed Nixon.
Read the article, it is fresh... from 3-27-16.
The tide is turning when the WP prints stuff like this.

Cool.

Now from the article, we know the private system was premeditated.

On Jan. 13, 2009, a longtime aide to Bill Clinton registered a private email domain for Hillary Clinton, clintonemail.com, that would allow her to send and receive email through the server.

Eight days later, she was sworn in as secretary of state.

and during her 2008 campaign ......

during her own presidential campaign, Clinton had said that if elected, “we will adopt a presumption of openness and Freedom of Information Act requests and urge agencies to release information quickly.”

^^^^^^ yet it took numerous court orders to get those emails released.
and she didn't turn over anything until long *after* she quit as SoS.

a reply to: butcherguy

Thank you for that!
That is the most comprehensive overview I have read.

And once again... how is she not already in jail?

Look at this irony....

Her first known BlackBerry communication through the basement server came on Jan. 28, 2009, when Clinton exchanged notes with Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, then chief of the U.S. Central Command, according to a State Department spokeswoman. It has not been released.

and in other news the glass ceiling has been swapped out with a newer material that makes it much easier for Hillary to clean...


She is going to face charges and the longer this drags out the worse democrats are going to be in the next election cycle. Right now democrats are doing nothing more than rearranging deck chairs on the titanic while stating an iceberg cannot sink the ship because no ship has ever been sunk by lettuce.

a reply to: xuenchen

Yes, a lot of interesting stuff in the article:

“Any unclassified Blackberry is highly vulnerable in any setting to remotely and covertly monitoring conversations, retrieving e-mails, and exploiting calendars.” 

Nine days later, Clinton told Boswell that she had read his memo and “gets it,” according to an email sent by a senior diplomatic security official. “Her attention was drawn to the sentence that indicates (Diplomatic Security) have intelligence concerning this vulnerability during her recent trip to Asia,” the email said. 

But Clinton kept using her private BlackBerry — and the basement server.

Am I reading this portion of the article correctly?
Did he have reason to suspect that her Blackberry was compromised while she was visiting China?

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: MystikMushroom

How can she be eligible for security clearances now?

Obama will give her one by executive order.

Or alternatively, Hillary will claim she has never seen
anything classified, and does not need a security clearance
for POTUS. She will carry an unsecured Blackberry, and
wear carrot colored pantsuits, and no one can know or should care.

/sarcasm


Mad Max coming to a state near you
God help us all...

hillary supporters will always support her even if she is convicted and sent to prison, they will say she is innocent and a victim of a "vast right wing conspiracy"

It would be nothing new for this administration / Democrats considering its already happened -

The admiral in charge of Navy intelligence has not been allowed to see military secrets for years

For more than two years, the Navy’s intelligence chief has been stuck with a major handicap: He’s not allowed to know any secrets.

Vice Adm. Ted “Twig” Branch has been barred from reading, seeing or hearing classified information since November 2013, when the Navy learned from the Justice Department that his name had surfaced in a giant corruption investigation involving a foreign defense contractor and scores of Navy personnel.

Worried that Branch was on the verge of being indicted, Navy leaders suspended his access to classified materials. They did the same to one of his deputies, Rear Adm. Bruce F. Loveless, the Navy’s director of intelligence operations.

More than 800 days later, neither Branch nor Loveless has been charged. But neither has been cleared, either. Their access to classified information remains blocked.

Although the Navy transferred Loveless to a slightly less sensitive post, it kept Branch in charge of its intelligence division. That has resulted in an awkward arrangement, akin to sending a warship into battle with its skipper stuck onshore.

Click link for remainder of article...


Its almost as if Democrats have turned into some entity with foreign allegiance dedicated to undermining the United States.

a reply to: butcherguy
Excellent linked article!

her husband’s New York-based Clinton Foundation — notes that mixed government and family business, the emails show. Others involved classified matters. State Department and Intelligence Community officials have determined that 2,093 email chains contained classified information. Most of the classified emails have been labeled as “confidential,” the lowest level of classification. Clinton herself authored 104 emails that contained classified material, a Post analysis later found.

So, she mixed family & gov't business, which Hillary has done many times in the past. Shillary also sent and received classified information on her private server, an allegation she denied or reverted to the standard "I don't recall". Sounds like presidential material to me.

a reply to: butcherguy

One notable email was sent in August 2011. Stephen Mull, then serving as the department’s executive secretary, emailed Abedin, Mills and Kennedy about getting a government-issued BlackBerry linked to a government server for Clinton. “We are working to provide the Secretary per her request a Department issued Blackberry to replace personal unit, which is malfunctioning (possibly because of her personal email server is down.) We will prepare two version for her to use — one with an operating State Department email account (which would mask her identity, but which would also be subject to FOIA requests).”

Abedin responded decisively.
“Steve — let’s discuss the state blackberry. doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.”

This article shows that they repeatedly offered her options that were more secure, and told her they were more secure, and she repeatedly declined.

It looks like a clear attempt to skirt the Freedom of Information Act laws.

a reply to: Boscowashisnamo

In the blurb that you included, they make mention that she authored 104 emails that contained classified info. We kept hearing from the Hillary supporters that she never authored any emails that contained classified info.
Since this is from the Washington Post, I wonder how they will handle that? They can't keep screaming "FOX NEWS? They lie!" any more.

These two articles carry essentially the same title:

As Long as Hillary Clinton Risks FBI Indictment, Bernie Sanders Is the Real Front-Runner

Huffington Post

In order to understand why Bernie Sanders is the true Democratic front-runner, and why Hillary Clinton should concede the nomination to Sanders, take a closer look at the FBI’s email investigation.

Democrats are in denial about the election: As long as Hillary Clinton risks FBI indictment, Bernie Sanders is the real front runner

Salon.com

In order to understand why Bernie Sanders is the true Democratic front-runner, and why Hillary Clinton should concede the nomination to Sanders, take a closer look at the FBI’s email investigation. Few people know more about the FBI probe than Jason Leopold, and his latest piece in Vice explains the potential repercussions of this ongoing saga.

Both link to a Vice article.....

FBI Reveals New Details About Its Probe Into Hillary Clinton's Use of Private Email Server

The FBI submitted a classified declaration to a federal court judge late Friday explaining details about the bureau's "pending investigation" into the use of a private email server by Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton. The declaration addresses why the FBI can't publicly release any records about its probe in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed by VICE News. In a separate public declaration, David Hardy, the chief of the FBI's FOIA office, said there are a number of documents exchanged between the FBI and the State Department relating to the FBI's ongoing investigation of Clinton's use of a private email server, which stored all of the official government emails Clinton sent and received during her tenure as Secretary of State. But the FBI, which consulted with attorneys within its Office of General Counsel "who are providing legal support to the pending investigation," cannot divulge any of them without "adversely affecting" the integrity of its investigation. Some of the documents at issue concern "server equipment and related devices obtained from former Secretary Clinton," Hardy said. The documents "consist of memoranda from the FBI to the Department of State regarding evidence. The purpose of these communications with the Department of State was to solicit assistance in furtherance of the FBI's investigation." VICE News sought a wide-range of records from the FBI last December related to Clinton's private email server. Specifically, we asked the FBI for any emails and other documents retrieved from her server, thumb drive, and any other electronic equipment that has not been publicly disclosed; any correspondence and other documents between the FBI and Clinton or her representatives; correspondence between the FBI and the State Department about Clinton's server; and any documents memorializing authorizations granted to the FBI to disclose to the media what the bureau seized from her server. In his declaration, Hardy said the FBI does not have any documents showing that the bureau communicated with Clinton or her aides nor does the FBI have any records about disclosures to the media. The FBI has asked US District Court Judge Randolph Moss to dismiss VICE News' FOIA lawsuit on grounds that the documents it does have about Clinton's private email server are located in files pertaining to a pending investigation that is exempt from disclosure because their release would interfere with active law enforcement proceedings.

The interesting part for me is that these stories are on liberal sites!

I truly believe that something is blowing in the wind, and it is not good news for Hillary Clinton!

Here is the important part that these sites are saying:

and why Hillary Clinton should concede the nomination to Sanders

originally posted by: jimmyx
by the way...has anyone looked into republicans that are currently serving in the federal government, and who have security clearances, if they use private e-mail servers?....yup thought so....

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

So you are saying that anyone accused of a crime should not be investigated until every single person who may have committed a similar crime is investigated as well?

Nice rationalization.... kind of wonkers in the logic department though.

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: xuenchen

Yes, a lot of interesting stuff in the article:

“Any unclassified Blackberry is highly vulnerable in any setting to remotely and covertly monitoring conversations, retrieving e-mails, and exploiting calendars.” 

Nine days later, Clinton told Boswell that she had read his memo and “gets it,” according to an email sent by a senior diplomatic security official. “Her attention was drawn to the sentence that indicates (Diplomatic Security) have intelligence concerning this vulnerability during her recent trip to Asia,” the email said. 

But Clinton kept using her private BlackBerry — and the basement server.

Am I reading this portion of the article correctly?
Did he have reason to suspect that her Blackberry was compromised while she was visiting China?

ANytime you visit another country you are being violated electronically these days. You dont bring anything with you that can be compromised period. get a burner phone when you visit another country and NEVER save passwords or use public wi fi.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: xuenchen

Yes, a lot of interesting stuff in the article:

“Any unclassified Blackberry is highly vulnerable in any setting to remotely and covertly monitoring conversations, retrieving e-mails, and exploiting calendars.” 

Nine days later, Clinton told Boswell that she had read his memo and “gets it,” according to an email sent by a senior diplomatic security official. “Her attention was drawn to the sentence that indicates (Diplomatic Security) have intelligence concerning this vulnerability during her recent trip to Asia,” the email said. 

But Clinton kept using her private BlackBerry — and the basement server.

Am I reading this portion of the article correctly?
Did he have reason to suspect that her Blackberry was compromised while she was visiting China?

ANytime you visit another country you are being violated electronically these days. You dont bring anything with you that can be compromised period. get a burner phone when you visit another country and NEVER save passwords or use public wi fi.

This I can speak from experience...

In my division, we kept a few older type cell phones that were issued to FBI agents when they had to visit certain foreign countries,,, FBI issued department Blackberrys were specifically prohibited because it was assumed they were compromised as soon as you landed in country.

A SoS using a blackberry would be a sitting duck for exploitation as soon as they set foot in the country. You can bet your paycheck Hillarys Blackberry was compromised... only an idiot would use a smartphone so easily accessed by foreign spy agencies... Oh wait, we are talking Hillary...guess that explains the idiot part easily enough.