Jesus offers bread

I always have a scientific approach to anything, for me its something that is very important..
You have people, that are still very scientifically illiterate in the western world..
The bible had stories about survival, it had stories that explained how to survive..
The iconic and symbolic references were extremely important..

Three creeds rose from the very simple message of how a society can thrive, the Athanasian ( Aryanism or even Lutheran) , the apostle and the Nicene.. One of these held a scientific approach and was hunted down killed and hanged, they never offered a solution to the main problem of feeding many, but they offered a explanation..

All humans are born with sin, the reference is that in your brain there is something called a reptilian cortex, it has a sprout and an eye, it even looks like a shrimp.. The research on this topic is extensive, there are thousands of papers on this very subject explaining in areas as sociology and anthropology.. The sin is called evolution of when we were evolved from simple creatures, a system made to thrive in a hostile environment..



The main aspect of survival is food, one institution offered this, and quoted it in the bible for people that place their fate within a institution that can feed them..

In the Lord's Prayer, the first petition is for daily bread. No one can worship God or love his neighbor on an empty stomach

Human on a empty stomach will turn into something which can be called a monster.. The Institutions of the equator learned about how to build a neolithic society with a simple farmers calendar called the southern cross..

Then Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain and said, “This is what you are to say to the descendants of Jacob and what you are to tell the people of Israel

Moses is based on a character that lived thousands of years ago, a warlord called Sargon.. He and the sumerian culture built the first "western" world observatory in Babylon..
You can use the same star constellation or even use the same for having a working farmers almanac..

Similarities between the Neo-Assyrian Sargon Birth Legend and other infant birth exposures in ancient literature, including Moses, Karna, and Oedipus, were noted by Otto Rank in 1909. The legend was also studied in detail by Brian Lewis, and compared with a number of different examples of the infant birth exposure motif found in European and Asian folk tales. He discusses a possible archetype form, giving particular attention to the Sargon legend and the account of the birth of Moses.Joseph Campbell has also made such comparisons.

The bible in its format called the New Testament offers people a gift if they follow Christ.. The old testament offered the practice and the solution..

Urm did you say that we were created with Lizard brains?
Actually could you simplify and sum up your post because I don't get the point you are making. thanks.a reply to: AldarKose

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Yes

This is you without food

a reply to: AldarKose

The reptilian brain is believed to be the source of aggression. I could sware my Dr. told me that the reptilian brain and the pineal gland are the same thing. Did I hear her wrong? Because their is no way a psychiatrist would get that wrong.

a reply to: Heresiarch

Correct, impulses..

a reply to: AldarKose

Then if the pineal gland is the same thing as the reptilian brain, it is shaped like a pine cone. Where do you get shrimp?

originally posted by: AldarKose
I always have a scientific approach to anything, for me its something that is very important..
You have people, that are still very scientifically illiterate in the western world..
The bible had stories about survival, it had stories that explained how to survive..
The iconic and symbolic references were extremely important..

Three creeds rose from the very simple message of how a society can thrive, the Athanasian ( Aryanism or even Lutheran) , the apostle and the Nicene.. One of these held a scientific approach and was hunted down killed and hanged, they never offered a solution to the main problem of feeding many, but they offered a explanation..

All humans are born with sin, the reference is that in your brain there is something called a reptilian cortex, it has a sprout and an eye, it even looks like a shrimp.. The research on this topic is extensive, there are thousands of papers on this very subject explaining in areas as sociology and anthropology.. The sin is called evolution of when we were evolved from simple creatures, a system made to thrive in a hostile environment..

The main aspect of survival is food, one institution offered this, and quoted it in the bible for people that place their fate within a institution that can feed them..

In the Lord's Prayer, the first petition is for daily bread. No one can worship God or love his neighbor on an empty stomach

Human on a empty stomach will turn into something which can be called a monster.. The Institutions of the equator learned about how to build a neolithic society with a simple farmers calendar called the southern cross..

Then Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain and said, “This is what you are to say to the descendants of Jacob and what you are to tell the people of Israel

Moses is based on a character that lived thousands of years ago, a warlord called Sargon.. He and the sumerian culture built the first "western" world observatory in Babylon..
You can use the same star constellation or even use the same for having a working farmers almanac..

Similarities between the Neo-Assyrian Sargon Birth Legend and other infant birth exposures in ancient literature, including Moses, Karna, and Oedipus, were noted by Otto Rank in 1909. The legend was also studied in detail by Brian Lewis, and compared with a number of different examples of the infant birth exposure motif found in European and Asian folk tales. He discusses a possible archetype form, giving particular attention to the Sargon legend and the account of the birth of Moses.Joseph Campbell has also made such comparisons.

The bible in its format called the New Testament offers people a gift if they follow Christ.. The old testament offered the practice and the solution..

Christianity developed the notion of original sin. But having said that, instead sin, use behavior. Because evil is a product of human behavior, not a principal inherent in the cosmos. It is the power of moral choice alone, that is Yahweh like and having that good and bad knowledge is no guarantee that one will choose or incline towards the good. The very action that brought Adam and Eve a Yahweh like awareness of their mortal autonomy, was an action that was taken in opposition to Yahweh.

Yahweh knows that, that human beings will become like Yahweh, knowing good and bad; it’s one of the things about Yahweh, he knows good and bad, and has chosen the good. Human beings, and only human beings are the potential source of evil, responsibility for evil will lie in the hands of human beings. Evil is represented not as a physical reality, it’s not built into the structure of Eden, evil is a condition of human existence, and to assert that evil stems from human behavior.

The Lords prayer, Jesus was preparing people for the seven year tribulation Israel must serve under penalty of the law contract (mountain moving faith). But having said that, faith could be a survival for what you are showing. Cool thread.

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You say Yahweh like that imposter demon is really God. Even in ancient times he was not believed by the Israelites as Most High God. That is shown in Deuteronomy where Yahweh is a Son of El who receives Israel as an inheritance and is not the Most High El Elyon.

El is God Most High, Yahweh is god of Israel. You need to get a better translation than the NIV or KJV or drop whatever it is that has caused this fact to escape you.

Not being a * just telling you what I have learned and personally know to be a fact.

originally posted by: Heresiarch
a reply to: newnature1

You say Yahweh like that imposter demon is really God. Even in ancient times he was not believed by the Israelites as Most High God. That is shown in Deuteronomy where Yahweh is a Son of El who receives Israel as an inheritance and is not the Most High El Elyon.

El is God Most High, Yahweh is god of Israel. You need to get a better translation than the NIV or KJV or drop whatever it is that has caused this fact to escape you.

Not being a * just telling you what I have learned and personally know to be a fact.

I know Yahweh was not identified with nature, Yahweh transcended nature; and Yahweh wasn’t known through nature or natural phenomena. Yahweh was known through history, events and a particular relationship with a man, which Yahweh formed from the dust of the earth. It is from this point of view I know Yahweh, but understand who El is too.

Could being created in the image of El have something to do with the topic of this thread? Being created in the image of God means that we must view ourselves as intrinsically valuable and richly invested with meaning, potentially and responsibilities. We are to be and to do on a finite scale, what God is and does on an infinite scale.

By virtue of being created in the image of God, human beings are capable of reflecting his character in their own life; animals possess none of these qualities. What distinguishes people from animals is the fact that human nature inherently has godlike possibilities.

Omniscience, omnipotence, or omnipresence, none of these other divine attributes have been ascribed to the human race as part of the image of God. We have been created to reflect God in our thinking and actions, but the physical sustained by God and dependent upon him for our existence in this world and in the world to come. Developing a godly character in this present life, this will be our personal identity in the world to come. It is the character or personality that we have developed in this life, that God preserves in his memory.

a reply to: Heresiarch

I cant find a duable image of what it looks like, the pineal gland is a thing that is big as a rice corn, the components are the same as an eye, it has an iris also.. But its just a small thing on the reptilian cortex, the pineal is like the eye for the reptilian cortex within our brain..

It does look like a pinecone if you stretch it, but i wouldnt reference it to a symbolic religious gesture, since most human adaptations is mimic of nature..And through my studies i found a reference that pinecone and the tree offered a survival kit, link and that one seed sprouted to many..

You could make it into a really great story about an alien inside our brain controlling us...

a reply to: newnature1

Because evil is a product of human behavior, not a principal inherent in the cosmos.

Humans are not evil nor good, humans are primates from the animal kingdom.. Evil and Good is a reference to Gods creation in society, morals, dogmas and values.. These set of rules are used in less evolved societies..

There is a certain genome, called the I1 haplogroup, in northern europe ( scandinavia )link
It maybe could reference to how the behavior or stereotypes are, maybe we are less willing to interact cause, well, its genetic trademarks..

In my book religion offers the foundation of any society many would disagree, but it gave us everything we have today..
If i place an atheist alone in the woods, he would never survive..

originally posted by: AldarKose
a reply to: newnature1

Because evil is a product of human behavior, not a principal inherent in the cosmos.

Humans are not evil nor good, humans are primates from the animal kingdom.. Evil and Good is a reference to Gods creation in society, morals, dogmas and values.. These set of rules are used in less evolved societies..

There is a certain genome, called the I1 haplogroup, in northern europe ( scandinavia )link
It maybe could reference to how the behavior or stereotypes are, maybe we are less willing to interact cause, well, its genetic trademarks..

In my book religion offers the foundation of any society many would disagree, but it gave us everything we have today..
If i place an atheist alone in the woods, he would never survive..

Sounds like a cool book, but the cave people during The fifth ‘a day’ in Genesis, that fifth ‘a day’ took around four and half billion years. Look at the cave people, God did not create them in his image. Being created in the image of God means that we must view ourselves as intrinsically valuable and richly invested with meaning, potentially and responsibilities. We are to be and to do on a finite scale, what God is and does on an infinite scale.

By virtue of being created in the image of God, human beings are capable of reflecting his character in their own life; animals possess none of these qualities. What distinguishes people from animals is the fact that human nature inherently has godlike possibilities.

Omniscience, omnipotence, or omnipresence, none of these other divine attributes have been ascribed to the human race as part of the image of God. We have been created to reflect God in our thinking and actions, but the physical sustained by God and dependent upon him for our existence in this world and in the world to come. Developing a godly character in this present life, this will be our personal identity in the world to come. It is the character or personality that we have developed in this life, that God preserves in his memory.

So these cave people, they would have to have everything we have, www.youtube.com...

These cave people would not have had a God conscious, like God has given to the human race a God consciousness, the conscious perception that we could say that there is a God somewhere and that ultimately the human race is accountable to that God. These cave people would have been smart, knowing how to make a living. But that DNA? Just some thoughts.

a reply to: newnature1

If i think "Intelligent design" by a maker, is better than evolution, no i think its an atrocity.. But thats me, problem is when the intelligent design wanders off into the realm of evolution and becomes parasitic by nature..
If society cant feed its population it cant just wander off into nature and start pillaging. The nature is fragile, its evolution over a course of 4,5 billion years.. Humans in the image of God, 6000 years..

You dont see any of the northern kingdoms rely on Gods mercy and breed like rabbits, it was a solution for nomadic tribes close to the equator.. Even ancient Indians relied on honey and milk for survival..

originally posted by: newnature1

originally posted by: Heresiarch
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You say Yahweh like that imposter demon is really God. Even in ancient times he was not believed by the Israelites as Most High God. That is shown in Deuteronomy where Yahweh is a Son of El who receives Israel as an inheritance and is not the Most High El Elyon.

El is God Most High, Yahweh is god of Israel. You need to get a better translation than the NIV or KJV or drop whatever it is that has caused this fact to escape you.

Not being a * just telling you what I have learned and personally know to be a fact.

I know Yahweh was not identified with nature, Yahweh transcended nature; and Yahweh wasn’t known through nature or natural phenomena. Yahweh was known through history, events and a particular relationship with a man, which Yahweh formed from the dust of the earth. It is from this point of view I know Yahweh, but understand who El is too.

Could being created in the image of El have something to do with the topic of this thread? Being created in the image of God means that we must view ourselves as intrinsically valuable and richly invested with meaning, potentially and responsibilities. We are to be and to do on a finite scale, what God is and does on an infinite scale.

By virtue of being created in the image of God, human beings are capable of reflecting his character in their own life; animals possess none of these qualities. What distinguishes people from animals is the fact that human nature inherently has godlike possibilities.

Omniscience, omnipotence, or omnipresence, none of these other divine attributes have been ascribed to the human race as part of the image of God. We have been created to reflect God in our thinking and actions, but the physical sustained by God and dependent upon him for our existence in this world and in the world to come. Developing a godly character in this present life, this will be our personal identity in the world to come. It is the character or personality that we have developed in this life, that God preserves in his memory.

I personally find it humorous that you actually believe the lie yo just spouted. Is it true that "Jesus" spoke the words of the OT verbatim? Ok, sure, but the guy also equated Yahweh w ith his own enemy, saying that It was father of all lies for there is no truth in him, direct quote from the time he squared off with the Pharisees. It truly does not matter if the guy was real or fake, the point is that most priests (in whatever religion) these days STILL talk like that, all arrogant and self-absorbed. They think they have the only fountain to knowledge and that's that. A bunch of a-holes is what they are.

originally posted by: MetatronTheAeon

originally posted by: newnature1

originally posted by: Heresiarch
a reply to: newnature1

You say Yahweh like that imposter demon is really God. Even in ancient times he was not believed by the Israelites as Most High God. That is shown in Deuteronomy where Yahweh is a Son of El who receives Israel as an inheritance and is not the Most High El Elyon.

El is God Most High, Yahweh is god of Israel. You need to get a better translation than the NIV or KJV or drop whatever it is that has caused this fact to escape you.

Not being a * just telling you what I have learned and personally know to be a fact.

I know Yahweh was not identified with nature, Yahweh transcended nature; and Yahweh wasn’t known through nature or natural phenomena. Yahweh was known through history, events and a particular relationship with a man, which Yahweh formed from the dust of the earth. It is from this point of view I know Yahweh, but understand who El is too.

Could being created in the image of El have something to do with the topic of this thread? Being created in the image of God means that we must view ourselves as intrinsically valuable and richly invested with meaning, potentially and responsibilities. We are to be and to do on a finite scale, what God is and does on an infinite scale.

By virtue of being created in the image of God, human beings are capable of reflecting his character in their own life; animals possess none of these qualities. What distinguishes people from animals is the fact that human nature inherently has godlike possibilities.

Omniscience, omnipotence, or omnipresence, none of these other divine attributes have been ascribed to the human race as part of the image of God. We have been created to reflect God in our thinking and actions, but the physical sustained by God and dependent upon him for our existence in this world and in the world to come. Developing a godly character in this present life, this will be our personal identity in the world to come. It is the character or personality that we have developed in this life, that God preserves in his memory.

I personally find it humorous that you actually believe the lie yo just spouted. Is it true that "Jesus" spoke the words of the OT verbatim? Ok, sure, but the guy also equated Yahweh w ith his own enemy, saying that It was father of all lies for there is no truth in him, direct quote from the time he squared off with the Pharisees. It truly does not matter if the guy was real or fake, the point is that most priests (in whatever religion) these days STILL talk like that, all arrogant and self-absorbed. They think they have the only fountain to knowledge and that's that. A bunch of a-holes is what they are.

So true, they are arrogant and all that. I took out something that makes no since, some kind of superiority teaching that seems to be added to Hebrews?

Hebrews 1:1-3:15;
From of old, Yahweh spoke to the Israelites fathers by the prophets in every manner, and in all ways; but in these later days, Yahweh has conversed with us, by his son; whom Yahweh has constituted heir of all things, and when Yeshua made a purgation of sins, then Yeshua sat down on the right hand of Yahweh. Wherefore, my brethren, who are called with a calling that is from heaven, consider this high priest of our profession, Yeshua the Messiah; because Yahweh has said, “O, if you would but heed my charge this day; do not be stubborn as at Meribah, in the wilderness, when your fathers put me to the test, tried me, though they had seen my deeds. Forty years I was provoked by that generation; I thought, they are a senseless people; they would not know my ways. Concerning them, I swore in anger, they shall never come to my resting-place!” Beware, therefore, my brethren, lest there be in any of us an evil heart that believes not, and we depart from the living Yahweh; but we need to examine ourselves all the days, during the day which is called today; and let none of us be hardened, through the deceitfulness of sin; for we have part with the Messiah, if we persevere in this firm confidence, from the beginning to the end; as it was said, “O, if you would but heed my charge this day.” Do not harden your hearts to anger Yahweh.

Hebrews 1:4-2:18; 3:2-6 is what was left out? If one was to put that crap back in, here is there religion.

a reply to: newnature1

Hebrews is written by Paul/Saul the Apostolic reject not recognized by Christ himself EVEN in the book of Revelation. You would think a book of that title would confirm his dubious claims. It doesn't. Consider the source you are quoting.

originally posted by: Heresiarch
a reply to: newnature1

Hebrews is written by Paul/Saul the Apostolic reject not recognized by Christ himself EVEN in the book of Revelation. You would think a book of that title would confirm his dubious claims. It doesn't. Consider the source you are quoting.

Paul didn't write Hebrews. Why would he, it's not for the age of Grace.

a reply to: newnature1

Whoever actually wrote it, it is his name that gets the credit.

originally posted by: Heresiarch
a reply to: newnature1

Whoever actually wrote it, it is his name that gets the credit.

But we are the saints of a brand new program. While Israel walked by sight, we walk not by sight, but by faith. The focus today is no longer on the outward, but on the inward. God is not giving us those visual manifestations, we have a new apostle through whom we have been given God’s completed instruction. Why would Paul write something that as place in the age of grace?

a reply to: newnature1

What people like you who HATE God's Law don't realize is that you have been decieved into accepting a false gospel.

Faith without works is DEAD, it is not enough to just have faith, according to Jesus and James, who both SHOULD be believed before the liar Paul.

I usually don't even respond to people who are too blind in their hatred of the Law of God to realize this deception but you seem to have at least a thirst for knowledge, I suggest you look into it. Google Dead SeaScrolls deception. Read it.