It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
The famous register of nobility in Britain, Burkes’ Peerage, records numerous instances of members of the European Rothschild clan marrying each other. For example,it records that Evelina de Rothschild, daughter of Lionel Nathan Baron de Rothschild and Charlotte de Rothschild, married Ferdinand James Anselm Rothschild, who was the son of Anselm Salomon Rothschild and Charlotte Rothschild.485 Salomon Albert Anselm Rothschild was son of Anselm Salomon and Charlotte Rothschild, and married Bettina Caroline de Rothschild, daughter of Mayer Alphonse de Rothschild and Leonora de Rothschild.486
But interestingly enough, in the midst of this consanguineous interbreeding warren, Alphonse Mayer Rothschild and Clarice Sebag-Montefiore had a son, born in 1922, to whom they gave the peculiarly Jewish-Christian-“Babylonian” name of Albert Anselm Salomon Nimrod Rothschild.487 The child died only 16 years later, in 1938.
Of course, one male heir in all of the proliferating Rothschild warren is hardly conclusive, but it is suggestive that the name had some significance for the clan known only to itself. But there is something else that suggests that the allegation must be taken seriously. Among the banking clan’s vast financial network, there is one financial group that raises the eyebrows, and this is the “Rothschild Nemrod Diversified Holdings”group.488 The name “Nemrod” is of course yet another phoneticization of the name “Nimrod,” since the biblical character’s name, in ancient Hebrew, was written without vowels as simply NMRD. It can thus be phoneticized as Nimrod, Nimrud, Nemrod, Nemrud, and so on. The use of the biblical conqueror’s name for a mutual fund investment group thus connotes aggressiveness, risk-taking, and an intention to dominate and conquer (by financial means, of course).
By why the evident obsession of such families— witness the Rothschild dynasty — with marrying distant relatives and members of their own clans and classes? The answer to that question requires a closer look at human DNA, at its own remarkable connections to sacred geometries and the alchemical physics of the medium, and at the family tree of Nimrod himself.740/967
originally posted by: MaxTamesSiva
a reply to: Byrd
Turns out it is spelled "Nemrod", Here's an excerpt from Joseph Farrell's book Babylon Banksters, The Alchemy of Deep Physics, High Finance and Ancient Religion (p.274, THE MYTH OF THE ROTHSCHILD DESCENT FROM NIMROD: A SECOND LOOK)
...
Of course, one male heir in all of the proliferating Rothschild warren is hardly conclusive...
Among the banking clan’s vast financial network, there is one financial group that raises the eyebrows, and this is the “Rothschild Nemrod Diversified Holdings”group.488 The name “Nemrod” is of course yet another phoneticization of the name “Nimrod,” since the biblical character’s name, in ancient Hebrew, was written without vowels as simply NMRD. It can thus be phoneticized as Nimrod, Nimrud, Nemrod, Nemrud, and so on. The use of the biblical conqueror’s name for a mutual fund investment group thus connotes aggressiveness, risk-taking, and an intention to dominate and conquer (by financial means, of course).
The statue, a gift to the United States from the people of France, is of a robed female figure representing Libertas, the Roman goddess of freedom. Who is "Libertas"? She is Semiramis - Babylonian Ishtar (Easter) = Ashtaroth = Whore of Babylon = Aphrodite = Libertas = the Statue of Liberty! Semiramis became known as "Ishtar" which is pronounced "Easter", and her moon egg became known as "Ishtar's" egg."
Statue of Liberty" represents Semiramis, wife of Nimrod and Queen of Babylon, which would be quite a revelation in Christian America and indeed to Christians all round the world because the "Statue of Liberty" is an international symbol and it is not widely known that it has pagan meaning.
originally posted by: MaxTamesSiva
a reply to: Byrd
You are right, Farrell pointed out just 2 minor facts regarding the myth that the Rothschilds are descendants of Nimrod
And speaking of woo, what if The Nimrod Group turns out to be also legit- set up on a free website, working out of a post office box (not a real office) ... registered by an Australian domain name server... Not to mention the efficacious billionaire's website has two glaring spelling errors on their home page, as you and SargonThrall pointed out? What could be a better low profile front for the Rothschilds high roller deals? I look at it as an ultra rich insider's humor.
Maybe most of you already knew this but I'll just throw it out out here:
The Statue of Liberty Holds the Torch of Nimrod?
The statue, a gift to the United States from the people of France, is of a robed female figure representing Libertas, the Roman goddess of freedom. Who is "Libertas"? She is Semiramis - Babylonian Ishtar (Easter) = Ashtaroth = Whore of Babylon = Aphrodite = Libertas = the Statue of Liberty! Semiramis became known as "Ishtar" which is pronounced "Easter", and her moon egg became known as "Ishtar's" egg."
Was Nimrod's wife Semiramis also Nimrod's mother? The men behind the Statute of Liberty are also intriguing to say the least. Can we also trace a Rothschild connection?
Sources:
spreadthetruthblog.com
grahamhancock.com
mystery-babylon.org
biblepaedia.wordpress.com
You might doublecheck Farrell here... which sources talk about Nimrod having children? None of the historical candidates ever established a lineage.
The old "I'm going to have some yahoo set up a fake website and then abandon it" gambit?
You'd think the Rothschilds with all their money and advisors and contacts could do something a little less lame like... a "I'm staying low profile so I'm not on the Internet and not in the phonebook" gambit. Or the "I have a DBA (doing business as license that allows you to use a different name) and I'm setting up deals there as Hornswatter Mumpletop or something? Or the standard, "don't talk to me.. talk to my lawyer/business manager?"
...and people buy books full of this stuff. I think we need a better class of woo.
originally posted by: kef33890
a reply to: Byrd
Well I can easily understand the confusion, but let me try to clear it up. The Semeramis of 700 bc was actually named after the real Simeramis of around 2200 bc. An adjusted time frame also places Enmerkar/Kulla/Balih around that same time (2200 b.c.) The King Ninus in Greek/Assyrian history is the same as said king (in my opinion).
To sum it up. There's no reason why historic queen Sammuramat couldn't of been named after a much older queen? I think if people understood the proposed adjusted timeline and chronology of things, the story wouldn't sound so crazy and we wouldn't have 700 year old Queens marrying their sons and such.
Also I don't think Semeramis was Nimrods mother...
originally posted by: MaxTamesSiva
a reply to: Byrd
I found Nimrud, the location not the king.
1. Farrell estimates that only 5 to 10% of all the ancient Sumerian texts that were translated are available to academic researchers and to some extent, the general public.
2. The Germans has an extensive catalogue of all if not most of the Sumerian artifacts collected, particularly the ancient Sumerian texts and for some reason, it's not available to researchers and the general public. Here's a site that I found
3. The French has a considerable collection of the ancient Sumerian texts that they only keep for themselves.
4. This has a bit of woo factor in it, but here goes- There could be tens of thousands of ancient Sumerian artifacts looted at the Baghdad Museum when the US invaded Iraq, where is it now, particularly the ancient texts at Baghdad's collection?
So what are the implications of what Farrell pointed out even if we disregard the accuracy of it? Have all the ancient Sumerian tablets been translated?
Are they all available to academic researchers or not all?
How much of it is available to the general public on-line?
Will we get far with English-centric research?
originally posted by: Marduk
I don't think anyone is really interested here, you are looking for a Biblical character in an ancient history forum
You should have just posted this in a religion forum
originally posted by: kef33890
... Plus, Diodorus, Ctesias, and many others had nothing to gain from lying, completely unlike todays scholars. People like to look like they know what they're talking about... Not to mention the ego's of "scholars" these days. Not to name anyone here lol.
originally posted by: kef33890
a reply to: Byrd
Thank you, Byrd! I guess I was a little too harsh. But you are one of the more reasonable well-educated users here. At least you are willing to read my 'fringe ideas' (I'm assuming you at least skimmed through it), unlike some people who automatically discard it as being a waste of time, thus making a joke of the ordeal.
But you are correct. I studied the wrong subject in college. My general business degree has done nothing for me!
One of my pipe dreams is to someday be digging around in the sands of Mesopotamia. I don't think adequate field research has been done in the sands. Iraq has been so unstable for the past 80 years unlike, say, Egypt which has been scoured for the past two centuries.
I would love to dig up old Nineveh, and Kalhu. Also Uruk and Ashur! I can tell you each day, Mesopotamian history is being obliterated by those scumbags. Those animals aren't worthy of being named, but they bulldozed ancient Kalhu (what has been excavated anyway). It almost needs to stay buried till the region stabilizes