How the game is played...

Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by d3v
Anywahy what I mean is that the sheer ammount of UFO and alian encounters is just un-deniable proof that we are not alone.

Where is this un-deniable proof??
I cannot recall ever seeing it

Thats becuase, like you said, you havent seen it.

I dont think must people have too,
if aliens did exist, it would have been a scientists wet dream and it would have been covered on the news.

no. the news is simply a tool for the Illuminati to spread propoganda and lies.

"We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

-John Swinton, New York Times editor, in a speech before the New York Press Club 1953

[edit on 16/1/2005 by d3v]

oh really, what about the free media then? the one propaganda matrix and ATS recommends?? Does the illuminati control ATS News

Well the general question is not weather they exist, rather, do they actually control the world.

this is an endless argument that can neither be proven or disproven, that is to say prove to me that this argument does in fact exist!

Yeah there are a few free media output groups but how they deal with them is they supress the information at its source.

There were black clad special forces following all journalists and reporters in Iraq stopping them from reporting anything too disturbing.

Did u know Bush's cousin owns Fox news?

Originally posted by d3v
Did u know Bush's cousin owns Fox news?

Everyone knows that,
And i didnt have to read "Children of the Matrix" to know that....

Originally posted by d3v

"David icke is a tool to spread dis-information"

i see what your saying but it cannot be true.

The ammount of research and information he gives about current affairs and the NWO says to me that he is a true freedom fighter and not a goverment tool.

In fact, his site has a "Headlines Section" that gets updated everyday with current affairs and stuff.

He spreads wayy too much of that type of information to be called a goverment tool for spreading disinfrmation...

His reptillian theory is pretty solid.

"He who owns a world, creates the reality the people in the world live in"

We are made to believe what the Illuminati want us to believe in and we are made to not-believe what the Illuminati dont want us to believe in.

They control the world, they make our reality with it!

Okay, your points you are making, make sense, but you have obviously not denied ignorance enough. If you go and listen to Myron Fagan's lectures that was recorded in 1963 you will understand where Icke has gotten his information. His claims arent anything new or original, aside from the rediculous reptillian theory. Fagan has been fighting the NWO since the 60's, Alex Jones has been fighting for a little over a decade. You must realize that Icke's theories about the bloodlines, the monetary system, the fed ect... was all discovered long before he brought it up. That is why I believe he is a tool of the NWO, he is using information that is already out there and twisting it with the reptilian theory to draw people away, or to make them see a false side of the truth....

Originally posted by Amuk

You want proof?

It would be VERY easy to prove Ickes theroy.

According to him EVERYONE from Bush to Mick Jagger is a Reptilian. How hard could it be to get DNA evidence from one of them?

I am fairly certian Shapeshifting Alien DNA would be different from ours.

Exactally, that is a great point. These bloodlines run strong according to Icke's theories. Well, lets put it to the test. I was informed a year or 2 ago by my mother, who by her maiden name "Pritzl" is strongly related to the Bush family, after her, 2 of her sisters, their mother and father did a family heritage research. And on my mothers, mothers side of the family we are tied to the Queen of Scottland some odd centuries ago. I can give you proof if you need it, I will just have to get the documentation from my mother and then scan it and post it.

Anyway my point is, I have alot of royal and elite blood in my heritage. And if Icke's claims were in fact real, and me having some of the same blood that runs through Bush's veins, that would me make me a shape-shifter right? HAHA I guess I better be careful, I could come out of my human disguise any moment

Originally posted by d3v
I pack proof of the NWO and the Illuminati onto CD's and give them out free to as many people as I can.

I want one!

Do you have a list of what's on it?

I do the same thing for friends of mine, so maybe we can do some conspiracy trading?

Conspiracy peer to peer - The real "Nutella" network.

thanks.

Originally posted by Illuminous
Anyway my point is, I have alot of royal and elite blood in my heritage. And if Icke's claims were in fact real, and me having some of the same blood that runs through Bush's veins, that would me make me a shape-shifter right? HAHA I guess I better be careful, I could come out of my human disguise any moment

OMG!!
Illuminous is a repitilan
Someone call David Icke! :up!

I never actually said that EVERY member of the 13 bloodlines is a shapeshifting reptillian...

Originally posted by infinite
...Plus Alex Jones backs up his claims and he did proved the whole bohemian grove by gaining access.

The whole Alex and the bohemian grove story is interesting...

www.propagandamatrix.com...

...especially his responce when confronted...how did he know this stuff?

Gods peace to all

dAlen

Originally posted by d3v
I never actually said that EVERY member of the 13 bloodlines is a shapeshifting reptillian...

I can go for the reptillian theory...
Everyone seems to believe in aliens, angels, demons...etc., but when it comes to practicality...them actually being among us, we freak out.
WE can believe in them, but yet we restrict them to our rules and our logic..
...oh they cant rule the world, they would tell us...and who says?

Anyway...definately a few people rule the roost...everyone else is a puppet of the game...(until you wake up...)

Gods peace to all

dAlen

Originally posted by Illuminous

Anyway my point is, I have alot of royal and elite blood in my heritage. And if Icke's claims were in fact real, and me having some of the same blood that runs through Bush's veins, that would me make me a shape-shifter right? HAHA I guess I better be careful, I could come out of my human disguise any moment

you could be...i could too...you wouldnt necessarily know...or need too...
watch how successful you are in your business life, (without using much effort,) that will tell you something...

Gods peace

dAlen

Hey Illuminous

Elaborate on your ties to Illuminati blood plz...

Everyone seems to believe in aliens, angels, demons...etc., but when it comes to practicality...them actually being among us, we freak out. WE can believe in them, but yet we restrict them to our rules and our logic..
...oh they cant rule the world, they would tell us...and who says?

EXACTLY.

And who/what decides our logic is?

The education system... adults around us, TV, "normality", what not to believe in, what to believe in, whats impossible, whats possible, whats true and whats false..... the list is endless.

And its the Illuminati who own all these thigs that decide what reality we live in.

We are brought up in a reality designed to suit the Illuminati.

I'm not suprised people will not believe for one second that reptillian alians secretly rule us...

"He whos owns the world, also creates the reality everyone in it lives in"

[edit on 16/1/2005 by d3v]

This all sounds a little ludacris coming from someone who's seen through the "Great Coverup," but has yet to realize there is a Backspace and you have the option to Proofread before posting.

If you cannot take the time to produce a readable post, then why should we take the time to read it. Considering you are talking important information that could ultimately lead to our total enslavement, I would consider making yourself look a little more credible to get people to beieve what you have to say.

I'm usually not one to flame post, but what I see here is a 13 year old with an "Icke" addiction.

Either way, I do not see a reason to fear, that is, unless we truly are up against Shapeshifting Reptillians.

Consider the amount of people in control, and those who live under their rule. In actuality, they fear us because they could never control such a large number of people. They fear individuality and freedom of thought because their reign would end because We chose for it to. We are the ones in control, despite what they have lead us to believe. All it takes is one choice.

...just making sure everyone got that memo.

On a sidenote. In the event we are up against ShapeShifters, facing impossible odds, what are their goals? Enslavement of mankind? Humans would have little value in death, and if my victory lies in the afterlife, then so be it. They can only take so much from you, and if you have any faith in religion or philosophy, even seemingly being on total control, they are the damned.

If we can believe in shapeshifting reptiles running the world, I don't see how the idea of "Faith" in whatever suits could be so farfetched.

Now that I've completely blown this off-topic, what's next?





[edit on 17-1-2005 by Disciple]

Originally posted by Disciple
This all sounds a little ludacris coming from someone who's seen through the "Great Coverup," but has yet to realize there is a Backspace and you have the option to Proofread before posting.

If you cannot take the time to produce a readable post, then why should we take the time to read it.

... or yet to realize that spellcheck is pretty common too. 

lu·di·crous  

No offense, but boy what a rambling post after that little soapbox intro. I always try to finish my post before lighting up.

edit: typo.oops. I said I try

[edit on 1/17/05 by bunkbuster]

Originally posted by d3v
Hey Illuminous

Elaborate on your ties to Illuminati blood plz...

Well, I was informed I was related to the Bush family when my Mother showed me the Pritzl family website (Pritzl is my mother's, father's last name) you can see it for yourself...

www.pritzl.net... when you go here scroll to the bottom of the page that opens, its in a little box, and it describes the relation, Anton Pritlz from Arnstein, Bavaria is a great-great grandfather of Bush. Ive got the Bavarian connection

I dont know if this is relevant to the subject at hand, but on the same side of the family (Pritzl) one of my distant relatives helped create and design the first Atom bomb that was dropped on Japan... I will try and get more information for you, but Im at work right now and I cant contact my Mother to get more info... if you have more questions send me a message...

[edit on 17-1-2005 by Illuminous]

Illuminous

The whole thing should be easy to find out, instead of vague BS like if you get a good job thats proof

Get a DNA test. If they call NASA then you know you are a shape shifting Lizard-man.

Besides I havent seen you at any of our meetings